Bruntingthorpe III - Oct 12th
Discussion
tony_996hasgone said:It is possible to get to the car park without using the track.
True, I assume that spectators will go to the waiting area parallel to the runway, which means, in order to get there from the car park, they'll need to use the track....
Turn left immediately on entering the site and follow the perimeter road.
tony_996hasgone said:Indeed - I hit the corner next to the "on part" from the perimiter road at around 100-110.
from memory the likes of Dazren, Joust and probably quite a few other were throwing
their machinery into those corners at well above the motorway speed limit....
Can I suggest that spectaters get there before 10:00am. Spectators that arrive after that should go right around the perimiter road and then wait until two cars have gone past. They will then know that they have 1 minute or so until the next set of cars comes hooning around, long enough for even the slowest car to get around.
The "wait" point would be where the arrow is from memory
www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=459620&y=288235&z=4&sv=459500,288500
but JC knows it better than I do.
J
Clearly it would be easier if everyone got to the venue on time 9.30am.
Assuming this doesn't happen I have an
Any latecomers should make their way to the car park with the Ratburger van (by turning left after the security guards cabin and following the perimeter of the venue around until you turn right through some bushes to the car park) then approach the runway complex with caution and pull over by a specified vehicle which we have left parked up. The last driver of a set of runs then pulls off if he/she sees a waiting car and escorts the latecomers to the starting/viewing area on the track, without the likes of Joust, Derestrictor, Andiroo and myself etc... closing in on the mobile hazard. The next set of runs does not commence until the last driver is back at the start.
DAZ
Assuming this doesn't happen I have an
Any latecomers should make their way to the car park with the Ratburger van (by turning left after the security guards cabin and following the perimeter of the venue around until you turn right through some bushes to the car park) then approach the runway complex with caution and pull over by a specified vehicle which we have left parked up. The last driver of a set of runs then pulls off if he/she sees a waiting car and escorts the latecomers to the starting/viewing area on the track, without the likes of Joust, Derestrictor, Andiroo and myself etc... closing in on the mobile hazard. The next set of runs does not commence until the last driver is back at the start.
DAZ
Ah - I thought I got it wrong.
Sorry - right link here
www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=459850&y=288805&z=4&sv=459500,288500
As for the plan - excellent one - sounds good to me.
J
Sorry - right link here
www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=459850&y=288805&z=4&sv=459500,288500
As for the plan - excellent one - sounds good to me.
J
OK - if I've got this right, here is a PDF map of what Daz has proposed.
www.lotus-elise.org.uk/BruntersVids/bruntersmap.pdf
Any corrections (or any other's) just shout.
J
www.lotus-elise.org.uk/BruntersVids/bruntersmap.pdf
Any corrections (or any other's) just shout.
J
From the entrance point on the track one has quite a good view of what is coming your way. Yes I accept there may be slower cars than yours coming on track (Daz, Joust, DeR, etc) but you will have a fair bit of notice to see what is coming.
Just my two penneth.
Alternatively, we have a number of volunteers to "marshall" - one person could possibly let cars onto the track?
It seemed to work last time IIRC.
Just my two penneth.
Alternatively, we have a number of volunteers to "marshall" - one person could possibly let cars onto the track?
It seemed to work last time IIRC.
Sorry Greg I disagree. 
Some of the later arrivals (probably spectators) may not have visited the venue before and/or know their way around the track.
Optimal safety for Vmax drivers is achieved by not having anyone driving on track who has not attended the safety briefing, done the guided lap at slow speed etc...
We need an absolute rule on this for everyone so everyone knows where they stand. I still suggest if someone gets to the venue late they can make their way via the perimeter roads to the location pointed out on Joust's map and their presence can be noted by passing Vmaxers, the marshall setting off the Vmaxers out on track can give the nod to a driver to call off and escort the late arrivals to the on track starting point. Holding back Vmaxers until the latecomers are with the group and off of the track.
DAZ
PS1 - I don't see why a person should stand by the entry point to the track all day because some people can't be arsed to get there on time.
PS2 - Craig, care to comment/give a ruling.
>> Edited by dazren on Wednesday 8th October 00:27
Some of the later arrivals (probably spectators) may not have visited the venue before and/or know their way around the track.
Optimal safety for Vmax drivers is achieved by not having anyone driving on track who has not attended the safety briefing, done the guided lap at slow speed etc...
We need an absolute rule on this for everyone so everyone knows where they stand. I still suggest if someone gets to the venue late they can make their way via the perimeter roads to the location pointed out on Joust's map and their presence can be noted by passing Vmaxers, the marshall setting off the Vmaxers out on track can give the nod to a driver to call off and escort the late arrivals to the on track starting point. Holding back Vmaxers until the latecomers are with the group and off of the track.
DAZ
PS1 - I don't see why a person should stand by the entry point to the track all day because some people can't be arsed to get there on time.
PS2 - Craig, care to comment/give a ruling.
>> Edited by dazren on Wednesday 8th October 00:27
hmm, having given it some thought and based apon my near miss last time I think Daz's idea is best.
Those spectators not there by 9.30 wait by the burger van in the carpark, you will still have a good view of the cars finishing the runs & coming by you. Every 20 mins or so we will check the carpark & bring any latecomers to a safe place.
(I know this will not be 100% adhered to but we'll do our best) agreed chaps ?
Those spectators not there by 9.30 wait by the burger van in the carpark, you will still have a good view of the cars finishing the runs & coming by you. Every 20 mins or so we will check the carpark & bring any latecomers to a safe place.
(I know this will not be 100% adhered to but we'll do our best) agreed chaps ?
Craig,
Having had a very nice chat with the service engineers at Maranellos I have some useful info regarding running 3200's at high speed - garnered from their experience of Maserati hoonery also at bruntingthorpe.
Top speed they've achieved is 160mph. Something for us to aim for!
They suggest a 3-4psi reduction in tyre pressures to avoid twichiness over 130/140mph.
Recommend taking oil with us - 10W40oil selenia racing (Available from maserati/fiat/alfa garages) - or any 10W40 fully synthetic shell branded fine too (and he said anythign at a pinch!). 3200's are known to consume oil at a fair rate under heavy accelleration.
Oil pressure gague will drop after being run hard - at idle the lowest you should safely see is 0.75bar (down from normal 5 bar). This should jump right back up when you blip the throttle.
Having had a very nice chat with the service engineers at Maranellos I have some useful info regarding running 3200's at high speed - garnered from their experience of Maserati hoonery also at bruntingthorpe.
Top speed they've achieved is 160mph. Something for us to aim for!
They suggest a 3-4psi reduction in tyre pressures to avoid twichiness over 130/140mph.
Recommend taking oil with us - 10W40oil selenia racing (Available from maserati/fiat/alfa garages) - or any 10W40 fully synthetic shell branded fine too (and he said anythign at a pinch!). 3200's are known to consume oil at a fair rate under heavy accelleration.
Oil pressure gague will drop after being run hard - at idle the lowest you should safely see is 0.75bar (down from normal 5 bar). This should jump right back up when you blip the throttle.
ah, nice research pal. 160 eh, interesting. It does depend a lot on how far down the course you put the speed traps to allow for safe braking and also head or tail winds can have an effect. The first time I took the 348 I managed 155, the second 169, i think this was all due to the traps being a lot further down.
Yours will be quicker than mine (being an auto). it's also interesting to see how far off your speedo is at that speed.
Yours will be quicker than mine (being an auto). it's also interesting to see how far off your speedo is at that speed.
I can't make this one (long story) but I too would be interested in the top speed achieved by a 3200 and the opions about handling and tyres. I've seen 170 on the clock in Germany and my tyres overheated on the 'ring so maybe dropping the pressures would have helped.
Good luck to all of those going and have fun!
Good luck to all of those going and have fun!
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