WANTED: 3.9 diff (2004 CV8)

WANTED: 3.9 diff (2004 CV8)

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91964

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266 posts

195 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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Hi all, just putting this up. I’m after either a kit to re-build my diff or one built. Any help to find a supplier of kit or recommended company in East Anglia to build it would be great and much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

JAMESHSV1

291 posts

99 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Any mods to your engine

91964

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266 posts

195 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Hi James, just exhaust/cats/headers, intake pipe and filter and re-map. Rolling roaded at 385bhp but seemed a bit generous

mfp4073

1,947 posts

175 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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At a guess I would say 385hp with those mods would be worth checking again. My CV8, which also has those mods put down 325hp at the rear wheels, so that would be somewhere around 425hp at the flywheel. My car has been fitted with a 390.1 rear end which has woken it up quite a bit. The odd thing is my car now drives the way I imagined a Monaro would drive when stock! That's the trouble when your expectations are too high.

91964

Original Poster:

266 posts

195 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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mfp4073 said:
At a guess I would say 385hp with those mods would be worth checking again. My CV8, which also has those mods put down 325hp at the rear wheels, so that would be somewhere around 425hp at the flywheel. My car has been fitted with a 390.1 rear end which has woken it up quite a bit. The odd thing is my car now drives the way I imagined a Monaro would drive when stock! That's the trouble when your expectations are too high.
My figure quoted was at flywheel, I figured that a 60bhp gain was a bit much too to expect from those mods on a N/A engine. The previous owner was of the same opinion.
I’m not too bothered as it runs nicely its just the gearing. I went from an STI Impreza and the gearing on that was spot on. Couldn’t crack 90mph in 3rd but felt so lively even with a bit of lag. The monaro has the torque to deal with it but the sensation of speed is soaked up when the speedo is climbing at the same rate as the Rev counter.
Now found a local specialist to do the rebuild, just need to get the bits together. What seals do I need to order with the gears. Still not decided on if the LSD is worth changing? I’ve never had an issue with it?

mfp4073

1,947 posts

175 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I had Monkfish build my diff, so I can't advise on which parts to use. However I would say use only the best quality components, a cheapo bearing will spoil your day, and a cheap crown and pinion will whine most of the time. As for the LSD, I would change that if you can. I had a a Truetrac fitted which works well enough, but I've never been happy with it as mine clunks a lot. Some Truetracs are worse than others, but lots of people on here are happy with them. I believe a Kaaz or Wavetrac LSD are a good choice for these cars. Sadly none of these parts are cheap, so do some research before you splash out.

John

robbyd

601 posts

176 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I have a Kaaz in one of mine, with 3.9 and it's good. Goes in a straight line when both tyres spin...

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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robbyd said:
I have a Kaaz in one of mine, with 3.9 and it's good. Goes in a straight line when both tyres spin...
oh yes.

91964

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266 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Any UK suppliers of gears and LSD?

91964

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266 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Have found MACE ones on eBay from Oz, also plenty in the states for GTO. Are the 2004 gto the same rear end?

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Yes a GTO is the same . Its a borg warner M80 diff.

91964

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266 posts

195 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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fred bloggs said:
Yes a GTO is the same . Its a borg warner M80 diff.
Thanks Fred! That’s great.

91964

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266 posts

195 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Still can’t find a U.K. supplier for gear set?

Mud_

2,924 posts

157 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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91964 said:
Still can’t find a U.K. supplier for gear set?
I had to import my Dana gears...from Oz IIRC.

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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91964 said:
Still can’t find a U.K. supplier for gear set?
You wont. Its the long wait from OZ I'm afraid.

You could see if 'raving' on here has a HSV VT2 diff from a breaker, its a 3.7:1 diff.

But there are plenty of used diffs on Ebay.au , some rebuilt ones with lower ratios, spools,whatever you want.

Heres one company , but I found a few more.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/new-Holden-Diff-VT-VX-...redfaceDYAAOSwA4dWMrMY

raving

1,183 posts

191 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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He knows that I have one , well all the ratios I have available ( not that i can say that on here )

The price was the price

It makes me laugh when some say what they think its worth & it should have a Kaaz in also for that etc

What do they know ? Maybe they do the parts ?


91964

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266 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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raving said:
He knows that I have one , well all the ratios I have available ( not that i can say that on here )

The price was the price

It makes me laugh when some say what they think its worth & it should have a Kaaz in also for that etc

What do they know ? Maybe they do the parts ?
Hi Raving, I’m not sure if that reply is aimed at me personally? Anyway, thanks for your speedy reply last week. indeed your price is your price! I haven’t suggested otherwise I’m only asking the opinions of others who might be better educated than me on the subject. I haven’t asked you to discount it. I’m sure it’s worth every penny.
The fact is, if an upgraded second hand diff is indeed £1750 + postage + fitting my end.....then I’m almost instantly perfectly happy with the diff ratio I have.
This thread is to investigate the possible options and expected costs

raving

1,183 posts

191 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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91964 said:
Hi Raving, I’m not sure if that reply is aimed at me personally? Anyway, thanks for your speedy reply last week. indeed your price is your price! I haven’t suggested otherwise I’m only asking the opinions of others who might be better educated than me on the subject. I haven’t asked you to discount it. I’m sure it’s worth every penny.
The fact is, if an upgraded second hand diff is indeed £1750 + postage + fitting my end.....then I’m almost instantly perfectly happy with the diff ratio I have.
This thread is to investigate the possible options and expected costs
Not at all , if it was I would have quoted your name or directly aimed it

I would not pay it personally but many have and lots more

Most have been ,lets say , led down the garden path with costs previously

Anything in short supply and sort after will always command a premium

91964

Original Poster:

266 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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raving said:
Not at all , if it was I would have quoted your name or directly aimed it

I would not pay it personally but many have and lots more

Most have been ,lets say , led down the garden path with costs previously

Anything in short supply and sort after will always command a premium
Understood. That’s how it works, It’s why you’re in business, and I’m glad people like you are! It’s what keeps our cars on the road. Thanks again for your help with my enquirys.

raving

1,183 posts

191 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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91964 said:
Understood. That’s how it works, It’s why you’re in business, and I’m glad people like you are! It’s what keeps our cars on the road. Thanks again for your help with my enquirys.
Not a problem