A DPF thread. New DPF fitted, car will not recognise it.

A DPF thread. New DPF fitted, car will not recognise it.

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Muldoonsghost

Original Poster:

22 posts

35 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Chris32345 said:
Try UK injector and glowplug removal
I have spoken to them but they're a long way from me. I have someone much closer now, but thanks.

Muldoonsghost

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22 posts

35 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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You can't make it up.

The car has been at a workshop for a little over a week and they have just called. Remember, the error diagnosed by the ecu was number 2 glow plug open circuit.

Number 2 plug has been replaced with no need to drill. New plug is fitted. The PGM-F1 light is STILL on.

All glow plugs measured on an ohms meter. All 5 (including the new and old one that is) measure the same within tolerance reading. Powered up outside of the vehicle the old number 2 plug behaves as if new.

Wiring from plugs to a sensor / control unit / something have been checked and look good.

The control unit is unavailable from Honda. Would have been £90 or so but it is not a backorder item, it is totally unavailable!

I doubt if anyone is still reading here but fk ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









shakindog

489 posts

151 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Honda can be a pain in neck for this.
Try second hand from a breakers.
I had a similar issue with an accord type r exhaust off side box available near side not in stock or production anymore. But odd spurious bits available and on the shelf.

I also found lings Honda on line site useful may help for any bits in the future

stevieturbo

17,268 posts

248 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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Muldoonsghost said:
You can't make it up.

The car has been at a workshop for a little over a week and they have just called. Remember, the error diagnosed by the ecu was number 2 glow plug open circuit.

Number 2 plug has been replaced with no need to drill. New plug is fitted. The PGM-F1 light is STILL on.

All glow plugs measured on an ohms meter. All 5 (including the new and old one that is) measure the same within tolerance reading. Powered up outside of the vehicle the old number 2 plug behaves as if new.

Wiring from plugs to a sensor / control unit / something have been checked and look good.

The control unit is unavailable from Honda. Would have been £90 or so but it is not a backorder item, it is totally unavailable!

I doubt if anyone is still reading here but fk ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What control unit are you replacing if you say the control unit is all good ?

Why are they not checking the glow plugs on the vehicle as installed as well ? Just scope current for each which will verify operation and the control for them although an external visual test comparing all of them is ok althouygh a lot of modern plugs you should not connect directly to a battery, at least not for any length of time. Did they just look at number 2 ?

As for the light, what codes are now present after the new glow plug and resetting all the codes.?


Edited by stevieturbo on Saturday 17th July 09:08

stevieturbo

17,268 posts

248 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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A very quick and basic test anyone can do requiring no removal etc. Although wiring won't always be as easy to access as their video lol But certainly easier than removing them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl1kfKUvCt4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roOmZp6TyVk






Edited by stevieturbo on Saturday 17th July 09:17

Castleman85

1 posts

24 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Hi @Muldoonsghost

I have EXACTLY the same issue, the PGM-FI Glowplug warning and the DPF regen issue after comprehensive cleaning.

Did you ever get it fixed with the new glowplugs / control unit?


Muldoonsghost

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22 posts

35 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Afternoon Castleman.

In my case the fault was finally diagnosed as a faulty fuel injector. The injector was jammed open, so it was pouring diesel into the cylinder. This was cooling the cylinder and the glow plug it seems, making the glow plug read an error. I had the set of injectors replaced and bang, all faults cleared and the car was running like out of the factory! I spent money on a new DPF that wasn't needed, lots of DPF cleaning, diagnoses, replacing sensors... including at a Honda MAIN DEALER and it was a little back street company that sorted it. I ended up wasting as much money as the car was worth in the end.

In your case it may be the same, maybe not, but this was my result. I wish you luck.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

51 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Seems to be a known problem and a recall was issued.
https://dieselparticulatefilters2u.co.uk/img/cms/c...