Gallardo: so this is what it's like.

Gallardo: so this is what it's like.

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dinkel

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26,960 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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This tale confirms why I like the Gall.

"It tends to bludgeon everything in its path with all the subtlety of a charging bull in a terracotta sales emporium. No prancing involved. The badge is well justified!"

crikeymikey

1,093 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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You're welcome.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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Mike

Have you really had no other costs apart from servicing and rear tires? Seems incrediby reasonable for such a supercar!

You obviusly love the E-gear... have you driven a manual as a comparison?

Am seriously thinking of getting one of these beasties when my house sells and stories like yours, 8500 miles with no issues, just make it seem all the more "sensible" to do it!!

cummingsa

730 posts

252 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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Thats basically an edited version of the article Mike wrote for LCUK magazine. Love the article and he even left the lovely pic of my car in as well, nice one Mike.

I've done just over 7,000 miles in my Gallardo and aside of having the clutch replaced (under warranty) and the air con packing up twice (both times the week before Le-Mans!!) it has ran faultlessly.

i'm still on my original rear tyres at 10,200 miles as well, but they will have to be replaced shortly.

In short don't think about buying one just do. Just make sure its a manual though... that should start another heated debate!!!!

Andy.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

244 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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cummingsa said:
Thats basically an edited version of the article Mike wrote for LCUK magazine.

He won't get off so lightly next time though!

Indeed it is a cracking article.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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Thanks Andy. Manual is my preference but was making sure the relaibility was not an E-Gear thing. I'm a H&T man so manual blipping for me!!!

Am I right that unless you buy private (which would scare the bejesus out of me!) the only dealers are either Lambo London or Manchester or are their others as well??

I'm in Poole in Dorset so keen to understand the "Best" dealer for me to visit when the time comes. I'd prefer to travel far to go to someone with a great reputation rather then go local with a dealer no one has experience of.

I cannot believe I am contemplating this!! Last year was supposed to get an Aston Vantage but pulled order due to house move. Then a month or so back I decided that buying big house for just me and dog was not the best move so decide to sell and get a Cayman. And now as I get closer to selling this!!! I must be going through my mid life crisis... I suppose being newly single and 43 might have something to do with it

cummingsa

730 posts

252 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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garyhun said:
Thanks Andy. Manual is my preference but was making sure the relaibility was not an E-Gear thing. I'm a H&T man so manual blipping for me!!!

Am I right that unless you buy private (which would scare the bejesus out of me!) the only dealers are either Lambo London or Manchester or are their others as well??

I'm in Poole in Dorset so keen to understand the "Best" dealer for me to visit when the time comes. I'd prefer to travel far to go to someone with a great reputation rather then go local with a dealer no one has experience of.

I cannot believe I am contemplating this!! Last year was supposed to get an Aston Vantage but pulled order due to house move. Then a month or so back I decided that buying big house for just me and dog was not the best move so decide to sell and get a Cayman. And now as I get closer to selling this!!! I must be going through my mid life crisis... I suppose being newly single and 43 might have something to do with it


Gary,

Manual is definately the way to go IMO (that should get me slated by all the flappy paddle lovers!!). The Gallardo for me has the best peddle set up for H&T that i've ever owned. There are now four official dealers (London,Manchester, Birmingham and Edinborough).Lambo Wyecombe is also an authorised service agent. There are alot of good independants about as well. i bought mine from Top555 as it was the best car at the time for the right money.

I would not be particularly put off by buying private as long as you do the usual inspection and HPI thing. As these cars are rare in the UK most are going to be known by one of the Lambo dealers who should be able to fill you in (maybe begrudgeingly!!)on the cars history. The up side is that you'll probably get a car 5-6K less than dealer prices for a little effort.
Youre definately doing the right thing in contemplating this. Life is far to short and we all work hard, so why not enjoy it and have your toys.

if you need anymore info let me know.

Andy.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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cummingsa said:

Gary,

Manual is definately the way to go IMO (that should get me slated by all the flappy paddle lovers!!). The Gallardo for me has the best peddle set up for H&T that i've ever owned. There are now four official dealers (London,Manchester, Birmingham and Edinborough).Lambo Wyecombe is also an authorised service agent. There are alot of good independants about as well. i bought mine from Top555 as it was the best car at the time for the right money.

I would not be particularly put off by buying private as long as you do the usual inspection and HPI thing. As these cars are rare in the UK most are going to be known by one of the Lambo dealers who should be able to fill you in (maybe begrudgeingly!!)on the cars history. The up side is that you'll probably get a car 5-6K less than dealer prices for a little effort.
Youre definately doing the right thing in contemplating this. Life is far to short and we all work hard, so why not enjoy it and have your toys.

if you need anymore info let me know.

Andy.


Andy

Once the house is sold and I'm ready to go I will definately be in touch for some guidance. Many thanks for the offer. As you say life is too short not to!!!

Gary

godzilla

2,033 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd June 2006
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cummingsa said:
Thats basically an edited version of the article Mike wrote for LCUK magazine. Love the article and he even left the lovely pic of my car in as well, nice one Mike.

I've done just over 7,000 miles in my Gallardo and aside of having the clutch replaced (under warranty) and the air con packing up twice (both times the week before Le-Mans!!) it has ran faultlessly.

i'm still on my original rear tyres at 10,200 miles as well, but they will have to be replaced shortly.

In short don't think about buying one just do. Just make sure its a manual though... that should start another heated debate!!!!

Andy.


Hi Andy, fancy joining Mike in writing about your car? Auto-Journals is slightly different from Evo's Fast Fleet in that we actively want many examples of the same car so that readers (and prospective car buyers) can build up a genuine impression of the reality of owning that model.

It would be fascinating to do a comparison of, say, clutch issues between a manual and an E-gear. Does the lack of left foot rest space bother you for instance?

Anyway if you're interested, or if any other Ferrari, Maserati or Lamborghini owners are interested, here is the link to our Become a Writer section. www.auto-journals.com/s2/content/become_a_writer.html

David Yu, Managing Editor

www.auto-journals.com

crikeymikey

1,093 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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garyhun said:
Mike

Have you really had no other costs apart from servicing and rear tires? Seems incrediby reasonable for such a supercar!

You obviusly love the E-gear... have you driven a manual as a comparison?

Am seriously thinking of getting one of these beasties when my house sells and stories like yours, 8500 miles with no issues, just make it seem all the more "sensible" to do it!!


I haven't had any problems with my car atall and, as I said, the only costs have been tyres and the first service (at 7500 miles). I only used a litre of oil in 4500 miles which I considered to be extraordinary in 500hp supercar.
I only managed 5500 miles out of my first rears, which is only half what AC has done. I don't try and spin the tyres, it's best to get a Gallardo rolling before doing anything silly with the throttle. I also keep a very close eye on pressures. Clutch was worn 37% at the 7500 mile service, which is fine on this sort of car IMO. My tyre wear suggests I don't 'nanny' the car so I haven't been going easy on anything. I haven't done any 'launch starts' though as the clutch will be mullered after 5 or 6 of these.

"Flappy stick" or paddle shift is very much a personal choice. I've driven both and there's no 'right or wrong' here. It depends on how you drive. Paddle shift can take a long time to get used to in order to fully understand it's potential. After 8500 miles in an E-gear it definitely suits my driving style. Manual is more instantly familiar and as such is easier on the brain (AC obviously excluded from that statement!). E-gear out-sells manual by some margin but whether that's for the right reasons, I don't know. Remember, E-gear is still a manual, not an automatic. E-gear is adaptive. The more miles you do the more the gearbox and throttle understand how you drive. If you just do a 100 miles you won't have scratched the surface and the experience will be unrewarding.
I can tell you that the manual is a lot easier to live with in slow traffic, though.

Lambos are defined by their engines, Ferraris are defined by their chassis feel. The Gallardo has bags of character, mostly defined by that gutsy V10, and an unshakeable grip, but it can take a while to discover this. All I can say is it works for me.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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crikeymikey said:
garyhun said:
Mike

Have you really had no other costs apart from servicing and rear tires? Seems incrediby reasonable for such a supercar!

You obviusly love the E-gear... have you driven a manual as a comparison?

Am seriously thinking of getting one of these beasties when my house sells and stories like yours, 8500 miles with no issues, just make it seem all the more "sensible" to do it!!


I haven't had any problems with my car atall and, as I said, the only costs have been tyres and the first service (at 7500 miles). I only used a litre of oil in 4500 miles which I considered to be extraordinary in 500hp supercar.
I only managed 5500 miles out of my first rears, which is only half what AC has done. I don't try and spin the tyres, it's best to get a Gallardo rolling before doing anything silly with the throttle. I also keep a very close eye on pressures. Clutch was worn 37% at the 7500 mile service, which is fine on this sort of car IMO. My tyre wear suggests I don't 'nanny' the car so I haven't been going easy on anything. I haven't done any 'launch starts' though as the clutch will be mullered after 5 or 6 of these.

"Flappy stick" or paddle shift is very much a personal choice. I've driven both and there's no 'right or wrong' here. It depends on how you drive. Paddle shift can take a long time to get used to in order to fully understand it's potential. After 8500 miles in an E-gear it definitely suits my driving style. Manual is more instantly familiar and as such is easier on the brain (AC obviously excluded from that statement!). E-gear out-sells manual by some margin but whether that's for the right reasons, I don't know. Remember, E-gear is still a manual, not an automatic. E-gear is adaptive. The more miles you do the more the gearbox and throttle understand how you drive. If you just do a 100 miles you won't have scratched the surface and the experience will be unrewarding.
I can tell you that the manual is a lot easier to live with in slow traffic, though.

Lambos are defined by their engines, Ferraris are defined by their chassis feel. The Gallardo has bags of character, mostly defined by that gutsy V10, and an unshakeable grip, but it can take a while to discover this. All I can say is it works for me.


Thanks Mike. I am definately a manual man but when the time comes will try both as I have zero experience of E-gear and thus nothing as a comparison.

Happy motoring!!

crikeymikey

1,093 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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garyhun said:
Thanks Mike. I am definately a manual man but when the time comes will try both as I have zero experience of E-gear and thus nothing as a comparison.

Happy motoring!!


No worries, gary.

If it makes you feel better, my mother has a "flappy stick" on her car and she loves it!

mhh

1,558 posts

243 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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crikeymikey said:
E-gear is adaptive. The more miles you do the more the gearbox and throttle understand how you drive.


Mike, do you mean in auto mode? In manual mode it obviously can't be 'adaptive' as the gears are manually changed - the driver is doing the 'adapting'.

Like you, I'm a fan of the e-gear. I've only sat in a manual in the showroom and pushed the clutch in a few times - that was enough for me. I'd like to try a manual properly one day, but I can't imagine ever buying one. Progress on a winding road would be too slow that way!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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mhh said:
[quote=crikeymikey] I'd like to try a manual properly one day, but I can't imagine ever buying one. Progress on a winding road would be too slow that way!

I'm sure this post will warrant some replies

5to1

1,781 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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crikeymikey said:
[quote=garyhun]Mike
I can tell you that the manual is a lot easier to live with in slow traffic, though.


Largely agree.

But on a RHD manual the off centre pedal positions and cramped bay present some problems of their own in stop start traffic.

cummingsa

730 posts

252 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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mhh said:
Progress on a winding road would be too slow that way!


If you're implying that an e-gear would be quicker on winding roads I think you're sadly mistaken. A good driver in a manual will keep with an e-gear anytime, I know i've proved it myself.

The performance of any car basically comes down to how good the driver is, E-gear or manual!

Andy.

mhh

1,558 posts

243 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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cummingsa said:
mhh said:
Progress on a winding road would be too slow that way!


If you're implying that an e-gear would be quicker on winding roads I think you're sadly mistaken. A good driver in a manual will keep with an e-gear anytime, I know i've proved it myself.

The performance of any car basically comes down to how good the driver is, E-gear or manual!

Andy.


I was saying I would be slower on a winding road in a manual than an e-gear. I've owned plenty of manual cars, but I can't change gears as fast or as easily as the e-gear can, especially when I'm more comfortable with both hands on the wheel in the tight stuff. The higher geared SE steering is pretty heavy.

Having said that, I'm definitely going to road test the manual version of the next car I buy rather than jumping straight back into another SMG. It would be good to feel the gears mesh throught the palm of your hand - I miss that.

crikeymikey

1,093 posts

218 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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cummingsa said:
The performance of any car basically comes down to how good the driver is, E-gear or manual!

Andy.


Well said, Andy.
And let that be an end to the whole debate.

dinkel

Original Poster:

26,960 posts

259 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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A debate about drivers could be more interesting than a debate about cars . . .

Anyways, cracking car. I love the compactness of the Galls shape. Looking forward to your next write-up. :thumbsup:

godzilla

2,033 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Andy, any thoughts on contributing to auto-journals? Mike has already submitted his second piece! (although it will be a while before we can put it up, there are loads of journals stacking up)
David Yu

www.auto-journals.com