ecotek filters
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avance70 said:
and i thought some people might appreciate a first hand experience...
I have plenty of experience of air leaks thanks, theyre ALWAYS BAD!
The fact that you paid out 45 sovs for the privelige.....the mind boggles! pssssst! Anyone wanna buy some rocking horse droppings or a handy skirting board ladder?
please believe me that i have nothing to do with ecotek... well visit my page... http://avance70.tripod.com/ youll see that i am a regular student, enjoy starcraft and make music... no affiliation with ecotek whatsoever!
and because it can be turned on and off easily, i am able to feel the difference, unbiased!
and isnt it logical that someone made up a device that when fitted to a 15 year old engine desingns, actually makes it go better?
and because it can be turned on and off easily, i am able to feel the difference, unbiased!
and isnt it logical that someone made up a device that when fitted to a 15 year old engine desingns, actually makes it go better?
theexcession said:
pssssst! Anyone wanna buy some rocking horse droppings or a handy skirting board ladder?
I have some brass magnets and a long stand going spare if anyone's interested...
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Ex
Nah thanks matey, someone tried to sell me a bag of sparks the other week, but i told em as id just bought tower bridge of some guy in the street, i was a bit short on cash......
avance70 said:
i cant believe how stupid i am... i actually started believing thats all in my head.
i just went out (i know its 3am) to take my car for a spin, and after a few minutes i turned the ecotec off (it takes 10 seconds) and it felt like i picked up two hitchhikers!
Ok. Heres a clue for you: If you introduce an air leak into what appears to be a perfectly running vehicle (YOURS) and it "seems" to run better, pull harder and give better fuel economy, then what would you conclude based on the above facts?
A) Air leaks on apparently perfectly running engines are good.
B)Engine may NOT be running "perfectly" as the air leak improved your car.
C)Taking the vehicle to a garage for repair based on the above observations might be a necessary thing to do based on (B).
D) Give a glowing endorsement of a quack product based on your unscientific observations.
Please READ and understand what ive put. Im NOT trying to put you down, im trying to save your wallet AND get your car put to rights.
Looking back on your previous threads I get the impression that you have an extremely open mind about many of these aftermarket gadgets, and also that you have relatively little understanding of how an engine works.
In particular (and I'm referring to comments you've made on other threads not just this one) I wouldn't expect a new air filter to make any difference to fuel economy, I wouldn't expect an engine oil change to make the engine run any smoother, and I wouldn't expect an air leak to make any noticeable difference to behaviour under full throttle.
Now, maybe you're just lucky that all these things work for you despite everything that engineering common sense says to the contrary, and you're so well tuned in to the car that you are able to notice subtle improvements that other people would miss. Or maybe you're suffering from the placebo effect and convincing yourself that there is an improvement because you're expecting one. Or maybe you just like to have something to chat about. I don't know but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you actually have done these things and genuinely believe they had the effects you report.
However, your claims for this gadget don't have a great deal of credibility and frankly I don't accept that it does what you say.
In particular (and I'm referring to comments you've made on other threads not just this one) I wouldn't expect a new air filter to make any difference to fuel economy, I wouldn't expect an engine oil change to make the engine run any smoother, and I wouldn't expect an air leak to make any noticeable difference to behaviour under full throttle.
Now, maybe you're just lucky that all these things work for you despite everything that engineering common sense says to the contrary, and you're so well tuned in to the car that you are able to notice subtle improvements that other people would miss. Or maybe you're suffering from the placebo effect and convincing yourself that there is an improvement because you're expecting one. Or maybe you just like to have something to chat about. I don't know but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you actually have done these things and genuinely believe they had the effects you report.
However, your claims for this gadget don't have a great deal of credibility and frankly I don't accept that it does what you say.
Must admit that I still can't decide if avance70 is an excitable PFY trying genuinely trying to gain some knowledge and experience or if he's just some old timer having a larf. At least he's not actually trolling so I remain uncertain.
Have to say though that the level of expertise and knowledge contained in these hallowed pages never ceases to amaze me.
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Ex
Have to say though that the level of expertise and knowledge contained in these hallowed pages never ceases to amaze me.
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Ex
the car, it has been regulary serviced by previous owner, and i was even better to it, three years, three complete service checks... all sparks, fluids, oil filter, petrol filter and exhaust are practically new, also recently replaced are the alternator, servo pump, servo bar, the battery... the car NEVER broke down, if you dont count one or two lights
i dunno guys, i just proved you the car runs better...
if you dont beleive me, some of your neighbors probably have it, so go on and test it with and without the ecotek
i dunno guys, i just proved you the car runs better...
if you dont beleive me, some of your neighbors probably have it, so go on and test it with and without the ecotek
Is'nt like like the Power Boost vaule i wrote about? looks very simular.
In all seriousness, and i know you prob dont wanna hear it. But for a 1.2 if you want power all i would do is get 0.40 Full synthetic oil, im not sure of the effect it would have on ur car but i noticed the difference on my 1.6.
Most engine mods (affordable) would sap your BHP or responsiveness as it did mine, i asked about the K&N induction kit and was told i prob kill of a few BHP for the expense of a meaty growl. I fitted it and you peeps where right.
>> Edited by Focusowner on Tuesday 28th June 15:46
In all seriousness, and i know you prob dont wanna hear it. But for a 1.2 if you want power all i would do is get 0.40 Full synthetic oil, im not sure of the effect it would have on ur car but i noticed the difference on my 1.6.
Most engine mods (affordable) would sap your BHP or responsiveness as it did mine, i asked about the K&N induction kit and was told i prob kill of a few BHP for the expense of a meaty growl. I fitted it and you peeps where right.
>> Edited by Focusowner on Tuesday 28th June 15:46
avance70 said:
i just went out (i know its 3am) to take my car for a spin, and after a few minutes i turned the ecotec off (it takes 10 seconds) and it felt like i picked up two hitchhikers!
and i repeated it this day, all day long. it works, i dont know how else can i make you believe?
>> Edited by avance70 on Tuesday 28th June 20:11
avance70 said:
i just went out (i know its 3am) to take my car for a spin, and after a few minutes i turned the ecotec off (it takes 10 seconds) and it felt like i picked up two hitchhikers!
and i repeated it this day, all day long. it works, i dont know how else can i make you believe?
>> Edited by avance70 on Tuesday 28th June 20:11
Stick it on a rolling road without the ecotek, then repeat with the ecotek.
Frankly it's a load of bull. Anyone who believes their car runs better with an Ecotek probably believes in flying saucers and little green men. I think they are as likely to exist as the claimed improvemenst in performance.
To suggest Ecotek is new technology which car manufacturers do not have is to suggest they also don't care that consumers are concerned about fuel economy. Tell that to Ford or BMW..or Honda..
The words "fool some of the people ..etc" spring readily to mind. Next they will be selling us petrol/oil additives which make our cars run faster and last longer...like STP etc..
I think the blind faith in some products is very touching: as touching as believing that politicians never tell lies..
To suggest Ecotek is new technology which car manufacturers do not have is to suggest they also don't care that consumers are concerned about fuel economy. Tell that to Ford or BMW..or Honda..
The words "fool some of the people ..etc" spring readily to mind. Next they will be selling us petrol/oil additives which make our cars run faster and last longer...like STP etc..
I think the blind faith in some products is very touching: as touching as believing that politicians never tell lies..
Advance, I'm not picking through or anything, but whats a servo pump and a servo bar?
If it's right that the car in question is a small capacity clio, doesn't the brake servo take it's vacuum feed directly off the inlet manifold?
I had this very same battle with my elder and now somewhat quieter brother after he installed one of these widgets on his 2.0 mondeo.
Extensive testing by myself using datalogging equipment and a dyno proved it to be nothing more than a comedy device as it sounded like a gurgling plug hole.
Result, It's now taken up residence at the bottom of the shropshire union canal, where in years to come it'll be found and folk will ponder the industrial revolution and the rise of w@nk tuning products and smile.
If it's right that the car in question is a small capacity clio, doesn't the brake servo take it's vacuum feed directly off the inlet manifold?
I had this very same battle with my elder and now somewhat quieter brother after he installed one of these widgets on his 2.0 mondeo.
Extensive testing by myself using datalogging equipment and a dyno proved it to be nothing more than a comedy device as it sounded like a gurgling plug hole.
Result, It's now taken up residence at the bottom of the shropshire union canal, where in years to come it'll be found and folk will ponder the industrial revolution and the rise of w@nk tuning products and smile.
uh i dont really know the translation for those words but ill do my best:
servo pump - thats the pump that pumps the servo oil (atf) to the servo bar (greases it)
servo bar - well thats the... bar that coordinates movement of your front wheels with steering
please tell me whats their "real" english name
servo pump - thats the pump that pumps the servo oil (atf) to the servo bar (greases it)
servo bar - well thats the... bar that coordinates movement of your front wheels with steering
please tell me whats their "real" english name
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