Vintage Morris engine gone pop

Vintage Morris engine gone pop

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244 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Our friend uses a Morris ex ambulance of 1967 vintage for selling cream ices at events / shows. The engine seems to have seized and may need replacing. Any leads to a good and quick repair or exchange engine by a garage or mobile mechanic. The area of the vehicle is Stowmarket, near Bury St Edmunds.

G600

1,479 posts

188 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Is it a minor van? If so its probably got an A series engine, lots of mini specialists that could sort you out if that's the case.

PoleDriver

28,643 posts

195 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Nah! Put a Rover V8 in it, he'll be able to do the round in half the time! smile

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Friday 31st August 2012
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G600 said:
Is it a minor van? If so its probably got an A series engine, lots of mini specialists that could sort you out if that's the case.
Its a LDM 30W I believe an ex ambulance.

annodomini2

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252 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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??

Apparently quite rare.

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annodomini2 said:


??

Apparently quite rare.
Trying to find out the correct engine for the vehicle, I believe it is a 'B' series 1622cc? Nice old thing and well worth repairing. Thanks for posting an image.

annodomini2

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Friday 31st August 2012
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crankedup said:
annodomini2 said:


??

Apparently quite rare.
Trying to find out the correct engine for the vehicle, I believe it is a 'B' series 1622cc? Nice old thing and well worth repairing. Thanks for posting an image.
1622 is an unusual size, you could probably do one of the following:

1. Buy recond MGB/Midget engine
2. Get MGB/Midget engine specialist to rebuild the engine in the van (if it's salvageable)

one eyed mick

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162 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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The 1622 was on of the last guises of the B series engines lots were made but I would think any thing new is long gone ,obvious replacements are B series engine but not MGB spec you require the low comp type to pull a heavy lump like that around any thing tuned would be an embarrasment. The diesel brother to it would work , but a straight forward recon would be my take , Midget and A series types would be hard pushed and need a g/box change too . Austin Cambridge Morris Oxford forum may be worth a look , I did a 6 year apprenticeship on this sort of stuff in the late sixties and as you say that vehicle was rare then so it certainly must be now hth

williredale

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153 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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annodomini2 said:
1622 is an unusual size, you could probably do one of the following:

1. Buy recond MGB/Midget engine
2. Get MGB/Midget engine specialist to rebuild the engine in the van (if it's salvageable)
It shouldn't be that unusual a size as it was used in a lot of cars and vans from 1962 on. I don't know where you might get one though although there are specialists for the MGB who will sell you a 1800. Midget is an A series (or Triumph 1500) so no good for you.

annodomini2

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Friday 31st August 2012
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williredale said:
It shouldn't be that unusual a size as it was used in a lot of cars and vans from 1962 on. I don't know where you might get one though although there are specialists for the MGB who will sell you a 1800. Midget is an A series (or Triumph 1500) so no good for you.
Stand corrected, always assumed the 1500 was a B-series.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

229 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Farina spec engine from an A60 would be my choice, slightly higher comp ratio & will be more economical & a bit more go. Lots of these floating around I'd have thought.

DVandrews

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284 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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The A60 and all it's variants had 1622cc engines, some with twin SUs, most have been consumed by banger racing. The 1500s more or less disappeared with the Riley/Wolseley 1500s.

williredale

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153 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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annodomini2 said:
Stand corrected, always assumed the 1500 was a B-series.
smile It was the engine from the Spitfire.

PoleDriver

28,643 posts

195 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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It would be a very easy job to strip down, send crankshaft and block off to machine shop for regrind/rebore then re-assemble with new rings/shells/valve grind etc.
'B' Series engines really are easy to work on!

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Monday 3rd September 2012
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PoleDriver said:
It would be a very easy job to strip down, send crankshaft and block off to machine shop for regrind/rebore then re-assemble with new rings/shells/valve grind etc.
'B' Series engines really are easy to work on!
Thanks for input and discussion, the engine is now out and off to Scholar Engineering for 'a bit of work'. I will post up results later when the job is finished.

one eyed mick

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162 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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williredale said:
smile It was the engine from the Spitfire.
The Spitfire engine had nothing to do with the BMC engines it was wholly Triumph streched from the Herld etc the BMC B series was orig 1498 whant to 1622 and can be bored stroked out to around 2.1 or so but its an expensive job !!!

Mr2Mike

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256 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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one eyed mick said:
The Spitfire engine had nothing to do with the BMC engines it was wholly Triumph streched from the Herld etc the BMC B series was orig 1498 whant to 1622 and can be bored stroked out to around 2.1 or so but its an expensive job !!!
The 1500 engine in the MG Midget was the same basic lump used in the final version of Triumph Spitfire, exactly as williredale says. It has no relation to the B series as others have pointed out.

williredale

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153 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Mr2Mike said:
one eyed mick said:
The Spitfire engine had nothing to do with the BMC engines it was wholly Triumph streched from the Herld etc the BMC B series was orig 1498 whant to 1622 and can be bored stroked out to around 2.1 or so but its an expensive job !!!
The 1500 engine in the MG Midget was the same basic lump used in the final version of Triumph Spitfire, exactly as williredale says. It has no relation to the B series as others have pointed out.
Exactly. We're all saying the same thing smile

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Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Thanks again for input. The old engine is apparently well beyond economic repair, so still looking for an engine, any leads, comments and advise appreciated in addition to the posts above.

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Wednesday 5th September 2012
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one eyed mick said:
The 1622 was on of the last guises of the B series engines lots were made but I would think any thing new is long gone ,obvious replacements are B series engine but not MGB spec you require the low comp type to pull a heavy lump like that around any thing tuned would be an embarrasment. The diesel brother to it would work , but a straight forward recon would be my take , Midget and A series types would be hard pushed and need a g/box change too . Austin Cambridge Morris Oxford forum may be worth a look , I did a 6 year apprenticeship on this sort of stuff in the late sixties and as you say that vehicle was rare then so it certainly must be now hth
Thanks, in for a look.