RE: 4 Stroke Redesigned

RE: 4 Stroke Redesigned

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Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Weight piston and valve same diameter - 62 mm
Right now without springs. Only retainers.




Regards Andrew coffeecoffee

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Since when the keg came into existence, for it is her shipping by ships constituted a spot of bother. That is how, they forgot to attach, while swinging the ship rolled from one side to other side, hitting in not around with great energy. There was this great danger for the crew. That is how, they forgot to attach, while swinging the ship rolled from one side to other side, hitting in not around with great energy. I decided to use this energy for the production of the electric current with the help of the oscillatory dynamo. It is a pendulum driving the oscillatory dynamo around so with keg. It will be sufficient to install shipboard or for other swimming raft, and during waving we have the electricity, rather than danger


block of osillating dynamo:



Regards Andrew coffeecoffee


Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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So that you get rid of the doubt next photographs with accurate data :




Diameter popped 75 mm , diameter piston 76.5 mm

Right now are you shure ?? Any washes.



Weight popped 75 mm 1000 G
weight piston & rod 76.5 mm 850 G
weight popped 62 mm 400 G
weight piston & rod 62 mm 370 G

But the window of the flight of the valve of 75 mm is only 64 mm, what is very similar to the window of the flight piston 62 mm .

That is it results from it that the valve of 75 mm is giving the same flight as the piston 62 mm that is 1000 G to 370 G !!!!!

==~~ 2.5 more weight popped to piston& rod !!

It only looks impossibly. but this way is.biggrin





In principle ,for them greater popped/piston diameter, it is this difference in weight will be to the benefit of pistons.

Regards Andrew wavey

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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[url=http://www.uncells.com/]http://www.uncells.com/[/url]

http://www.uncells.com/]

Regards Andrew clapclap

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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And mutation pendulum dynamo



Or magnet tooth plate






Andrew coffeecoffee



Edited by Feliks on Saturday 19th September 02:25

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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So far we exploited the energy arising with the help of the pendulum only for stopping him. rolleyes


Clik on picture, see animation

http://ultra.ap.krakow.pl/~ogar/elektromagnetyzm/w...

Regards Andrew bowtie

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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It is a next mutation of the swaying pendulum around it pivot :




And it is a conception of containing inside box a dozen or so of such pendulums giving the electricity under the influence of moving. Of course completely hermetically sealed box.



It is next my proposal to use sea waves for the production of the electric current


Regards Andrew coffeecoffee

dilbert

7,741 posts

231 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Was reading about this today.

Let's see if I can find the link....

http://www.reuk.co.uk/Archimedes-Wave-Swing-Machin...

There you go!

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Feliks said:
It is a next mutation of the swaying pendulum around it pivot :




And it is a conception of containing inside box a dozen or so of such pendulums giving the electricity under the influence of moving. Of course completely hermetically sealed box.



It is next my proposal to use sea waves for the production of the electric current


Regards Andrew coffeecoffee
Similar design already under going testing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6410839.stm

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Now all tubules in one time are giving the energy from the move of the pendulum




And on the other side pendulums a next PCB set can also be. Altogether it for example 1000 pieces of coils and magnets of sets can be. Every coils is giving 1 watt.

Regards Andrew biggrinbiggrin

Good alternate on flywheel ? ( turning the principle away perhaps of theses to be starter ( Large stepper motor))smokin

http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/ph/p/id/133#toc1
http://www.shinano.com/xampp/docs/Stepper%20Motor%...








Edited by Feliks on Wednesday 23 September 00:02

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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[quote=Feliks]....
Good alternate on flywheel ? ( turning the principle away perhaps of theses to be starter ( Large stepper motor))[/qote]

Large stepper motor right name: "Disk Stepper motor"

An some mutation : excellent too cel phone







Andrew bowtie







Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Now he will show and I will explain the rule of operation my new dynastarter :





Next on hard PCB put some coils end electronics.
every so the "green cylinder" has the magnet, two tubules with shuffled teeth for the half of their size of the division, a bit electronics of the type small bridge on mossfets, securities on varistors electronics controlling generate the electricity . Current on each coil about 5 Ampers menage mossfets.
Everything contloled of course with microprocessor .






It is put on this hard PCB plate about 150 of such arrangements with coils and the electronics parts





everyone so complet of elements is decreeing with 5 amperes, rally if to do about 150 pieces of these elements and to put them on this PCB tile, we can manage about 750 amperes what should completely be enough for the warming up the engine. Receiving the electric current in the same way for charging a battery is already a banally simple matter.



I think, that such PCB it "Automotive mother board" the same "Automotive mother board" is replacing the alternator and the starter. Flywheel still is always in the engine.




Principe as same , but in disc version http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/ph/p/id/133#toc1

Regards Andrew coffee

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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That method is certainly possible. I'm not sure it is desirable though. The old starter motor is cheap to make, robust and reliable. If it goes wrong, you unbolt it, and bolt a new one in. The back of an engine is a horrible place to be, with a huge amount of heat, vibration, and dirty bits of metal. If one of those soldered connections fails, then it will lose power. If a Mosfet fails short circuit (which they do, epecially when heated) it would potentially burn out part of the circuit board. Replacing it would mean removal of the engine and flywheel.

In the past, it has been proposed to drive a flywheel radially, like a conventional stepper motor. This makes the electronics more accessible, and needs fewer driving components. Unfortunately the problem of packaging it remains. Of course, either system may be used to generate electrical power, which brings up the possibility of a F1 KERS type system, which would be fitted elsewhere in the drivetrain. Perhaps on the gearbox input shaft, so that either the engine or the road wheels can be decoupled as necessary.


The Riddler

6,565 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Looks like an interesting thread.. Just getting it in mystuff to read when im less tired. smile

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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Zad said:
That method is certainly possible. I'm not sure it is desirable though. The old starter motor is cheap to make, robust and reliable. If it goes wrong, you unbolt it, and bolt a new one in. The back of an engine is a horrible place to be, with a huge amount of heat, vibration, and dirty bits of metal. If one of those soldered connections fails, then it will lose power. If a Mosfet fails short circuit (which they do, epecially when heated) it would potentially burn out part of the circuit board. Replacing it would mean removal of the engine and flywheel.

In the past, it has been proposed to drive a flywheel radially, like a conventional stepper motor. This makes the electronics more accessible, and needs fewer driving components. Unfortunately the problem of packaging it remains. Of course, either system may be used to generate electrical power, which brings up the possibility of a F1 KERS type system, which would be fitted elsewhere in the drivetrain. Perhaps on the gearbox input shaft, so that either the engine or the road wheels can be decoupled as necessary.
Pcb are possible in 2 half part.



Two ribbon cable, and sensitive electronics put outside of hot engine.
On PCB only magnets and coils , and nonsensitive electronics filled with resin.

Andrew coffeecoffee

Edited by Feliks on Thursday 1st October 09:59

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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So far I didn't still deal with a brake system of the car .

Without any interference in a brake system existing so far, I will prolong his work live at least twice .
So so:
Do you know electric retarder in big truck and buses?
When they applied the ones electric retarder in these cars, consuming the part of a brake system it diminished repeatedly .
Rght now are possible using this retarder in little passengers cars
That is, when this my new idea ,will be applied dynastarter, one should also equip him with the function electric retarder. Namely, with the help of a brake pedal, at first to give the electricity on the one dynastarter with a view to braking for them, and only then, when braking will be this way insufficient, a brake pedal will start a traditional brake system .

This dismisser which will be possible for the accomplishment on dynastarter, will be acting on a bit of an other principle than electric retarderin lorries. That is, provided electricity to dynastarter, will be producing the braking torque similar to the holding torque in stepping motors.

I think, around when drivers will have the big red diode in the car ,led which will be becoming when traditional brakes are starting acting, they will be supposed this way to suppress ambitions so that she doesn't become , that is a traditional brake system is out of work. I think that an entire brake system used this way will be enough on all life of the car, without any exchanges of him parts friction.

This asolutely new function of new dynastarter.

Regards Andrew coffeecoffee

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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Feliks said:
Zad said:
That method is certainly possible. I'm not sure it is desirable though. The old starter motor is cheap to make, robust and reliable. If it goes wrong, you unbolt it, and bolt a new one in. The back of an engine is a horrible place to be, with a huge amount of heat, vibration, and dirty bits of metal. If one of those soldered connections fails, then it will lose power. If a Mosfet fails short circuit (which they do, epecially when heated) it would potentially burn out part of the circuit board. Replacing it would mean removal of the engine and flywheel.

In the past, it has been proposed to drive a flywheel radially, like a conventional stepper motor. This makes the electronics more accessible, and needs fewer driving components. Unfortunately the problem of packaging it remains. Of course, either system may be used to generate electrical power, which brings up the possibility of a F1 KERS type system, which would be fitted elsewhere in the drivetrain. Perhaps on the gearbox input shaft, so that either the engine or the road wheels can be decoupled as necessary.
Pcb are possible in 2 half part.



Two ribbon cable, and sensitive electronics put outside of hot engine.
On PCB only magnets and coils , and nonsensitive electronics filled with resin.

Andrew coffeecoffee

Edited by Feliks on Thursday 1st October 09:59
Already been done:

http://www.iskra-ae.com/eng/docs/DC_integrated_fly...

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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annodomini2 said:
I thank too link wavey

Good iea, but at normal blushless motor.
Magnet must be on flywel.(only 5000 RPM)Long stator, rotor, good parameters.

I have too a dynstarter at 1969 year in this car(brush motor)biggrin




My idea is: Disc Stepper Motor.Little different.

Regards Andrew coffee

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Principe oscillating disc dynamo (pendulum)


Red Pin :


























Regards Andrew coffeecoffee

Feliks

739 posts

229 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Or swimmer too....



Andrew bowtie