Citoen AX GT ignition Amplifier

Citoen AX GT ignition Amplifier

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Lordbenny

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8,589 posts

220 months

Saturday 26th April 2008
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So....just bought an amazingly conditioned 20 year old, 42,000 miler. It's been sitting on a drive for over a year & cosmetically I've got it looking mint. However, it cuts out when the engine gets warm. I'm pretty sure it's the ignition amplifier, I've taken it off and removed alot of 'limescale' type substance from the side of the dizzy but after sarting it from cold in 5 minutes it just cuts out!

Firstly, is it the ignition amplifier, why is it cutting out?

Secondly, do I need to get a new one (£60+) or do I just need to get some of the special grease that apparently comes with a new one that stops it cutting out?

bitwrx

1,352 posts

205 months

Sunday 27th April 2008
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Er, that limescale stuff might have been mating compound (unless I have misunderstood your post). It improves heat transfer from the ignition module to the distributor housing. It starts off slippery and white, and ends up gummy and grey.

Yes it's a bit of a pain spending 60quid on a new module, but it is more often than not the part at fault. My 106 and father's 405 both needed new ones. I thought it had gone on brother's 205, but a snapped cambelt turned out to be the reason we had no sparks - doh! Similar symptoms. No sparks and everything else working as it should. Just forgot to check the distributor was actually going round.

Anyway, back on topic... my 106 used to cut out at random intervals. Could go for days, or cut out twice in 5 mins. Changed the ignition module for one from a scrappy 205. Not missed a beat since.
The modules are fairly common across most PSA engines. Just watch out if you change the whole distributor. The relationship between input and output isn't always the same. 106 fired 90deg out with the 205 dizzy on.

By the way, this whole post is assuming Peugeot/Citroen commonality. I have been talking about TU and XY engines.

Hope it helps

Charlie

Lordbenny

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8,589 posts

220 months

Monday 28th April 2008
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Thanks for your help, the module is on order!

Lordbenny

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220 months

Monday 28th April 2008
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Right, managed to get a module from a scrappy & bought some special grease from an electrical supply shop, fitted it on......car still won't fire up!

Changed, plugs, dizzy cap & rotor, what the fcensoredk can it be?

Lordbenny

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220 months

Monday 28th April 2008
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Tried the old amplifier but now with the special grease, fired up straight away, but.....as soon as it got up to temperature & the fan was about to cut in.....it died frown

Maybe the amp from the scrappy was duff too?

Is there a cut out when the engine gets too hot?....I doubt it. Anyway the temp gauge wasnt even half way up.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 28th April 2008
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Lordbenny said:
Tried the old amplifier but now with the special grease, fired up straight away, but.....as soon as it got up to temperature & the fan was about to cut in.....it died frown

Maybe the amp from the scrappy was duff too?
Was it exactly the same amp, i.e. the number on top is the same? If so then it sounds like you got a duff one.

GSF are showing the module at £35.20+vat at the moment for a brand new guaranteed one...

Lordbenny

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Monday 28th April 2008
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Must be a duff'n.

Mine is a GT not a GTi but I can get one at trade price. i'll let you know how I get on!

Lordbenny

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220 months

Tuesday 29th April 2008
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Just fitted brand new module....£71:00!!!! And thats trade price!

Car purrs like a kitten, roll on those country lanes! wink

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th April 2008
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Even better, only £25 for the GT at GSF. If you can get it trade then even cheaper!

Lordbenny

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Wednesday 30th April 2008
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Mr2Mike said:
Even better, only £25 for the GT at GSF. If you can get it trade then even cheaper!
I called GSF but they said they didnt stock them! mad