Engine overheated and died. Possible to un-seize?

Engine overheated and died. Possible to un-seize?

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Boosted LS1

21,189 posts

261 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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How many mph is that?

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Boosted LS1 said:
How many mph is that?
Quicker to walk!

stevieturbo

17,275 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Wait another 12 years and it might fix itself.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Currently it's gaining 40rpm a month, at that rate it only needs another 120 or so months, ten years. I wonder if the rate of self repair will be linear?

vtchequers

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354 posts

99 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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dhutch said:
Currently it's gaining 40rpm a month, at that rate it only needs another 120 or so months, ten years. I wonder if the rate of self repair will be linear?
i've tried starting it four times so far!



dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Maybe increasing the number of attempts will increase self-healing? Or maybe it's like a kettle, whee the more you look at it the long it takes.

Alternatively, take it to a garage who might actually be able to fix it before you add starter motor to the new parts it needs!

stevieturbo

17,275 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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It should've been scrapped already

toast boy

1,242 posts

227 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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I can't believe this is still going on!

OP - when you said you were going to fix it yourself, did you mean swapping for another engine or rebuilding the one you have? Have you done the maths?

I know you said you weren't keen on getting another car as it may have problems but you can mitigate a lot of that by thoroughly checking it over and doing a bit of research. There's no guarantee that you fix the engine on your current car and it doesn't break somewhere else...

vtchequers

Original Poster:

354 posts

99 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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toast boy said:
I can't believe this is still going on!

OP - when you said you were going to fix it yourself, did you mean swapping for another engine or rebuilding the one you have? Have you done the maths?

I know you said you weren't keen on getting another car as it may have problems but you can mitigate a lot of that by thoroughly checking it over and doing a bit of research. There's no guarantee that you fix the engine on your current car and it doesn't break somewhere else...
I'm still undecided on what to do. I'd like to save it from the scrap yard but i'm not going to pay out loads on it.
I'm thinking the oil pump isn't faulty and the engine never fully locked. If the oil pump was faulty, surely the pistons would've been destroyed and there would be no compression when I attempt to start it?
I would rebuild it myself but it's due its MOT on the 11 of August. Time is running out.

stevieturbo

17,275 posts

248 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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Boosted LS1

21,189 posts

261 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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All it needs is some vaseline, tlc and maybe some copperslip to free it up. After it's been run for maybe 20 mins a fresh oil change and filter should see it sorted. Run it in around the block a few times and increase distance gradually. Top up coolants etc. Then do some higher speeds on local dual carriageways but stay close to home. Jobs a goodun.

vtchequers

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354 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Boosted LS1 said:
All it needs is some vaseline, tlc and maybe some copperslip to free it up. After it's been run for maybe 20 mins a fresh oil change and filter should see it sorted. Run it in around the block a few times and increase distance gradually. Top up coolants etc. Then do some higher speeds on local dual carriageways but stay close to home. Jobs a goodun.
I was thinking;

Refit charged battery and turn engine and see if there's any more improvement.
Take out injectors and remove fuel pump fuse and pour down some diesel and turn engine and see if there's any improvement.
Leave it to sit for a few days and pray.





HustleRussell

24,748 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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vtchequers said:
Boosted LS1 said:
All it needs is some vaseline, tlc and maybe some copperslip to free it up. After it's been run for maybe 20 mins a fresh oil change and filter should see it sorted. Run it in around the block a few times and increase distance gradually. Top up coolants etc. Then do some higher speeds on local dual carriageways but stay close to home. Jobs a goodun.
I was thinking;

Refit charged battery and turn engine and see if there's any more improvement.
Take out injectors and remove fuel pump fuse and pour down some diesel and turn engine and see if there's any improvement.
Leave it to sit for a few days and pray.
He's taking the piss, your engine is still terminally fked as everybody agreed a month ago.

paintman

7,698 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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HustleRussell said:
vtchequers said:
Boosted LS1 said:
All it needs is some vaseline, tlc and maybe some copperslip to free it up. After it's been run for maybe 20 mins a fresh oil change and filter should see it sorted. Run it in around the block a few times and increase distance gradually. Top up coolants etc. Then do some higher speeds on local dual carriageways but stay close to home. Jobs a goodun.
I was thinking;

Refit charged battery and turn engine and see if there's any more improvement.
Take out injectors and remove fuel pump fuse and pour down some diesel and turn engine and see if there's any improvement.
Leave it to sit for a few days and pray.
He's taking the piss, your engine is still terminally fked as everybody agreed a month ago.
You could try it. If you do don't forget to film it as you start it up. If it lets go in a spectacular fashion you might get £250 from Harry Hill's YBF.

vtchequers

Original Poster:

354 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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It would have no reason to let go.

vtchequers

Original Poster:

354 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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HustleRussell said:
He's taking the piss, your engine is still terminally fked as everybody agreed a month ago.
Most of the thread consists of "taking the piss."

Zener

18,966 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Well you've got some educated opinions from posters that I regard as "Knowing their stuff" so that tells you what? rolleyes

toast boy

1,242 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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A few people are taking the piss but to be fair I think it's because you seem to be unwilling to listen to sensible advice.

In the interest of not taking the piss:

Just to recap - your coolant disappeared and your oil light was on indicating lack of pressure. You said there was oil in the sump.

These facts alone suggest that you have got quite a serious problem and it sounds like you don't have enormous technical knowledge so I would be concerned that you my find it very difficult to diagnose the actual problem never mind fix it.

The engine absolutely will not have fixed itself so whatever incremental improvements you think may have happened in the past weeks do not mean that it's fine. There will be a lot of cost, effort or both in fixing this. In weighing up the possible costs and benefits there is almost no scenario where it would make sense to repair this car. I'm sorry, but look at it dispassionately and act accordingly.


HustleRussell

24,748 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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vtchequers said:
HustleRussell said:
He's taking the piss, your engine is still terminally fked as everybody agreed a month ago.
Most of the thread consists of "taking the piss."
I think you're taking the piss to be honest.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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toast boy said:
A few people are taking the piss but to be fair I think it's because you seem to be unwilling to listen to sensible advice.

In the interest of not taking the piss:

Just to recap - your coolant disappeared and your oil light was on indicating lack of pressure. You said there was oil in the sump.

These facts alone suggest that you have got quite a serious problem and it sounds like you don't have enormous technical knowledge so I would be concerned that you my find it very difficult to diagnose the actual problem never mind fix it.

The engine absolutely will not have fixed itself so whatever incremental improvements you think may have happened in the past weeks do not mean that it's fine. There will be a lot of cost, effort or both in fixing this. In weighing up the possible costs and benefits there is almost no scenario where it would make sense to repair this car. I'm sorry, but look at it dispassionately and act accordingly.
This, something serious broke, the engine lost oil pressure and coolant, they it carries on toll it was seized. Only if it was something unobtainable would you even consider drawing up a repair list. You don't have the skills to swap it let alone repair it, as you have said.

This engine is toast.

Therefore it's boils down to, as I have said before, if you can find someone who can put a used engine from a crashed or mot failure car into your car, for less than the resulting repaired car is worth.

Daniel