Engine overheated and died. Possible to un-seize?

Engine overheated and died. Possible to un-seize?

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stevieturbo

14,879 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th June
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It was fked from the very first post

vtchequers

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323 posts

54 months

Friday 26th June
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It seems the engine is not a seized as I once thought.
Long story short- Tried jumping it with my other car. Positive terminal has oxidation on it. Turned the key and the engine turned around a half revolution and then heard the sound a starter motor makes when a battery is flat, and the speed and rev counter needles went up and down. Not enough juice from the jump car?

xjay1337

15,418 posts

74 months

Friday 26th June
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Please go to a mechanic or provide enough information to accurately (as much as you can!) diagnose over the internet.

It's so frustrating from the side of the "technically knowledgeable" when people randomly post information which is not really helpful.

If it's broken, get a new engine. For it to seize due to over heating it means it's been driven at length and is fked even if when it's cooled it might re-start.

vtchequers

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323 posts

54 months

Friday 26th June
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xjay1337 said:
Please go to a mechanic or provide enough information to accurately (as much as you can!) diagnose over the internet.

It's so frustrating from the side of the "technically knowledgeable" when people randomly post information which is not really helpful.

If it's broken, get a new engine. For it to seize due to over heating it means it's been driven at length and is fked even if when it's cooled it might re-start.
A new/ish engine would cost how many k to have done at a garage?


stevieturbo

14,879 posts

203 months

Friday 26th June
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vtchequers said:
A new/ish engine would cost how many k to have done at a garage?
How long is a piece of string ? And can you find a competent technician to measure that string ?

Or how much is a good working car of the same type actually worth ?

vtchequers

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323 posts

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Friday 26th June
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stevieturbo said:
How long is a piece of string ? And can you find a competent technician to measure that string ?

Or how much is a good working car of the same type actually worth ?
I'd say that piece of string is quite short.
It's a rare car with an even rarer 2.4 engine. I don't think i'd ever find another car of that model.

xjay1337

15,418 posts

74 months

Friday 26th June
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vtchequers said:
I'd say that piece of string is quite short.
It's a rare car with an even rarer 2.4 engine. I don't think i'd ever find another car of that model.
An accord isn't rare. (wild guess).

Evoluzione

3,939 posts

199 months

Saturday 27th June
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It's fked, weigh it in.

HustleRussell

18,065 posts

116 months

Saturday 27th June
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Driven with no coolant until it stops? The engine has had it. The only half way sensible way to put the car back on the road is to have a replacement engine fitted.

stevieturbo

14,879 posts

203 months

Saturday 27th June
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xjay1337 said:
An accord isn't rare. (wild guess).
What's an accord got to do with a Chrysler ?

Really....it sounds like an old vehicle, probably real world limited value. And if he really thinks it's rare....possibly a known good engine will also be rare ( albeit it's probably not that rare )

Sadly all too often threads like this where someone needs an engine replaced by a garage almost always go the same way.
Either the replacement engine is fked, or the garage fks things up, or the engine was sold as the same and was different and everyone involved gets screwed.

Unless you have a known trustworthy and reputable mechanic...which by the fact you're asking silly things here seems unlikely...give up on it. Someone may want it for parts to help cut your losses.
And learn from it and don't drive on next time til everything is destroyed.

sunbeam alpine

5,309 posts

144 months

Saturday 27th June
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vtchequers said:
I'd say that piece of string is quite short.
It's a rare car with an even rarer 2.4 engine. I don't think i'd ever find another car of that model.
Not all bad news then...

smile

dhutch

6,631 posts

153 months

Saturday 27th June
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It would be so much faster just to ask a garage to look at it!

Find somewhere that looks a bit rough, low overhand labour rates, might do part worn tyres in the side, and see what they make of it. It might be saveable but it's super hard to diagnose remotely.

However if you have driven it with the oil and coolant lights on until you got steam the prognosis is not good! That's why they are bright red.

What is the car worth to you? I don't know enough about the Chrysler range, but if they same engine is used in other models, and you can find one on eBay for £200-500ish then it might be worth changing it if it is toast, otherwise unless it's worth £10k+ it might be a write off. But the first port of call is an backstreet garage that undertake inexpensive engine rebuilds.

Daniel

stevieturbo

14,879 posts

203 months

Saturday 27th June
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So find a crap garage doing cash jobs ? I guess the only positive about a very cheap garage, is if they do fk it up, you've lost less money than an expensive one LOL

Hard to know where to go with that one ! lol



HustleRussell

18,065 posts

116 months

Saturday 27th June
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dhutch said:
the first port of call is an backstreet garage that undertake inexpensive engine rebuilds.
[shudder]

NoAlternator

2 posts

12 months

Saturday 27th June
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I often find myself wondering, how many of these threads are someone having a total wind up.

Boosted LS1

19,113 posts

216 months

Saturday 27th June
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Steady fellah. Don't go wild with your posting.

stevieturbo

14,879 posts

203 months

Saturday 27th June
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NoAlternator said:
I often find myself wondering, how many of these threads are someone having a total wind up.
I wonder if any are genuine at all these days.

sunbeam alpine

5,309 posts

144 months

Saturday 27th June
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stevieturbo said:
NoAlternator said:
I often find myself wondering, how many of these threads are someone having a total wind up.
I wonder if any are genuine at all these days.
The most depressing fact is that the genuine appeals for help attract few responses.

vtchequers

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323 posts

54 months

Saturday 27th June
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stevieturbo said:
What's an accord got to do with a Chrysler ?

Really....it sounds like an old vehicle, probably real world limited value. And if he really thinks it's rare....possibly a known good engine will also be rare ( albeit it's probably not that rare )

Sadly all too often threads like this where someone needs an engine replaced by a garage almost always go the same way.
Either the replacement engine is fked, or the garage fks things up, or the engine was sold as the same and was different and everyone involved gets screwed.

Unless you have a known trustworthy and reputable mechanic...which by the fact you're asking silly things here seems unlikely...give up on it. Someone may want it for parts to help cut your losses.
And learn from it and don't drive on next time til everything is destroyed.
It is an old Voyager Startech (04) 2.4 CRD. I don't think they put the 2.4 in the other Voyagers.
I can't find a 2.4 anywhere for this car. I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.

HustleRussell

18,065 posts

116 months

Saturday 27th June
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vtchequers said:
I think my only option would be to have the pistons and sleeves replaced.
Yes because that would completely fix the engine laugh