Engine conversion Peugeot 205
Discussion
I’m going for a Jap engine mainly because it’s something that has never been done never done before. You know, it’s all about being unique
I’d love to make it RWD but I think I’m asking for too much there.
Which between the B16B and the 20 valve 4AGE will likely be the easier conversion?
Thanks
I’d love to make it RWD but I think I’m asking for too much there.
Which between the B16B and the 20 valve 4AGE will likely be the easier conversion?
Thanks
hybrid said:
I’m going for a Jap engine mainly because it’s something that has never been done never done before. You know, it’s all about being unique
I’d love to make it RWD but I think I’m asking for too much there.
Which between the B16B and the 20 valve 4AGE will likely be the easier conversion?
Thanks
Well i know of a 2.2 VTEC in a 309 so its not that unique, and its a much better engine than a little 1.3(?) with a hairdryer.I’d love to make it RWD but I think I’m asking for too much there.
Which between the B16B and the 20 valve 4AGE will likely be the easier conversion?
Thanks
well , would go for the b16b. there bomb proof, and simple and easy to work on, 200hp+ out of a starlet requires a lot of work and also generates alot of torque, in a light fwd car torque is not want you want. the b16b on the other hand will produce 200hp+ pretty much out of the box, with a sensible amount of torque. it will rev to 9000rpm reliable.
there was a rwd 205 on ebay this week (Item number: 290192281963) and as you can see a lot of it be fabricated, so a bit of work would be required.
never worked with a 4AGE so i can't comment on it.
there was a rwd 205 on ebay this week (Item number: 290192281963) and as you can see a lot of it be fabricated, so a bit of work would be required.
never worked with a 4AGE so i can't comment on it.
mdm123 said:
well , would go for the b16b. there bomb proof, and simple and easy to work on, 200hp+ out of a starlet requires a lot of work and also generates alot of torque, in a light fwd car torque is not want you want. the b16b on the other hand will produce 200hp+ pretty much out of the box, with a sensible amount of torque. it will rev to 9000rpm reliable.
there was a rwd 205 on ebay this week (Item number: 290192281963) and as you can see a lot of it be fabricated, so a bit of work would be required.
never worked with a 4AGE so i can't comment on it.
one of the guys that work on PPC runs a 306 with a b16 engine i think (its a 1.8type R engine). runs really well for him.there was a rwd 205 on ebay this week (Item number: 290192281963) and as you can see a lot of it be fabricated, so a bit of work would be required.
never worked with a 4AGE so i can't comment on it.
Chris.
mdm123 said:
the b16b on the other hand will produce 200hp+ pretty much out of the box, with a sensible amount of torque. it will rev to 9000rpm reliable.
A b16b(as found in the EK9 Type R) will not produce 200 out of the box, more like 180ish bhp assuming good condition and the decent fuel octane. They are rated at 185ps in Japan assuming 100 octane fuel.Marf said:
mdm123 said:
the b16b on the other hand will produce 200hp+ pretty much out of the box, with a sensible amount of torque. it will rev to 9000rpm reliable.
A b16b(as found in the EK9 Type R) will not produce 200 out of the box, more like 180ish bhp assuming good condition and the decent fuel octane. They are rated at 185ps in Japan assuming 100 octane fuel.mdm123 said:
Marf said:
Bolt on's such as?
low pressure forced induction. either a turbo or a supercharger, if your going to the length of constructing new engine mounts and such things throwing a turbo or supercharger onto a b series engine would be to taxingTo do forced induction well on a b16 the first thing you want to do is ignore the cheap £500 kits on ebay. To do it properly is gonna cost you about 2k in bits by the time you've bought forged rods, pistons, ARP bits, metal gasket, hondata, manifold, turbo etc etc. Ideally the block wants re-lining if you want reliability out of it too.
Marf said:
To do forced induction well on a b16 the first thing you want to do is ignore the cheap £500 kits on ebay. To do it properly is gonna cost you about 2k in bits by the time you've bought forged rods, pistons, ARP bits, metal gasket, hondata, manifold, turbo etc etc. Ideally the block wants re-lining if you want reliability out of it too.
Perhaps on a B16a, but I'd be wary of adding even low blow on a B16b given its increased compression ratio over the b16a.
What kind of fuel management would you be expecting to be using on a £400 conversion? Not some dodgy rising rate pressure regulator I'd hope? What about the ignition map?
Theres a hell of a lot more to a reliable forced induction setup on a Honda, £400 IMO would build you a grenade engine.
The old axiom comes to mind:
Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Pick two.
What kind of fuel management would you be expecting to be using on a £400 conversion? Not some dodgy rising rate pressure regulator I'd hope? What about the ignition map?
Theres a hell of a lot more to a reliable forced induction setup on a Honda, £400 IMO would build you a grenade engine.
The old axiom comes to mind:
Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Pick two.
Edited by Marf on Friday 28th December 16:33
Marf said:
Perhaps on a B16a, but I'd be wary of adding even low blow on a B16b given its increased compression ratio over the b16a.
it's still fit to take a small amount of boost, personal i would have started with a b16a and not a b16bEdited by Marf on Friday 28th December 16:31
Marf said:
What kind of fuel management would you be expecting to be using on a £400 conversion? Not some dodgy rising rate pressure regulator I'd hope? What about the ignition map?
a fuel press reg would do fine, far from ideal, but never the less it will work.Edited by Marf on Friday 28th December 16:31
my point is it can be done. so stop trying to tell me it can't or picking holes in, because it been done many a time.
Marf said:
Theres a hell of a lot more to a reliable forced induction setup on a Honda, £400 IMO would build you a grenade engine.
The old axiom comes to mind:
Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Pick two.
may well be, but i've seen it manys a time and there still going. as long as you don't go for silly power a honda engine will stand it. The old axiom comes to mind:
Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Pick two.
Edited by Marf on Friday 28th December 16:33
Edited by mdm123 on Friday 28th December 16:46
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