Carbon fibre

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xover

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340 posts

166 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Does anyone know a place near London that will make replacement bonnet and boot in red carbon fibre and how much it is likely to cost and the associated weight reduction? Also, would it make the boot easier to break into? I feel like those two parts are pretty heavy and slowing the car down a lot.

Phillphill

284 posts

146 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Lots of money!

There was a place in Hayling Island that specialized in CF,

Weight saving yes makes a difference but its not going to transform the car having those parts in CF. If you drove back to back stock car and one with the bonnet and boot replaced id bet (alot) there would be no difference in feel or a timed test

you would gain more taking a dump and loosing some wieght, be cheaper and more healthy!

Edited by Phillphill on Thursday 18th May 17:11

Mud_

2,924 posts

156 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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IIRC changing the bonnet nets something like 7kg...I guess the boot is less (and weight off the back is less useful). You'll probably have to relocate the washer jets too (I've already done this...but not got around to actually changing the bonnet). Relocating the battery (20kg off the front) or changing the seats (~-40kg) are more signficant, but you might argue still marginal on a 1700kg car!

edit: also wheels can remove a lot of rotating mass (double win! smile)

Edited by Mud_ on Thursday 18th May 17:57

xover

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340 posts

166 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Oh OK, not worth it then. Thanks for the info.

SturdyHSV

10,096 posts

167 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Relocating the battery to the rear is a better return on your money, 20KG or so right off the nose moved over the rear wheels where it's needed thumbup

You'd probably get a more noticeable sense of improved turn in with a slightly stiffer rear anti roll bar, depends what your goals are I suppose.

As Mud said the wheels are heavy things too, lighter weight options would probably provide the largest benefit to all aspects of the drive, but your options are a bit limited on styles unless you want to spend a lot of money :/

Sorry I seem to have gone off on one assuming it's a handling thing. Weight reduction wise there aren't any big gains to be made other than the seats really, unless you want to sacrifice refinement (or spend vast sums)

xover

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340 posts

166 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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I just want to make it fast, but the SC upgrade is vastly expensive. Would a cam upgrade and intake manifold be enough power to improve acceleration?

To be honest I think the handling is great for a car of this size with the tires, suspension, quick rack and bushes upgraded.

Janosh

1,735 posts

167 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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One of the best value for money upgrades is a 3.9 diff. Seems like it would achieve exactly what you're looking for....

xover

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166 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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How much improvement is there with this?

Mud_

2,924 posts

156 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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3.9 diff makes a big difference, especially if you have the gearbox with the longer ratios (2004 thing? CV8 thing?).

I think it's fair to say, experience at Thunder Road indicates the superchargers really come into their own at 100+.

xover

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340 posts

166 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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On a stock monaro 6.0 whats the difference in 0-60 time?

bigwheel

1,618 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Monkfish told me the 3.9 they fitted to my CV8 equated to a 50 bhp increase.

SturdyHSV

10,096 posts

167 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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xover said:
On a stock monaro 6.0 whats the difference in 0-60 time?
Starting from 0 really isn't the Monaro's speciality. I've done all sorts to mine and my best 0-60 at Santa Pod is still around 4.9 or so, you really can't get these things moving quickly from a standstill hehe

It does sound like a 3.9 diff may well actually give you that extra shove in the back that you're chasing. Personally I haven't experienced the difference, but I have heard many good things.

Put it this way, it'll make a night and day difference for the money compared to a 6kg saving on bonnet weight for £1,500 worth of carbon fibre.

xover

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340 posts

166 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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SturdyHSV said:
Starting from 0 really isn't the Monaro's speciality. I've done all sorts to mine and my best 0-60 at Santa Pod is still around 4.9 or so, you really can't get these things moving quickly from a standstill hehe

It does sound like a 3.9 diff may well actually give you that extra shove in the back that you're chasing. Personally I haven't experienced the difference, but I have heard many good things.

Put it this way, it'll make a night and day difference for the money compared to a 6kg saving on bonnet weight for £1,500 worth of carbon fibre.
I see you have a truetrac diff, what was the cost and where did you get that fitted? Or did you do that youself?

SturdyHSV

10,096 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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xover said:
I see you have a truetrac diff, what was the cost and where did you get that fitted? Or did you do that youself?
MyM8V8 had a spare TrueTrac that he'd picked up from the US, which he sold to me for £475 (exchange rate was much better back then!)

I had monkfish fit it along with some other bits, the alignment etc. side of things requires measuring and such, and I didn't trust myself to do that properly at the time!

If you're after making the car quicker I don't think the truetrac would bring much to the party compared to the stock diff. Obviously if you're thinking of changing the rear gears then you'd save labour costs doing the truetrac at the same time.

I've personally not encountered any situations with one of my rear wheels being up in the air for the Wavetrac to be a major benefit to me, I'm clearly not trying hard enough hehe

JAMESHSV1

291 posts

98 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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xover said:
Does anyone know a place near London that will make replacement bonnet and boot in red carbon fibre and how much it is likely to cost and the associated weight reduction? Also, would it make the boot easier to break into? I feel like those two parts are pretty heavy and slowing the car down a lot.
Get more power under the bonnet lol