Methanol alternative.

[marT350T]

Is there anything else you can add to the water apart from methanol in a water injection system ?

[stevieturbo]

methanol is the best....

Why would you seek a lesser alternative.

Anything that contains methanol/alcohol type products would be useable. some screen washes contain some, some people use methylated spirits etc....but they arent as good.

[chuntington101]

i think the newer M3 alky is the best. its not as corrosive as the M1 stuff.

Chris.

[marT350T]

chuntington101 said:

i think the newer M3 alky is the best. its not as corrosive as the M1 stuff.

Chris.

What is M3 alky ?

[DrDeAtH]

ethyl alcohol screenwash would do it.. just need to find the right brand that contains it.

[chuntington101]

marT350T said:

chuntington101 said:

i think the newer M3 alky is the best. its not as corrosive as the M1 stuff.

Chris.

What is M3 alky ?

its a newer version of methanol you can buy. i hear form the US gusy thats its alot less corosive than the M1 stuff. i will try and find some more info for you.

Chris.

[marT350T]

chuntington101 said:

marT350T said:

chuntington101 said:

i think the newer M3 alky is the best. its not as corrosive as the M1 stuff.

Chris.

What is M3 alky ?

its a newer version of methanol you can buy. i hear form the US gusy thats its alot less corosive than the M1 stuff. i will try and find some more info for you.

Chris.

Cheers

[Flying Toilet]

Just use normal Methanol and call Jeff Bull or the like for some alky lube. Stops all corrosion and keeps everything nice and clean.

[It's fixable...]

Just like Dan says, you can buy the methanol in 5L, 25L or 205L quantities from most chemical suppliers, just check out yellow pages.

Most chemical suppliers are cagey about supplying to private individuals and it's easiest to buy it through your employer and tell the chemical supplier you're using it as a cleaning solvent or degreaser. When sold as a fuel or additive for an internal combustion engine they are obliged to charge duty accordingly.

[e-mail] can supply the lubricant additive that decreases the abrasiveness of the methanol that leads to serious and accelerated scratching of the bores and degredation of the ring pack.

Just remember that Alcohol is hydroscopic just like brake fluid and unless it is stored correctly it will soon take up enough moisture from the atmosphere to make it unusable.

Depending on the amount of alcohol you're introducing to the fuel mix you may need to play around with ignition timing as alcohol burns slower than petrol and you may need to adjust plug gap and heat range.

With high percentages of alcohol it is wise to learn how to read the plugs after each thrash down the quarter mile as an aid to tuning decisions.
This link is to an excellent primer http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticles/reading-spar... credit to Mike Canter

[marT350T]

I have now got some methanol and are runing a miw of 40% meth and 60% water.

I have just had my car rolling roaded and a customer said that his car used to make another 30ish ft/lbs of torque when he used his aquamist system with the same mix as mine.
Can that happen ?

[stevieturbo]

marT350T said:

I have now got some methanol and are runing a miw of 40% meth and 60% water.

I have just had my car rolling roaded and a customer said that his car used to make another 30ish ft/lbs of torque when he used his aquamist system with the same mix as mine.
Can that happen ?

compared to what mix ? what car ? is it n/a or boosted ?

Such gains are possible....of course some cars might gain nothing.

[chuntington101]

marT350T said:

I have now got some methanol and are runing a miw of 40% meth and 60% water.

I have just had my car rolling roaded and a customer said that his car used to make another 30ish ft/lbs of torque when he used his aquamist system with the same mix as mine.
Can that happen ?

on your motor mate that sounds posable as lonmg as you have a little tunning to take advantage of the increased dept resistance.

by the way have you decided if your getting the motor built or not?? have you had chance to take it out recently with all this cr*py weather??

thanks Chris.

[marT350T]

These gains were after using meth water mix compare to not running any water injection at all.

I think the engine rebuild will be over the winter if I can pull together some cash.

Havent really drove her much cos of the westher but I took it for a rolling road session yesterday and she mangaged just over 300 bhp/ 290 is ft/lb at the wheels with one tyre slipping and smoking like hell.

So looking out for a LSD first

[love machine]

You could try acetone (Higher dHv) but it would knacker any plastic in there.

Before anyone slates me, acetone was an old race fuel additive.

[Boosted LS1]

love machine said:

You could try acetone (Higher dHv) but it would knacker any plastic in there.

Before anyone slates me, acetone was an old race fuel additive.

Bet it smells really good to. I used to get a fix on 2 stroke oil

Boosted.

[Flying Toilet]

Boosted LS1 said:

love machine said:

You could try acetone (Higher dHv) but it would knacker any plastic in there.

Before anyone slates me, acetone was an old race fuel additive.

Bet it smells really good to. I used to get a fix on 2 stroke oil

Boosted.

Acetone also makes methanol burn easier too in cold conditions.

Mart: check all the pipework and fittings the methanol passes through. It can chalk up and corrode fittings easily.

Also clear the nozzles with WD after use as injectors can get gunked up with solidified methanol.

[marT350T]

Cheers for the advice

[VYT]

love machine said:

You could try acetone (Higher dHv) but it would knacker any plastic in there.

Before anyone slates me, acetone was an old race fuel additive.

I ran my moped on acetone once, just to see what would happen, ran rather well.