rwd inline 4 question

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Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Lampredi Twin cam.

NotNormal

2,360 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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If you want turbocharged then just use an engine already turbocharged from the start. Vauxhall/Opel engines already with a turbo would be C20LET from Calibra/Cavalier, Z20LET from Astra G/VX220 or if you want smaller capacity look at the new Corsa VXR's as these engines are used by Westfield in their kit cars.


stevieturbo

17,271 posts

248 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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thatcoolwind said:
i would first like to tell that its not an off-road vechile

my friend operates a chassis and bodywork shop,a customer of his approached him for a tvr/lotus style small,fast no frills track toy,me and him will be building it in his spare time (why does the guy just dont buy one is beyond me but hey its a fun project and a good way to profit since all is custom made)

we will be building a space frame and bolt on aluminum body panels

the reason for those spesifics is that we'd like to choose the cams and internals,send it to someone for balancing and assembly,slap on a turbo then tune it and be done

i would also like to add that i have nothing against timing chains,i just prefer belts to them for reasons previously mentioned

anyway thanks for all the suggestions,i will be looking into opel and ford engines as well
So is it front engine, mid engine, rear ?

Your initial post seems to suggest n/a engines, but then you want to turbo at a later date. this route makes no sense. You need to aim for the turbo engine from a factory car, and install it, job done.
Trying to retrofit a turbo kit in an already built chassis will create more headaches and expense.
Build it with the turbo in mind from square one. Choose an already turbocharged engine.

For a mid engine, transaxle, a Subaru flat 4 would have a lot going for it. It's all alloy, not too heavy and a lowish centre of gravity, and comes in many turbo varieties.

Front engine rwd is also quite doable with this engine/box

Mr MXT

7,692 posts

284 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Another vote for Duratec / Supercharged duratec.

Bobley

699 posts

150 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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I dont like using timing belt engines in track cars. If you put the car in the kitty litter there's a good chance of getting a bit of grit inside the timing belt cover and the cover stops it bouncing out again so it lands in the timing drive pulley - Crunch. I've seen some cars run without covers or try to fit wedges in the gaps. Timing chains are much lower maintenance and avoid all the issues of ingesting muck.

PublicDrifter

24 posts

191 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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Toyota 3s-gte on a six speed Lexus box. Cheap, tuneable, readily available, simple loom and ecu.

Ford YB on a T-5 box. Readily available, highly tuneable, expensive.

Nissan CA18DET on 200SX box. In fact you could use a 200SX as a donor for the whole drivetrain.

Volvo 740 turbo engine and box.

Toyota 4a-gze on Toyota T-50 box or ford type 9 with off the shelf adaptor.

I'd be leaning towards a volvo lump for outright reliability and tunability. Would a 5cyl not fit, it would add an extra dimension with huge power and awesome soundtrack.

Robmarriott

2,641 posts

159 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Give us some more info on the car, that might help

I agree with everyone, I wouldn't not be fitting a duratec, whatever the scenario.

MKnight702

3,110 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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How about thinking so far outside the box that you can't ses it.

Use a FWD engine, turn it longitudinal, run two prop shafts, one to the front, one to the rear. Two diffs and drive shafts to make 4WD. Easy!

Only downside would be gearing, but it would make an awesome offroader.

Shamelessly stolen from Scrapheap Challenge where they messed it up by cutting through the engine loom and wondering why the car only ran in limp home mode

PaulKemp

979 posts

146 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Ford from Zetec back all have the same bellhousing bolt pattern so the ford Type9 or MT75 RWD or 4x4 box bolts straight on.
Duratec uses a bellhousing to mate to Type9
There are similar products for 4AGE and Vauxhall
It's not a hard job all the kit car boys do this

Red16

589 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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HustleRussell said:
Use a bike engine
Great way of keeping weight down, engine and gearbox assembly with oil in will be aound 70kg, it'll also have a sequential 6 speed gearbox too!

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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MKnight702 said:
How about thinking so far outside the box that you can't ses it.

Use a FWD engine, turn it longitudinal, run two prop shafts, one to the front, one to the rear. Two diffs and drive shafts to make 4WD. Easy!

Only downside would be gearing, but it would make an awesome offroader.

Shamelessly stolen from Scrapheap Challenge where they messed it up by cutting through the engine loom and wondering why the car only ran in limp home mode
Nissan GTR trick IIRC:
http://www.gtr-world.net/en_r35gtr-special/test_an...

Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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Any 2wd Audi A4/A6/A8 While FF they're all transaxles with so stick it in the back instead and you have a pre-packaged MR setup. No need to mess with different gearboxes, adapter plates etc. Ok so you have to mess a bit with the gear linkages but same goes for any MR setup.

Go for one of the turbo petrols and there is plenty of go with no real engine mods required.