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stu vxr said:
Am just wondering anything Monkfish has been involved in is more authentic with our cars.
It has to be worth ten times more than anything turned out by a dealer just sticking a charger on to sell?
Everything just worked from the fish and was proven, thank you Roger and Andy.It has to be worth ten times more than anything turned out by a dealer just sticking a charger on to sell?
JAMESHSV1 said:
Don't know why the vxr500 is specifically special as vauxhall only fitted the S/C to sell them off
That's right they were £37K when the std VXR was £30K and CV8 £24K. I think they only converted 15.I hoped Mustang prices might go the same way but then we had that Brexit vote
granada203028 said:
JAMESHSV1 said:
Don't know why the vxr500 is specifically special as vauxhall only fitted the S/C to sell them off
That's right they were £37K when the std VXR was £30K and CV8 £24K. I think they only converted 15.I hoped Mustang prices might go the same way but then we had that Brexit vote
That's a pretty expensive bolt on 
By that account some of us who have Monkfish charged cars will be sat on a fortune then...as our cars were done properly. Can't disagree with the fact that these cars are ridiculously good value for what they are. Yes some of the build quality in places is a little cheap but has anyone ever looked at the build quality on some Ferrari's....errr iffy isn't even in it. So we can hold our heads up..plus seeing as our car's are in fact a great deal RARER than many so called prestige marques....it is justified if values rise.
Can't help thinking that values may have bottomed out and will start to steadily rise. Just glad I got in whilst the prices were affordable. Let's face it if the average value of a half decent MK1 and MK2 Escort is £20k...there is hope for us yet
By that account some of us who have Monkfish charged cars will be sat on a fortune then...as our cars were done properly. Can't disagree with the fact that these cars are ridiculously good value for what they are. Yes some of the build quality in places is a little cheap but has anyone ever looked at the build quality on some Ferrari's....errr iffy isn't even in it. So we can hold our heads up..plus seeing as our car's are in fact a great deal RARER than many so called prestige marques....it is justified if values rise. Can't help thinking that values may have bottomed out and will start to steadily rise. Just glad I got in whilst the prices were affordable. Let's face it if the average value of a half decent MK1 and MK2 Escort is £20k...there is hope for us yet
stu vxr said:
I would say what's wrong with that? The Monaro is special it's a Holden after all, prices will rise full stop, if anyone doubts that then sell now.
Why do certain owner's continue to de value our own cars?
The VXR500 is a dealers badge from a dealer that went bust and used a supercharger that slipped more than the LSD (which didn't) and never produced close to the claimed power. It isn't a case of devaluing cars, its a case of hopefully preventing someone from paying for a worthless badge.Why do certain owner's continue to de value our own cars?
There must be around 600 Monaros left on UK roads?. I suspect that there are quite a few tatty ones around at the moment, so with that in mind the next 3-5 years will sadly see rough cars sent off to the breakers yard.
Maybe that's when the values will really start to climb, don't forget they will be on their way to being 20yrs old.
If future buyers want a two door rear wheel drive muscle car they are going to have to pay for the privilege. When you think about it it's not like there's going to be be a new GM replacement anytime soon...or perhaps ever!!!!!!
The Ford Mustang seems to have done well in the UK, and so have their prices, far better than the Monaro ever did, I think It's time for the Monaro to start catching up.
Maybe that's when the values will really start to climb, don't forget they will be on their way to being 20yrs old.
If future buyers want a two door rear wheel drive muscle car they are going to have to pay for the privilege. When you think about it it's not like there's going to be be a new GM replacement anytime soon...or perhaps ever!!!!!!
The Ford Mustang seems to have done well in the UK, and so have their prices, far better than the Monaro ever did, I think It's time for the Monaro to start catching up.
George Smiley said:
The VXR500 is a dealers badge from a dealer that went bust and used a supercharger that slipped more than the LSD (which didn't) and never produced close to the claimed power. It isn't a case of devaluing cars, its a case of hopefully preventing someone from paying for a worthless badge.
Are you able to put a price on the car in question then? I assume you have owned or drove a charged Monaro in the past with regard to the fact the vxr 500 was as you say it is.I was merely trying to point out that in my opinion these cars sell to cheaply and people expect to buy them for next to nothing.
stu vxr said:
Are you able to put a price on the car in question then? I assume you have owned or drove a charged Monaro in the past with regard to the fact the vxr 500 was as you say it is.
I was merely trying to point out that in my opinion these cars sell to cheaply and people expect to buy them for next to nothing.
As good value as the Monaro was, it doesn't have a following that can command such strong prices.I was merely trying to point out that in my opinion these cars sell to cheaply and people expect to buy them for next to nothing.
The reason older classics are appreciatingvis because these are being bought by folk that saw them as icons but were too young to buy (cossies for example)
The vxr500 is worth little more than a car
George Smiley said:
As good value as the Monaro was, it doesn't have a following that can command such strong prices.
The reason older classics are appreciatingvis because these are being bought by folk that saw them as icons but were too young to buy (cossies for example)
The vxr500 is worth little more than a car
Well I can see your point, the Monaro isn't really that well known to the general public and that can refect badly in their perceived value. I'e it's just a Vauxhall.The reason older classics are appreciatingvis because these are being bought by folk that saw them as icons but were too young to buy (cossies for example)
The vxr500 is worth little more than a car
However....the supply of Monaro's is very limited. I guess if you are aware of their existence and you appreciate what they really are, you're going to want a good example.
The bottom line is Monaro numbers are starting to dwindle, so prices should start to rise.
A good solid clean Monaro with some well regarded mods should be at least 15k by now, but they all seem to be advertised 3-4K short.
Well that's my thoughts anyway!!!!!!
George Smiley said:
As good value as the Monaro was, it doesn't have a following that can command such strong prices.
The reason older classics are appreciatingvis because these are being bought by folk that saw them as icons but were too young to buy (cossies for example)
The vxr500 is worth little more than a car
That really doesn't answer my question? I am a big fan of the oval badge by the way and anything cosworth deserves respect.The reason older classics are appreciatingvis because these are being bought by folk that saw them as icons but were too young to buy (cossies for example)
The vxr500 is worth little more than a car
My point is you made a statement that all vxr 500's where we'll short of power etc
I assume you are an ex owner or have driven one and were disappointed in the car itself.
I have driven many cars and as yet haven't been to find anything that is as exciting as a charged Monaro in a straight line full stop,
A properly charged Monaro George really is a weapon which is why they will appreciate.
stu vxr said:
That really doesn't answer my question? I am a big fan of the oval badge by the way and anything cosworth deserves respect.
My point is you made a statement that all vxr 500's where we'll short of power etc
I assume you are an ex owner or have driven one and were disappointed in the car itself.
I have driven many cars and as yet haven't been to find anything that is as exciting as a charged Monaro in a straight line full stop,
A properly charged Monaro George really is a weapon which is why they will appreciate.
The vxr500 is far from a weaponMy point is you made a statement that all vxr 500's where we'll short of power etc
I assume you are an ex owner or have driven one and were disappointed in the car itself.
I have driven many cars and as yet haven't been to find anything that is as exciting as a charged Monaro in a straight line full stop,
A properly charged Monaro George really is a weapon which is why they will appreciate.
JAMESHSV1 said:
The vxr500 is far from a weapon
They also did 2 VXR600s. Jez’s car I believe was one of them. They had intercooled 122hh blowers running 12psi of boost, developing about 600hp.Blower technology has moved on and I wouldn’t pay a premium for a VXR500 when most of the Monkfish cars are way better.
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