MOT question - Lack of engine management light = MOT fail?

MOT question - Lack of engine management light = MOT fail?

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lythaby

156 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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Interestingly I’ve just had this argument with the same MOT station that’s MOT’d mine for the last 5 years.
Because they can seem the silhouette in the bottom right, they think the bulb has been removed.
Posted on the Facebook groups and there’s nothing “in writ” to produce for next year, other than the threads like this.
A few have suggested walkinshaw for something but it’d need to be from the DVSA.
Or we just keep this thread favourited.
I like the idea of telling them to disconnect the o2 sensor, but they’ll be finicky about “interfering” with the car during the test I think.

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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lythaby said:
Interestingly I’ve just had this argument with the same MOT station that’s MOT’d mine for the last 5 years.
Because they can seem the silhouette in the bottom right, they think the bulb has been removed.
Posted on the Facebook groups and there’s nothing “in writ” to produce for next year, other than the threads like this.
A few have suggested walkinshaw for something but it’d need to be from the DVSA.
Or we just keep this thread favourited.
I like the idea of telling them to disconnect the o2 sensor, but they’ll be finicky about “interfering” with the car during the test I think.
Yes, tester can't interfere with the car during the test. This light rule changed in the last 18 months.

lythaby

156 posts

202 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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For ref:
From MOT@dvsa.gov.uk

RE: Clarification on section 8.2.1.2, of the MOT inspection manual

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your enquiry regarding your Vauxhall Monaro and the MiL lamp at MOT.
Having spoken to Vauxhall recently they stated that the MiL lamp is fitted to these vehicles however it may not illuminate when the engine is switched on.
Your picture below displays a MiL that appears to meet the UNECE regulation requirement.
These vehicles do not fit in with "Kit cars, amateur built vehicles and American pickups……” as they are not this type of vehicle.

Regarding the MOT :
At MOT the tester should be aware that these vehicles may not be fitted with a MIL lamp that does not function when the ignition is switched or engine started.
This vehicle should not be failed if the MIL is inoperative, but should only be failed if the engine MIL indicates a malfunction.

Should testers or users of these vehicles require clarification they should email mot@dvsa.gov.uk
We are unable to comment on 3rd party website or forums unless evidence from a manufacturer can be produced.

Regards
Ian

MOT Product Specialist | Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) | The Axis Building | 112 Upper Parliament Street | Nottingham NG1 6LP

Email : MOT@dvsa.gov.uk

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Phantom-MonVXR

142 posts

150 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Monkfish posted somthing about this on face book I will try and find it..

L2VXR

975 posts

214 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Roger's response