Manual car seems confused

Manual car seems confused

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stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Clearly it's spinning the back wheels.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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There may be an issue with the clutch

dhutch

14,388 posts

197 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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stevieturbo said:
Clearly it's spinning the back wheels.
Or slipping the wheels on the rim!

soggybiscuit

64 posts

106 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Cadence clutching. It’s the future of driving apparently.

GreenV8S

30,195 posts

284 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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S9JTO said:
Or is it something more mechanical?
In a manual gearbox car, the engine revs should always go up in proportion to the wheel speed while it is in gear with the clutch engaged. If the engine speed varies independently of the wheel speed, either it's not in gear or the clutch is slipping or the transmission is broken. Since the problem is only temporary you can assume the transmission hasn't broken. So you can conclude it is most likely a slipping clutch.

ETA I'm a little disappointed nobody else has suggested this after all this time.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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soggybiscuit said:
Cadence clutching. It’s the future of driving apparently.
yes

Also, have you been driving with the rear seats folded down, to save weight?

StevenB

777 posts

197 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Does sound like you clutch, we had a customer who could burn out a clutch in less than 3,000 miles, by the time the car had done 10,000 miles it was on it's third. all down to the driver, painful hearing her pull away, this was in 1978 ish

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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How much can I expect this to set me back then including labour costs at SEAT main dealer you reckon? I'm awaiting a price but until then...

A clutch kit which apparently fits is here: https://www.autodoc.co.uk/valeo/1108723

I intend to buy that and get them or somewhere else to fit that if it's the correct one.

PositronicRay

27,016 posts

183 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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S9JTO said:
How much can I expect this to set me back then including labour costs at SEAT main dealer you reckon? I'm awaiting a price but until then...

A clutch kit which apparently fits is here: https://www.autodoc.co.uk/valeo/1108723

I intend to buy that and get them or somewhere else to fit that if it's the correct one.
I think I'd be asking garage to supply and fit, minimises liability issues.

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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PositronicRay said:
I think I'd be asking garage to supply and fit, minimises liability issues.
Fair point, that's probably what I'll do anyway - Just hoping it isn't going to be anywhere near £1k or more like some horror stories I've read from VAG dealers.

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Been quoted £791 for diagnostic labour and new clutch fitted with labour. RIP.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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S9JTO said:
Fair point, that's probably what I'll do anyway - Just hoping it isn't going to be anywhere near £1k or more like some horror stories I've read from VAG dealers.
Then dont go to a dealer ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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10 years ago Quinton Hazell were supplying clutches with a "lifetime warranty". If it wore out they'd replace the clutch and the labour cost of replacing it. My step father ran a garage at the time and he had more than a few people who'd destroy a clutch in 10k miles or less, and they actually honoured the warranty over and over again.

Sounds like the OP might be a bit rather heavy on clutches - worth seeing if anyone is dopey enough to have such an offer on?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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S9JTO said:
Been quoted £791 for diagnostic labour and new clutch fitted with labour. RIP.
"RIP"? You're going to scrap an 18mo car for a clutch? £800 at dealer prices sounds quite reasonable to me, tbh.

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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Took it to the dealer and couldn't replicate the issue. That was two days ago, drove 150 miles since without replicating... Is a slipping clutch constant? The mechanic told me if it isn't happening all of the time there's no issue but I don't know whether to believe that or not. He tested the 'wear' of the clutch by putting it in gear with the handbrake on and feeling the biting point and said there's loads left...

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
"RIP"? You're going to scrap an 18mo car for a clutch? £800 at dealer prices sounds quite reasonable to me, tbh.
No RIP me, potentially £800 down for no reason.

I don't ride the clutch or drive this car hard constantly, 60% of my 20k miles have been motorway driving... I had a 2015 Ibiza FR which I put over 30k miles on with no issues. An owners group for the 1.8TSI engine Cupra's have ran a questionnaire regarding clutch wear issues and out of 100 people, 32 had problems before 20k miles... Says something.

stevieturbo

17,262 posts

247 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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S9JTO said:
Took it to the dealer and couldn't replicate the issue. That was two days ago, drove 150 miles since without replicating... Is a slipping clutch constant? The mechanic told me if it isn't happening all of the time there's no issue but I don't know whether to believe that or not. He tested the 'wear' of the clutch by putting it in gear with the handbrake on and feeling the biting point and said there's loads left...
So this "dealer" didnt even drive the car ?

Sounds like it'd be better to go to a competent mechanic than a dealer...whatever it is they deal in.

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Sunday 13th May 2018
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stevieturbo said:
S9JTO said:
Took it to the dealer and couldn't replicate the issue. That was two days ago, drove 150 miles since without replicating... Is a slipping clutch constant? The mechanic told me if it isn't happening all of the time there's no issue but I don't know whether to believe that or not. He tested the 'wear' of the clutch by putting it in gear with the handbrake on and feeling the biting point and said there's loads left...
So this "dealer" didnt even drive the car ?

Sounds like it'd be better to go to a competent mechanic than a dealer...whatever it is they deal in.
He sat with me as I tried to replicate the issue for a good few miles, to no avail... I’m going to see if it happens again, if/when it does I’ll go to a local expert for their opinion

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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S9JTO said:
TooMany2cvs said:
"RIP"? You're going to scrap an 18mo car for a clutch? £800 at dealer prices sounds quite reasonable to me, tbh.
No RIP me, potentially £800 down for no reason.
I don't think "RIP" means what you think it does, unless you're planning on killing yourself over this.

S9JTO

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

86 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
I don't think "RIP" means what you think it does, unless you're planning on killing yourself over this.
It's in nowadays, didn't you know? Carry on racking up the posts though, please...