Jet engine parts?

[Not-The-Messiah]

Been on the look out for turbine fan, think it would make a grate bit of wall art. All the ones I've found are either miles away or in still working order so cost a fortune. Anyone have any better places to look or try or is it a case just keep a eye out on eBay?

This is the sort of thing this one is just to far away im in the north west.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROLLS-ROYCE-PEGASUS-JET...

[ndtman]

Hi. Good luck in your search, eBay or any of the military salvage yards should be able to provide. Be warned though, the turbine in the ad you posted is quite heavy. Wouldn't want that ripping a hole in the wall or falling on kids or pets.

[FourWheelDrift]

Some at Everett Aero, no idea on price - https://www.everettaero.com/enginespares.html

[Not-The-Messiah]

ndtman said:

Hi. Good luck in your search, eBay or any of the military salvage yards should be able to provide. Be warned though, the turbine in the ad you posted is quite heavy. Wouldn't want that ripping a hole in the wall or falling on kids or pets.

I'm sure a bit of no more nails will do it,

[Not-The-Messiah]

FourWheelDrift said:

Some at Everett Aero, no idea on price - https://www.everettaero.com/enginespares.html

Thanks for the link but I think that's the place I've found on eBay in Ipswich which is a 8 hour plus round trip for me.

Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Friday 17th January 22:20

[Tony1963]

Nobody can just magic these things up nearer to you. There are very few people doing what Mr Everett does, so you need to travel. Ok, four hours each way is a fair trip, but maybe do something else while down here? Stay overnight and visit Duxford, as an example. Everett is ten miles from me, but that disc wouldn’t fit in my car!

These people are in Stafford. Maybe contact them and see if they can help: http://www.raf-surplus.co.uk/

Edited by Tony1963 on Saturday 18th January 05:59

[yellowjack]

I ordered one once. A blade from a Rolls Royce Spey.


I didn't get it. I (or my boss, anyway) got a strongly worded letter of warning from some RAF Squadron Leader telling us as much. It seems they thought we were ordering it deliberately as some sort of souvenir/presentation piece. What I'd really wanted was the red 'Emergency Stop' button assembly for the bridge launching hydraulics on a BR90 Automotive Bridge Launching Equipment lorry, but a mix up in the NATO stock number codification department at Bicester meant that they'd printed the number wrong in the Illustrated spare Parts List for this vehicle, which was then only just entering service...

[eharding]

yellowjack said:

I ordered one once. A blade from a Rolls Royce Spey.


I didn't get it. I (or my boss, anyway) got a strongly worded letter of warning from some RAF Squadron Leader telling us as much. It seems they thought we were ordering it deliberately as some sort of souvenir/presentation piece. What I'd really wanted was the red 'Emergency Stop' button assembly for the bridge launching hydraulics on a BR90 Automotive Bridge Launching Equipment lorry, but a mix up in the NATO stock number codification department at Bicester meant that they'd printed the number wrong in the Illustrated spare Parts List for this vehicle, which was then only just entering service...

Does this also mean that somewhere there was a thoroughly confused engineer trying to rebuild a Spey, staring at a red '"Emergency Stop" button on the bench and wondering WTF?

[CLX]

There's a place in Selby called Jet Art Aviation that does this sort of thing.

[Yertis]

Tony1963 said:

Ok, four hours each way is a fair trip...

I've done that for speculative meetings lasting < 1 hour

[dr_gn]

How about this place - Peak District?

http://www.jetenginetrader.co.uk/custom-cat/?cat=a...

[J4CKO]

My son worked at Thomas cook and brought me a single blade home from a CFM something or other, all mangled as it had been used to try and liquidize large birds, thought I may take it and hammer it into some open ground on the flightpath near where people walk, would be a talking point

[tuffer]

http://www.vintageaircraftfurniture.co.uk/ I also have one I follow on Twitter but I cannot recall the name at the moment.

[FourWheelDrift]

Have you tried contacting your nearest Air Museums and asking if they have anything in the stores that you could buy from them?

[GliderRider]

It used to be the case that if you stood in the valleys of the Lake District or North Wales and waited, the bits came to you...

A work colleague told me how one of his first, rather macabre, jobs on joining the RAF, was to stand guard at a crash site whilst the 'Crash & Smash' team dug the bits out from near a dam (in North Wales, from what I recall). Someone noticed, up in a tree, a piece of metal which was duly recovered. Sure enough it was a piece of an RAF jet, only it turned out not to be from the crashed aircraft and not even the same type!

[skirk]

Don't know if you are still interested ...but this just popped up...........


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aviation-Clock-Man-Cave...


Cheers

[Not-The-Messiah]

skirk said:

Don't know if you are still interested ...but this just popped up...........


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aviation-Clock-Man-Cave...


Cheers

I am thanks just not got around to it, started doing the bathroom a few weeks ago and it's still not finished that.

[Insurancejon]

Get hold of stuART aviation via insta.

He sells tables and art made from turbine blades cheaper than what you could do it yourself

[dhutch]

yellowjack said:

I ordered one once. A blade from a Rolls Royce Spey.


I didn't get it. I (or my boss, anyway) got a strongly worded letter of warning from some RAF Squadron Leader telling us as much. It seems they thought we were ordering it deliberately as some sort of souvenir/presentation piece. What I'd really wanted was the red 'Emergency Stop' button assembly for the bridge launching hydraulics on a BR90 Automotive Bridge Launching Equipment lorry, but a mix up in the NATO stock number codification department at Bicester meant that they'd printed the number wrong in the Illustrated spare Parts List for this vehicle, which was then only just entering service...

As you do...?

[yellowjack]

dhutch said:

yellowjack said:

I ordered one once. A blade from a Rolls Royce Spey.


I didn't get it. I (or my boss, anyway) got a strongly worded letter of warning from some RAF Squadron Leader telling us as much. It seems they thought we were ordering it deliberately as some sort of souvenir/presentation piece. What I'd really wanted was the red 'Emergency Stop' button assembly for the bridge launching hydraulics on a BR90 Automotive Bridge Launching Equipment lorry, but a mix up in the NATO stock number codification department at Bicester meant that they'd printed the number wrong in the Illustrated spare Parts List for this vehicle, which was then only just entering service...

As you do...?

It happens more frequently than you'd imagine. Early in a vehicle's (military) life, most spares support is "from trade" or warranty support while people and systems bed in. Then the support "from trade" starts to ebb away, and the Defence Logistics Organisation start to come under pressure to "codify" the entire Illustrated Spare Parts List (ISPL) for the new vehicle/equipment. Many items will already be "codified", such as light bulbs, indicator lenses, etc, as well as standard parts like nuts, bolts, and split pins. But anything that is unique to the new equipment will have to be sourced, checked that it matches the manufacturer's specification, then procured and codified into the ISPL. For a complex truck full of hydraulics like BR90, this is a huge list running to thousands of items. A NATO Stock Number (NSN) is a 13 digit code broken down into parts. The last 7 digits is a "unique" identifying number within the section defined by the first 4 digits. What happens is that the error is made in the first 4 digits which corrupts the number. There's also a code on the front of the NSN which should alert the store processing the 'Demand' to any error, but in the computerised era this often gets left out of the 'Demand' leading to confusion.

Example?

1234 - 99 - 567 - 8989
First four digits is the Supply Classification Code. Next two digits is the National Codification Bureau (nationality) code. The last two blocks are not significant, just a "next on the list" number to identify the individual item.

So if the first block, "1234", is two co-dependent parts and is broken down to mean "12 = jet engines" and "34 = turbine blades", and the second block, "99" means it's a UK procurement code, the last two blocks together are one of nearly ten million possible unique items within the jet engine turbine blades section of the UK's military stores accounting system.

The fk-up comes when the first four digits are wrong. Make an error in those first two digits and it puts you into completely the wrong part of the stores ordering system. So if you mis-typed the first two digits as "21" that could put it into "21 = bridging equipment, hydraulic" and the "34" now becomes "34 = safety cut out devices" because it's definition depends upon those first two digits. Now, even if the "unique" non-significant seven digit number is correct, it will yield a different item because the 'Demand' for the spare part is being processed now by the RAF, and not the Army.

In the "olden days" of paper 'Demands' for spares, there would be a prefix code to the NSN, something like "6MT1" . This is the prefix code for a generic MT spare part or accessory, such as the puncture repair kit issued with the old Armstrong 500 motorcycles. Royal Engineers Plant and bridging vehicles always had a "7" in the prefix code, such as "7HD" for the Hydrema 'Light Wheeled Tractor". I've no idea what the prefix codes were for a Phantom, a Nimrod, or a Rolls Royce Spey jet engine, but you get the picture? With the prefix code it's clear that there's been an error elsewhere on the 'demand' form, but when it all gets computerised and automated, the human touch is lost and rejection letters get drafted. I'm pretty sure that in the days of paper demands, the central demand processing office would have taken a second look at the line for the fan blade/stop button, realised there was an error, and have at least telephoned me to query it. Which would have meant the Sqn Leader not being troubled at all, as the demand would never have reached his desk, and would also have meant I'd have got my stop button sooner because either the line could have been amended there and then on the phone, or I would have known earlier that the NSN was incorrect and could have contacted the office supporting that equipment for the correct one sooner. Rather than having to wait for the rejection letter to arrive with the demand cancellation notice, and then being an extra week behind on getting a first line piece of equipment back into operating condition.