Timing belt/camshaft issue
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I think any contempt is well deserved.
Any professional would read a guide or manual before attacking a new engine.
So would any sensible amateur.
To simply stick a screwdriver in a pulley and start undoing whatever nuts and bolts you see is utter stupidity.
To then take to the internet, tell everyone what you did and still not read a manual is a step beyond even that as is suggesting 'everyone has done it'.
In this day and age with all the information we have access to there is no excuse to not know many things. If it isn't readily available then ask.
Don't f
k it up and then ask why you fked it up, then complain when the bleedin' obvious is pointed out to you.
It's quite obvious why that happened.
Learn from it, don't bleat on about hard done by you feel.
Any professional would read a guide or manual before attacking a new engine.
So would any sensible amateur.
To simply stick a screwdriver in a pulley and start undoing whatever nuts and bolts you see is utter stupidity.
To then take to the internet, tell everyone what you did and still not read a manual is a step beyond even that as is suggesting 'everyone has done it'.
In this day and age with all the information we have access to there is no excuse to not know many things. If it isn't readily available then ask.
Don't f
k it up and then ask why you fked it up, then complain when the bleedin' obvious is pointed out to you.It's quite obvious why that happened.
Learn from it, don't bleat on about hard done by you feel.
Vagabondrobb said:
For what it's worth, I've swapped engines, changed clutches and gearboxes and all sorts of exciting things over the past 15 years, and saved a lot of money in doing so. It's also (mostly) fun and I like getting my hands dirty. I may have more or less fked my engine but I've walked away having learned about timing and camshafts, which is evidentially a part of a car I have neglected for too long.
Again thank you to all who have given advice. On a side note though, I've also gotten some contempt on this thread, which is actually totally fine, because it has reminded me why I sacked off social media all those years ago. Cheers!
You do need a thick skin sometimes, so welcome to the club for lesser beings, as we all strive to be as perfect as Evoluzione. ked my engine but I've walked away having learned about timing and camshafts, which is evidentially a part of a car I have neglected for too long. Again thank you to all who have given advice. On a side note though, I've also gotten some contempt on this thread, which is actually totally fine, because it has reminded me why I sacked off social media all those years ago. Cheers!
Let's be fair...is it contempt, or a reality check ?
Doing what was done, was a very very rookie mistake. Not something someone contemplating doing a timing belt should ever really have happen.
But it has been an expensive learning curve.
Hopefully a cost effective solution can be found whether it's a new engine, or pull head off it. Bare in mind, more tools/skills will be required to replace the engine, as likely things like injectors may need coded to your ecu.
A replacement head, repair of existing, or an engine....there will be multiple options, pro's and cons either way.
Doing what was done, was a very very rookie mistake. Not something someone contemplating doing a timing belt should ever really have happen.
But it has been an expensive learning curve.
Hopefully a cost effective solution can be found whether it's a new engine, or pull head off it. Bare in mind, more tools/skills will be required to replace the engine, as likely things like injectors may need coded to your ecu.
A replacement head, repair of existing, or an engine....there will be multiple options, pro's and cons either way.
NMNeil said:
You do need a thick skin sometimes, so welcome to the club for lesser beings, as we all strive to be as perfect as Evoluzione.
Still you don't get the point. It isn't perfection, it's common sense.Anyone with it does not attack an engine damaging operation without reading a manual first.
If you don't get that you belong in some kind of institution.
Evoluzione said:
NMNeil said:
You do need a thick skin sometimes, so welcome to the club for lesser beings, as we all strive to be as perfect as Evoluzione.
Still you don't get the point. It isn't perfection, it's common sense.Anyone with it does not attack an engine damaging operation without reading a manual first.
If you don't get that you belong in some kind of institution.
Jeff J said:
Sorry to resurrect this thread, I've only just read it.
Is this the Peugeot 2litre HDI engine ?
If it is, it is designed to break the cam followers, rather than bending the valves when they strike the pistons.
Hi, yes the 2.0d is the same engine - also same as the ford 2.0 Tdci I think. Is this the Peugeot 2litre HDI engine ?
If it is, it is designed to break the cam followers, rather than bending the valves when they strike the pistons.
Interesting . I haven’t had a chance to investigate the engine yet - I swapped it for a used one so it’s just sat in the barn where I lifted it. Bloody job getting it out.
Jeff J said:
Sorry to resurrect this thread, I've only just read it.
Is this the Peugeot 2litre HDI engine ?
If it is, it is designed to break the cam followers, rather than bending the valves when they strike the pistons.
Interesting, I had not heard of sacrificial followers but that makes mechanical design sense. I had though that it was a valve bent but because of the amount of negative reply’s and Evo’s intent to berate the OP I stood silent.Is this the Peugeot 2litre HDI engine ?
If it is, it is designed to break the cam followers, rather than bending the valves when they strike the pistons.
I have done a lot of work on my many cars, building up to full bare block engine builds, I read manuals, watch videos, buy the correct tools (usually after struggling with out them for a bit) and on occasions I make mistakes, we learn by them and no amount of negative comments will be as bad as how you personally feel about your mistakes. For me the extra cost is punishment enough so OP don’t loose heart, investigate the fault with the engine but it sounds like just a new follower and proper cam timing would fix the problem then you’ll have a spare engine…
valves striking pistons is never ideal and best avoided regardless of engine design anything to counter that argument is just plain daft in engineering terms 
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