Monaro cluster modding

Monaro cluster modding

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Codswallop

5,250 posts

195 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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^^ Very impressive computery stuff Nick thumbup

Do all Monaro's have a built in shift light that just needs the coding?

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Codswallop said:
^^ Very impressive computery stuff Nick thumbup

Do all Monaro's have a built in shift light that just needs the coding?
yes

well_fans

4,193 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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so when you going to let the rest of us have a play because as impressive as your dedication to getting into all the deep dark corners of the code for the assorted models are most of us really just want to change the startup logo which is supposed to be pretty idiot proof if you have the right software and a cable...

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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well_fans said:
so when you going to let the rest of us have a play because as impressive as your dedication to getting into all the deep dark corners of the code for the assorted models are most of us really just want to change the startup logo which is supposed to be pretty idiot proof if you have the right software and a cable...
i have a load of notes i need to write up. which will show what hex byte that needs changing to do what part. as for heading into each deep dark corner i am just scratching the surface.

the super secret software i eluded to a number of posts back does not work well with the UK clusters and causes more issues than it fixes. i have spent the last few weeks putting my own cluster back right so it works correctly and i still have a fwew bits to fix.

so once i have fixed what i broke so others don't tread that path i will share.

Edited by the_ferret82 on Wednesday 24th April 22:48

Behold81

2,931 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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So want to know if we can get a test vt cluster what you could do. Mph would be great on the trip. As would mpg not l/100kph.

Great work.

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Behold81 said:
So want to know if we can get a test vt cluster what you could do. Mph would be great on the trip. As would mpg not l/100kph.

Great work.
might not need to waste money on a test VT cluster if we meet up at some point i can see if i can read from yours and work it from there.

well_fans

4,193 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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the_ferret82 said:
well_fans said:
so when you going to let the rest of us have a play because as impressive as your dedication to getting into all the deep dark corners of the code for the assorted models are most of us really just want to change the startup logo which is supposed to be pretty idiot proof if you have the right software and a cable...


i have a load of notes i need to write up. which will show what hex byte that needs changing.

the super secret software i eluded to a number of posts back does not work well with the UK clusters and causes more issues than it fixes. i have spent the last few weeks putting my own cluster back right so it works correctly and i still have a fwew bits to fix.

so once i have fixed what i broke so others don't tread that path i will share.


aha so we're back to using the OSE Utility then as the main tool, fair enough I'll just crack on myself with that. I still reckon my efilive cable with a USB-serial cable will do the job with the cluster in the car. Just need to wait on the car battery recharging fully, was dead tonight. Will see how I get on tomorrow evening.

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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well_fans said:
the_ferret82 said:
well_fans said:
so when you going to let the rest of us have a play because as impressive as your dedication to getting into all the deep dark corners of the code for the assorted models are most of us really just want to change the startup logo which is supposed to be pretty idiot proof if you have the right software and a cable...
i have a load of notes i need to write up. which will show what hex byte that needs changing.

the super secret software i eluded to a number of posts back does not work well with the UK clusters and causes more issues than it fixes. i have spent the last few weeks putting my own cluster back right so it works correctly and i still have a fwew bits to fix.

so once i have fixed what i broke so others don't tread that path i will share.
aha so we're back to using the OSE Utility then as the main tool, fair enough I'll just crack on myself with that. I still reckon my efilive cable with a USB-serial cable will do the job with the cluster in the car. Just need to wait on the car battery recharging fully, was dead tonight. Will see how I get on tomorrow evening.
yes we are hence why im going code blind.

i can send you some pointers over cabling wiring and reading if you want to drop me an PM. i just hope you have good eyesite as all the number start to blur after a while.

fyi there is some good info on the LS1 GTO thread but warning there speadsheet is not 100% accurate for UK cars found this out the hard way..

maxmc2

2,061 posts

186 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Are you offering your services for those that aren't technically minded say a set fee to change certain logos etc?

well_fans

4,193 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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yeah got the spreadsheet, only two things I am interested in looking at their stuff

1. backup table 9 (F2,57,1,9)
2. change startup logo, rev limits and shutdown text

(F2,70,28,09,00,00,00,07,D4,0D,6C,74,74,74,74,74,01,58,00,4D,4F,4E,41,52,4F,20,43,56,38)

F2,70,28,09 - no change
00 - logo choice
00,00 - no change
07,D4 - year of vehicle 2004
0D - custom shutdown text
6C,74,74,74,74,74 - 5400,5800,5800,5800,5800,5800 rpm gear shifts
01 - turn shift on
58,00 - no change
4D,4F,4E,41,52,4F,20,43,56,38 - MONARO CV8 shutdown text

Any obvious errors/differences with our cars (2004 cv8)

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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well_fans said:
yeah got the spreadsheet, only two things I am interested in looking at their stuff

1. backup table 9 (F2,57,1,9)
2. change startup logo, rev limits and shutdown text

(F2,70,28,09,00,00,00,07,D4,0D,6C,74,74,74,74,74,01,58,00,4D,4F,4E,41,52,4F,20,43,56,38)

F2,70,28,09 - no change
00 - logo choice
00,00 - no change
07,D4 - year of vehicle 2004
0D - custom shutdown text
6C,74,74,74,74,74 - 5400,5800,5800,5800,5800,5800 rpm gear shifts
01 - turn shift on
58,00 - no change
4D,4F,4E,41,52,4F,20,43,56,38 - MONARO CV8 shutdown text

Any obvious errors/differences with our cars (2004 cv8)
yes

read the current settings out your cluster first with this code.

F2,57,1,9 this reads out table 9 which is logos and red line light and gear change RPM and custom text etc

then copy it in to notepad and put the above settings in you want.

and turn the shift light code to 90 not 01 *taken taken me 3 weeks to sniff this)

if you copy and pate direct from the spreadsheet some items wont work.

also make sure you set cable type in OSE.. i.e adal and disable BCM chatter, it might not write first time but it will do it. you will need to cycle the cluster twice to pick all changes.

if you going with the HOLDEN startup logo. shutdown text will NOT work. shutdown text only works on HSV and CSV startup logos there linked. i have not worked out how to unlink these yet.

hope this makes sense


if you have a 04 CV8 like im reading (big boot) can you do me a cluster dump if i send you the codes, its not the whole cluster i just need certain tables.

added to say mode F2,70,28 is write F2,70,1 is read / return you will need to change the 1 to 28 to write the code back after editing.

Edited by the_ferret82 on Wednesday 24th April 23:42

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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maxmc2 said:
Are you offering your services for those that aren't technically minded say a set fee to change certain logos etc?
there is a chance of this wink

well_fans

4,193 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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if I get it working happy enough to send you a copy of the 10 tables, been doing bit more reading and saw your issues with the shift light/shutdown text. Wasn't actually that bothered about them but figured if they were available might as well change. Thanks for the heads up re the code change to 90. Think I'm going to order an arduino board in the morning as a backup in case the cable doesn't work.

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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well_fans said:
if I get it working happy enough to send you a copy of the 10 tables, been doing bit more reading and saw your issues with the shift light/shutdown text. Wasn't actually that bothered about them but figured if they were available might as well change. Thanks for the heads up re the code change to 90. Think I'm going to order an arduino board in the morning as a backup in case the cable doesn't work.
thanks thumbup and good luck. there is an extra table i will want reads from that don't come under tables - 10 ill post the code when you up and working (its on a different laptop and im to lazy to turn it on this evening.... again)


Edited by the_ferret82 on Wednesday 24th April 23:49

Behold81

2,931 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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the_ferret82 said:
might not need to waste money on a test VT cluster if we meet up at some point i can see if i can read from yours and work it from there.
Your not too far so sounds like a plan.


the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Behold81 said:
the_ferret82 said:
might not need to waste money on a test VT cluster if we meet up at some point i can see if i can read from yours and work it from there.
Your not too far so sounds like a plan.
let em get this lot out of the way first.

IXLR8

2,025 posts

150 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Ummmmmm i think this has shot clean over my head yeshehe

Nick do you still need to read the settings from my cluster???

By the way you said and i quote ...."can you do me a cluster dump if i send you the codes"
Isn't that what happens after a curry????
You really are in the ScensoredT

hehe

Behold81

2,931 posts

170 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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the_ferret82 said:
let em get this lot out of the way first.
Didn't mean ill be there Saturday!!!!!


the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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IXLR8 said:
Ummmmmm i think this has shot clean over my head yeshehe

Nick do you still need to read the settings from my cluster???

By the way you said and i quote ...."can you do me a cluster dump if i send you the codes"
Isn't that what happens after a curry????
You really are in the ScensoredT

hehe
No don't need your cluster any more I got my hands on a vz 6.0 cluster to work on.
but thank you for the offer.

The dump is what I do when I make a mistake on programming... Rule 1 always remember to take a backup rule 2 remember where you saved the backup rule 3 remember what it is you changed.. laugh



Edited by the_ferret82 on Thursday 25th April 08:13

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

185 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Behold81 said:
the_ferret82 said:
let em get this lot out of the way first.
Didn't mean ill be there Saturday!!!!!
Phew :-)