if you had the money.....

if you had the money.....

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Beasty

240 posts

284 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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I'm with Flash on this one, the Maser is the way forward.

However given the cash, I'd certainly have a Bentley Conti. GT as well., er and a Vanquish, and perhaps a Bristol Fighter....

trackdemon

12,193 posts

262 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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rpk said:
which would you buy just because you needed a 2+2 (just to get the wife to go along with the plan):

456gtm
612 scag
aston vanquish
bentley cont gt
porsche turbo


AFAIK the Vanquish does not actually have rear seats, it is a pure sports 2 seater a' la 550 / 575; that's what the DB7 Vantage is for.
So if we were replacing the Vanquish in you rlist with a DB7 my order would be:

DB7 Vantage (so much style)
456 (so much style)
Porsche TT (so much fun / performance)
Bentley Conti (straightline weapon, but compromised by VW underpinnings)
612 Scaglietti (Ugly Ferrari is a cardinal sin)

I'd slot the Mas 4200 in behind the Porsche and maybe consider an XKRR if money is even slightly a concern. I suspect however that the forthcoming DB9 will top the lot - not long till launch so if your seriously interested I'd get thee to HR Owen soon as....

joelk

175 posts

257 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Lots of misinformed opinions of 456 ownership being banded about here...

There is AMPLE room in the back for 2 full grown adults to sit comforatbly on long journeys in the back. Have done it in mine many times.

Running costs are the same as any other car of this nature. You don't buy them for economy. Accepted, tootling round town in a 5.5 V12 isn't a cheap thing to do. However - on long journeys, I can easily get about 300 miles + for a £65 full tank.

Practicallity - I use mine daily, it's been (touch wood) - 100% reliabaile, despite all the horroor stories I had heard.

The 612 looks good, but personally, the styling isn't as exciting as the 456. I wouldn't really consider the others at this point.

HOWEVER - you gotta say the Vanqish does look the mutts nuts. I might swap it for a week - just to test it!

rpk

Original Poster:

29 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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trackdemon, sorry to tell you but the vanquish does have a couple of rear seats in the 2+2 version. as most people have said they aren't really able to fit anybody over the age of 3 but nevertheless, the seats are there.

danhay

7,439 posts

257 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Another vote for the 456.

I've always really liked the way they looked, ever since they first came out. Also, it's got an awsome motor and performance to scare a superbike...plus there's the Ferrari specialness in the way it goes about it's business.

Aston would probably be next on the list?

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=86272&f=63&h=0&p=2

Steff posted a nice 400i pic. Can carry 4 adults.

BrianDrought

99 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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I'd have none of the above... I'd take a CL65 AMG ta very much...

Davey S1

13,097 posts

255 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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My father has just changed from a 400i to a 456.

I quite liked the 400i. Not the best looking Ferrari ever made but better in the metal than photo's suggest. The old mans was light blue which helped.

We did 3,500 miles across Europe in it and although there was only 2 of us there was loads of room.

Cruising performance was good too and it would quite happily cruise at 140 all day long. One of the fuel pumps knackered in Germany and we did about 700 miles home on 6 cylinders and still cruised at 100 mph.

I have only been out in the 456 twice so far but the performance in that is fantastic. It feels like it will go all day long at huge speeds.

Wouldnt describe it as a true 4 seater though. My dad is 6'4 and I am 6' and there was no leg room behind him at all. Steff was sitting behind me and while he fitted I doubt he would have wanted to do a particularly long journey in it.

You could always fork out £180k for the ex Sultan of Brunei 456 GT Estate

chris_n

1,232 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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I think my Mas 3200 will do fine until I can afford a Vanquish. When I get one of those, anyone who wants to go in the back of it will just have to be grateful they're getting a ride in it and not moan when they lose the use of their legs.

456GT would be my next choice
612 - hopefully a grower but not doing much for me so far
996TT - No doubing its capabilities but maybe a bit everyday compared to some of the other choices you list
Conti GT - It's not really a proper Bentley is it?
Merc super coupes - Yawn

All IMHO!!!

dazren

22,612 posts

262 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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trackdemon said:
AFAIK the Vanquish does not actually have rear seats, it is a pure sports 2 seater a' la 550 / 575; that's what the DB7 Vantage is for.


That's what I thought until I was educated last week.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=84578&f=70&h=0

Take a look at the Vanquish options on:

www.astonmartin.com

DAZ

Edited to say I'd go for the proper Bentley Continental, not the new VW/audi one.

>> Edited by dazren on Wednesday 10th March 17:32

mal

196 posts

247 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Money no object I would pick the Bentley GT, but being sensible is it really worth over £100K more than a Maserati. I would buy a two year old 3200GT and have a £130K to spent on a 360CS

mr_tony

6,328 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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mal is right!

If money no object though, I think I'd go for the new 612, I'm sure in the flesh this will be one hell of a good looker...

agent006

12,040 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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BrianDrought said:
I'd have none of the above... I'd take a CL65 AMG ta very much...


Yep, same here. 612bhp + 738 lb/ft anyone?

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

266 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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agent006 said:

BrianDrought said:
I'd have none of the above... I'd take a CL65 AMG ta very much...



Yep, same here. 612bhp + 738 lb/ft anyone?


But wheres the Spirit... the passion... the soul...


It didnt 'compute' so was never 'created'

prancing

174 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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Mmmm.456GT even if you don't need the back seats, fewer seen on the road, bargain prices because people don't actually consdider a 4 seater Ferrari, drive one properly and it is devastating. Proper back seats providing the passengers clench their ar5e cheeks because it feels even quicker in the rear seats.

Good luck
G.

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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Davey S1 said:
( . . . )

You could always fork out £180k for the ex Sultan of Brunei 456 GT Estate


www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=188

This is insane . . . I wonder if there are more estates like this? Looks better than a Volvo . . .

Davey S1

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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Dinkel there is a big thread all about the Sultan's cars on ferrarichat.com in the general section.

Some very weird and wonderful stuff including Bentley SUV's and all sorts of prototype Ferrari's

Guesstimates are anywhere between 3,500 and 4,000 cars in total.

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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Thanx Davey S1, I dunno if I wanna see all that. Amazing where people spent their money on.

Let me stick to the subject: Jenssen interceptor, F400i, were the last really fast familycars with class other than the pimporappobling (Merc, Bentley)?

trackdemon

12,193 posts

262 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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dazren said:

trackdemon said:
AFAIK the Vanquish does not actually have rear seats, it is a pure sports 2 seater a' la 550 / 575; that's what the DB7 Vantage is for.



That's what I thought until I was educated last week.

<a href="http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=84578&f=70&h=0">www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=84578&f=70&h=0</a>

Take a look at the Vanquish options on:

<a href="http://www.astonmartin.com">www.astonmartin.com</a>

DAZ

Edited to say I'd go for the proper Bentley Continental, not the new VW/audi one.

>> Edited by dazren on Wednesday 10th March 17:32


Well I never. I stand corrected! Not much there though...

Like the fact that the brochures are downloadable PDF's

Davey S1

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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If it was going to be a more mainstream manufacturer I would have an Audi RS6 over a Merc any day of the week.