Head gasket 20k miles?

Head gasket 20k miles?

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GreenV8S

30,198 posts

284 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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frenmor said:
Well for the head gasket to break you need extreme oil pressure or extreme heat right?
Not really.

HGF might involve the engine overheating but doesn't have to. None of the other sensors are going to tell you that HGF is imminent or that it happened.

You might eventually see side effects from oil or coolant loss or contamination leading to overheating or loss of oil pressure, but that's some way down the line. You certainly couldn't count on warning lights to tell you that HGF has occurred.

frenmor

Original Poster:

62 posts

96 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Thanks. Latest update from VW is they think there is a blockage in the breather circuit that is causing a pressure build up in the crank case (apologies if that makes no sense this has gone beyond my automotive knowledge). They are 90% certain its not the head gasket - great news.

Its still not cheap as you have to take apart the crank case to free the blockage but we are getting somewhere at least....

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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frenmor said:
Latest update from VW is they think there is a blockage in the breather circuit
That's yer low mileage, that is.

GreenV8S

30,198 posts

284 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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frenmor said:
you have to take apart the crank case to free the blockage
You have to what the what? confused

I suppose you might need to dismantle something to replace a seal if it's been blown out by crank case overpressure, but the breather system is basically a set of hoses on the outside of the engine and I wouldn't expect to dismantle the engine to fix/replace it.

frenmor

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62 posts

96 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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They can’t get the hose off apparently it’s too awkward without dismantling it....

Why does low mileage cause blockages in breather?

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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It doesn't. It's too many short journeys, with no hard or fast use that can affect some engines.

GreenV8S

30,198 posts

284 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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frenmor said:
Why does low mileage cause blockages in breather?
It's likely to be lots of short journeys rather than just the low mileage. Cold running leads to condensation build-up which mixes with oil to form an emulsion on cold surfaces. Breather hoses tend to be relatively cold so it can accumulate there.

frenmor

Original Poster:

62 posts

96 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Final verdict is that it’s a blocked oil seal. £60 part but 6 hours labour to take it all apart and put back together. Cut a long story short though they have offered to do it for free. Which I thibk is exceptionally nice. Thanks for all the help on here guys - much appreciated.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

239 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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frenmor said:
Final verdict is that it’s a blocked oil seal. £60 part but 6 hours labour to take it all apart and put back together. Cut a long story short though they have offered to do it for free. Which I thibk is exceptionally nice. Thanks for all the help on here guys - much appreciated.
good result , glad you have sorted it smile

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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frenmor said:
Final verdict is that it’s a blocked oil seal. £60 part but 6 hours labour to take it all apart and put back together. Cut a long story short though they have offered to do it for free. Which I thibk is exceptionally nice. Thanks for all the help on here guys - much appreciated.
Be sure to get back on social media to tell everyone how helpful VW were and thank the dealer principal...

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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frenmor said:
Final verdict is that it’s a blocked oil seal.
How can an oil seal be "blocked"? It's entire purpose is to prevent the flow of oil to places it shouldn't get to.

frenmor

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62 posts

96 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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I asked myself the same question... I guess they mean valve.... it was the regional manager calling me to tell me. I suspect he’s not a mechanic.

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
How can an oil seal be "blocked"? It's entire purpose is to prevent the flow of oil to places it shouldn't get to.
No doubt lost in translation by the time the info gets here...

imagineifyeswill

1,226 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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And we get back to the breather canister on the back of the engine which I mentioned earlier, there is a little bit of dismantling but hardly six hours.

frenmor

Original Poster:

62 posts

96 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Yes was a good shout. I am really glad I got VW to look at it because the Indy was adamant it was a Head Gasket issue. If I'd have paid £1500 to have that fixed would I have had any recourse if/when it didn't fix the issue? Definitely makes you think sometimes worth ponying up for the main dealer service....

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Usually the opposite is true...main dealers are usually morons. But in cases like that, any second opinion can save some money

But few of the symptoms or lead up to them suggested HG in the first place.