reliabilitys of a 348
Discussion
Reading some of the posts its infered that modernday ferraris are reliable but only really from the 355 onwards, now curretly if i did leave TVR land it would be for a 348 as thats as far as the budget would stretch
( we are still talking blackburn house prices though !!!!)
has anyone tried running one of these for say 10k a year can they cope. i dont have a regular comute but i do endup spending time in traffic every now and then...
comments ?
( we are still talking blackburn house prices though !!!!)
has anyone tried running one of these for say 10k a year can they cope. i dont have a regular comute but i do endup spending time in traffic every now and then...
comments ?
Hi, I assume you mean 10k miles and not £10k. I would think your running costs will be quite high if you do 10,000 mile per year in a 348. I owned a 348 TB for 3 years, averaging 5,000 miles per year which cost approx 3K per year for servicing inc. tyres. You should be able to do this mileage reliably in a Ferrari, although high milage cars do depreciate like a rock!!
There are lots of 348's out there so look at plenty before you buy. Full service history IS essential.
Good luck
G.
There are lots of 348's out there so look at plenty before you buy. Full service history IS essential.
Good luck
G.
I own a late 1994 348 Spider. It took me one full year to read up and study which of the 348's were best to buy.
The 348's between 1989/ early 1992 had.
TS and TB models
Black front, rear, side skirts
Black horse badges
300 Bhp
Bosch 2.5 Montronic System
Battrey in engine bay, short track
The 348's in early 1992/ early 1993 were updated.
Chrome horse badges still badged as TS and TB
Red Colour coded front, rear, side skirts
Battery moved to front wheel arch
The 348's in late 1993 / late 1994 were updated again.
Re-badged as GTS and GTB
320 BHP, larger air plenum chamber
Wide Track rear end with bigger anti-roll bars and new suspension set up.
Engine slightly lowered for better stability & handling.
Upgraded Bosch 2.7 Montonic system installed
Battery still in front wheel arch
Still colour coded rear, front side skirts.
Still chrome horse badges.
The centre front grill was updated. had a black trim around the edge.
Some Background Information on F348 Series.
F348 Series ...............................
The F348 Ferrari Spyder was launched in late 1993, running alongside the evolutionised F348 GTB/GTS. It was the first two-seater spyder sportscar made by Ferrari since the 365 GTB/4 (Daytona) Spyder last sold in 1974. It was the first mid-engine two seater Spyder produced by Ferrari.
There have been many engineering developments and design refinements to F348 series that have improved its Performance, Handling and Comfort.
In addition to the modifications to the body configuration of the F348 Spyder, there had been significant technical changes that enhanced the performance and road stability.
Engineering developments included a transverse gearbox with revised ratios for quicker acceleration and a free flowing exhaust system for higher power output. The wider rear track with an improved suspension system assured better handling and manoeuvrability.
In 1994, the evolutionised F348 GTB/GTS cease production with the all new F355 GTB/GTS. The F348 Ferrari Spyder’s were still produced alongside the F355 series.
The late F348 Ferrari Spyder’s were further evolutionised by introducing the F355 characteristics onto the F348 Spyder’s as a development platform for the all new F355 Spyder that was to be released in 1995, when the F348 Spyder cease production.
This information was supplied to me from Italy at Ferrari. I live in the UK and have family in Italy, my wifes side.
Please note that prices for left hand F355 are coming down and are nearly same price as a good, late spyder.
Remeber the 348 Spyder is the best of them all, the last to be built and run longside the F335 TB and TS.
Regarding the single and double plate clutches, I have been told and read that Ferrari installed single and double clutches at random. Thats what I have been told.
Remeber a Ferrari must be driven several times a week. I use mine all season, except in salty road conditions. You must get a Ferrari with full service history.
I bought my Left Hand drive 348 for £32,000 sterling pounds a year ago and I have just been offered by a main dealer £39,500 sterling pounds the reason being is that the spyders are worth more on the market and not many of them about.
I hope this information helps.
Regards,
Justin
The 348's between 1989/ early 1992 had.
TS and TB models
Black front, rear, side skirts
Black horse badges
300 Bhp
Bosch 2.5 Montronic System
Battrey in engine bay, short track
The 348's in early 1992/ early 1993 were updated.
Chrome horse badges still badged as TS and TB
Red Colour coded front, rear, side skirts
Battery moved to front wheel arch
The 348's in late 1993 / late 1994 were updated again.
Re-badged as GTS and GTB
320 BHP, larger air plenum chamber
Wide Track rear end with bigger anti-roll bars and new suspension set up.
Engine slightly lowered for better stability & handling.
Upgraded Bosch 2.7 Montonic system installed
Battery still in front wheel arch
Still colour coded rear, front side skirts.
Still chrome horse badges.
The centre front grill was updated. had a black trim around the edge.
Some Background Information on F348 Series.
F348 Series ...............................
The F348 Ferrari Spyder was launched in late 1993, running alongside the evolutionised F348 GTB/GTS. It was the first two-seater spyder sportscar made by Ferrari since the 365 GTB/4 (Daytona) Spyder last sold in 1974. It was the first mid-engine two seater Spyder produced by Ferrari.
There have been many engineering developments and design refinements to F348 series that have improved its Performance, Handling and Comfort.
In addition to the modifications to the body configuration of the F348 Spyder, there had been significant technical changes that enhanced the performance and road stability.
Engineering developments included a transverse gearbox with revised ratios for quicker acceleration and a free flowing exhaust system for higher power output. The wider rear track with an improved suspension system assured better handling and manoeuvrability.
In 1994, the evolutionised F348 GTB/GTS cease production with the all new F355 GTB/GTS. The F348 Ferrari Spyder’s were still produced alongside the F355 series.
The late F348 Ferrari Spyder’s were further evolutionised by introducing the F355 characteristics onto the F348 Spyder’s as a development platform for the all new F355 Spyder that was to be released in 1995, when the F348 Spyder cease production.
This information was supplied to me from Italy at Ferrari. I live in the UK and have family in Italy, my wifes side.
Please note that prices for left hand F355 are coming down and are nearly same price as a good, late spyder.
Remeber the 348 Spyder is the best of them all, the last to be built and run longside the F335 TB and TS.
Regarding the single and double plate clutches, I have been told and read that Ferrari installed single and double clutches at random. Thats what I have been told.
Remeber a Ferrari must be driven several times a week. I use mine all season, except in salty road conditions. You must get a Ferrari with full service history.
I bought my Left Hand drive 348 for £32,000 sterling pounds a year ago and I have just been offered by a main dealer £39,500 sterling pounds the reason being is that the spyders are worth more on the market and not many of them about.
I hope this information helps.
Regards,
Justin
Craig,
I use mine as mush as I can. It try and not use it in heavy rain or when the roads have been salted. I think the more you drive the 348 the less problems you have.
I have owned my just over a year with no problems at all.
I did have a 348 GTS but only for one hour after I picked it up. I ran into the back of a Ford focus at 30 mph on the M11 motorway and its was a right off. I hit the accelerator with the brake, I have sive 14 shoes.
It would have cost 25,000 pounds to repair the car by Maranello. The front end was crushed. From the front doors to rear of the car was perfect. The worst day of my life. I had been saving since I was 17 for the money for my first Ferrari.
In one hour it went from the best day of my life to the worst day of my life. The car was sold at salvage for 19,000 pounds. I believe someone has repaired it and its on the road again. L227FEL was the registration.
I got paid out and bought the Spyder.
I use mine as mush as I can. It try and not use it in heavy rain or when the roads have been salted. I think the more you drive the 348 the less problems you have.
I have owned my just over a year with no problems at all.
I did have a 348 GTS but only for one hour after I picked it up. I ran into the back of a Ford focus at 30 mph on the M11 motorway and its was a right off. I hit the accelerator with the brake, I have sive 14 shoes.
It would have cost 25,000 pounds to repair the car by Maranello. The front end was crushed. From the front doors to rear of the car was perfect. The worst day of my life. I had been saving since I was 17 for the money for my first Ferrari.
In one hour it went from the best day of my life to the worst day of my life. The car was sold at salvage for 19,000 pounds. I believe someone has repaired it and its on the road again. L227FEL was the registration.
I got paid out and bought the Spyder.
kenyon said: Craig,
I use mine as mush as I can. It try and not use it in heavy rain or when the roads have been salted. I think the more you drive the 348 the less problems you have.
I have owned my just over a year with no problems at all.
I did have a 348 GTS but only for one hour after I picked it up. I ran into the back of a Ford focus at 30 mph on the M11 motorway and its was a right off. I hit the accelerator with the brake, I have sive 14 shoes.
It would have cost 25,000 pounds to repair the car by Maranello. The front end was crushed. From the front doors to rear of the car was perfect. The worst day of my life. I had been saving since I was 17 for the money for my first Ferrari.
In one hour it went from the best day of my life to the worst day of my life. The car was sold at salvage for 19,000 pounds. I believe someone has repaired it and its on the road again. L227FEL was the registration.
I got paid out and bought the Spyder.
Sounded like a moment to exercise your restrained British humour and just mutter the word 'Arse'
>> Edited by pwig on Friday 13th December 12:43
prancing said: Hi, I assume you mean 10k miles and not £10k. I would think your running costs will be quite high if you do 10,000 mile per year in a 348. I owned a 348 TB for 3 years, averaging 5,000 miles per year which cost approx 3K per year for servicing inc. tyres. You should be able to do this mileage reliably in a Ferrari, although high milage cars do depreciate like a rock!!
There are lots of 348's out there so look at plenty before you buy. Full service history IS essential.
Good luck
G.
Tell me was this £3k a year main dealer servicing? I am flirting with the idea of a 348 and my local specialist insists you can quite comfortably run one for £1,000 a year doing 5k miles....
Is buying a lhd one a real risk? and if so how badly does it effect the insurance?
Sorry Chaps but 3K a year was a specialist service cost. Main Dealer would have been twice as expensive. My serious advice is don't plan owning a Ferrari on a small budget. I was told this and I cried in my beer a few times. Remember any "engine out" jobs will cost £2000 before they start to repair the fault..But I still enjoyed the 348. I now own a 456 GT a Serious money eater, but hey, My coffin won't need pockets..
Bury me in the Ferrari.
Cheers
G.
Bury me in the Ferrari. Cheers
G.
Guys,
I bought my 348 Spider from a Film company (the car is to be shown in the BBC crime drama In Deep out in Jan 03, the germany plate is DFE348)with a full service and cambelt done at Telecrest. The bill came to £2500. Since then the car has done 10,000 km. I have had a small service done since then and its cost me £200.00 at a specialist for intermediate service as per the service schedule. I do buy my own parts for the car and just pay for the labour. At the same garage I can have the cambelt changed for £550.00 all in. Why pay dealer prices when a specialist can do the work and enjoy doing the work. At most main dealers they are not really interested in LHD or older Ferraris. I beleive if you can find someone that wants to work on the Ferrari and are a competent mechnanic and have the Ferrari workshop and parts manual anyone can do a service on the car.
Many owners I have spoken to have bad experiences at main dealers and all use mechnanics they know. I say the best way to be. When you sell the car the buyer will be happy if you can produce a full service history with invoices. So in 10,000 km that I have done its cost me £200.00. The blooy fuel to run the car cost more.. This is my first Ferrari but I always have had Italian cars and I know you do need a good, trustworthly mechanic that is competent.. Also if you buy a LHD drive you can always sell it in Europe and the buyer buying it from europe will not really care where its been serviced as long the car has a fully stamped and documented service history. The best country in europe to buy a LHD is in Germnay. The germany authorities check and regrister every accident. No like in the UK.
Justin
I bought my 348 Spider from a Film company (the car is to be shown in the BBC crime drama In Deep out in Jan 03, the germany plate is DFE348)with a full service and cambelt done at Telecrest. The bill came to £2500. Since then the car has done 10,000 km. I have had a small service done since then and its cost me £200.00 at a specialist for intermediate service as per the service schedule. I do buy my own parts for the car and just pay for the labour. At the same garage I can have the cambelt changed for £550.00 all in. Why pay dealer prices when a specialist can do the work and enjoy doing the work. At most main dealers they are not really interested in LHD or older Ferraris. I beleive if you can find someone that wants to work on the Ferrari and are a competent mechnanic and have the Ferrari workshop and parts manual anyone can do a service on the car.
Many owners I have spoken to have bad experiences at main dealers and all use mechnanics they know. I say the best way to be. When you sell the car the buyer will be happy if you can produce a full service history with invoices. So in 10,000 km that I have done its cost me £200.00. The blooy fuel to run the car cost more.. This is my first Ferrari but I always have had Italian cars and I know you do need a good, trustworthly mechanic that is competent.. Also if you buy a LHD drive you can always sell it in Europe and the buyer buying it from europe will not really care where its been serviced as long the car has a fully stamped and documented service history. The best country in europe to buy a LHD is in Germnay. The germany authorities check and regrister every accident. No like in the UK.
Justin
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