Tam very 'crashy' after Nitrons fitted!
Discussion
spitfire4v8 said:
Yes if you reduce the spring rates, and fit big rubber bushes like the standard dampers have then you'll get a better ride, but the problem is that you could run these uprated springs on nitrons of old with no or very few issues. Something has changed, and not for the better ..
So you think that perhaps there is a problem with the actual shocks, valves maybe?Anyway, I have spent way too much on this car for one year, in some cases making it worse rather than better, so I am cutting my losses for this year and will wait 'till next year to try and sort it out.
Spending a fortune doesn't always mean the result is a better car, I have learnt.....
spitfire4v8 said:
Yes if you reduce the spring rates, and fit big rubber bushes like the standard dampers have then you'll get a better ride, but the problem is that you could run these uprated springs on nitrons of old with no or very few issues. Something has changed, and not for the better ..
The same spring rates as I have on my now 10 year old Nitrons. My car was used as a daily for about 6 of those and is much more compliant than the over damped standard set up. It's actually too soft with them wound right down and gets a bit chattery at the back on hard cornering.Chris if you're ever down near Berkshire then you're welcome to come out in my Tuscan. It's running 375front/300rear springs, and specifically road based valving was put in when I ordered them direct from nitron.
I'm really pleased with them, and actually with the damper adjustment set anywhere less than 10from soft, they actually ride softer than the original bilsteins.
I have been out in other tvr's with the standard Nitrons and also found them to be a little harsh (not overly so, but definitely felt very fast road/track biased), but I'm now really happy with my new set up.
I'm really pleased with them, and actually with the damper adjustment set anywhere less than 10from soft, they actually ride softer than the original bilsteins.
I have been out in other tvr's with the standard Nitrons and also found them to be a little harsh (not overly so, but definitely felt very fast road/track biased), but I'm now really happy with my new set up.
In the end I couldn't decide between:
- Sag spec bilstein in custom tam fittment (from hhc)
- latest spec bilstein
- Protech doubles
- AST from RG
So I treated the selection as what it is, a lottery. Method was whoever gets back to me claiming stock first wins. Its the only way...
Should have my new ASTs by the morning. Sure hope I wont be disappointed...
- Sag spec bilstein in custom tam fittment (from hhc)
- latest spec bilstein
- Protech doubles
- AST from RG
So I treated the selection as what it is, a lottery. Method was whoever gets back to me claiming stock first wins. Its the only way...
Should have my new ASTs by the morning. Sure hope I wont be disappointed...
SergSC said:
In the end I couldn't decide between:
- Sag spec bilstein in custom tam fittment (from hhc)
- latest spec bilstein
- Protech doubles
- AST from RG
So I treated the selection as what it is, a lottery. Method was whoever gets back to me claiming stock first wins. Its the only way...
Should have my new ASTs by the morning. Sure hope I wont be disappointed...
Did they arrive? - Sag spec bilstein in custom tam fittment (from hhc)
- latest spec bilstein
- Protech doubles
- AST from RG
So I treated the selection as what it is, a lottery. Method was whoever gets back to me claiming stock first wins. Its the only way...
Should have my new ASTs by the morning. Sure hope I wont be disappointed...
chris watton said:
Did they arrive?
They did indeed, but you'll have to wait till the ~10th for news on whether the gamble paid off or not... all 3rd party reports would seem to suggest it will, but we know all about 3rd party reports, right? It will go in for shock fittment, geo, engine mounts, tb tune up, alternator belt adjustment, and now the horn has just stopped working and I dont even know where tf it is supposed to be located. It aint gonae be a cheap month... at least the ride over there involves the Duke's which isnt bad for shock before and after tests.
QBee said:
Horn in my 99 car is in the "mouth", near the air filter, in front of the radiator. So look at the front of the car, passenger side inducator, nine inches to your left.
Yep - Mine too. Just bought two new horns and had them fitted - common problem, apparently because of where they're located.As for shocks - I will have to wait, and can't drive the Tam until my windscreen is re-seated anyway (condensation on inside after it rains since re-trim ) -so it's stuck in the garage for now.....
Well I've just had new Bilsteins and Eibach springs fitted and set up (by HHC) and I was pleasantly surprised by the difference and improvement on the journey home. Need to do a few more miles for a full evaluation, but the improvement was significant so far. However, they replaced a set of Protechs which I'm not sure were working as they should of been anyway so can't compare to Nitrons etc. For me though I just wanted the car set up properly with good handling for weekend runs and predominantly road use, I don't think I'd get the benefit or use out of a fully adjustable set up. Although you can of course adjust ride height with the bilsteins, albeit not quite as easily as Nitrons etc.
Anyway, pleased with the results and with the service from HHC who always do a good job from my experience.
Anyway, pleased with the results and with the service from HHC who always do a good job from my experience.
Ando74 said:
Well I've just had new Bilsteins and Eibach springs fitted and set up (by HHC) and I was pleasantly surprised by the difference and improvement on the journey home. Need to do a few more miles for a full evaluation, but the improvement was significant so far. However, they replaced a set of Protechs which I'm not sure were working as they should of been anyway so can't compare to Nitrons etc. For me though I just wanted the car set up properly with good handling for weekend runs and predominantly road use, I don't think I'd get the benefit or use out of a fully adjustable set up. Although you can of course adjust ride height with the bilsteins, albeit not quite as easily as Nitrons etc.
Anyway, pleased with the results and with the service from HHC who always do a good job from my experience.
Do you know what rate Eibachs you have had fitted?Anyway, pleased with the results and with the service from HHC who always do a good job from my experience.
This could be wrong but I believe the White spring which came on the cars originally were parallel while the late update light blue springs are suppose to be a similar rate but conical to prevent a fault with the originals.
I can't say the rate of the white ones because I never got the chance to test them, but I have tested the new springs and they are green 195 and blue 230.
I can't say the rate of the white ones because I never got the chance to test them, but I have tested the new springs and they are green 195 and blue 230.
SergSC said:
They did indeed, but you'll have to wait till the ~10th for news on whether the gamble paid off or not... all 3rd party reports would seem to suggest it will, but we know all about 3rd party reports, right?
It will go in for shock fittment, geo, engine mounts, tb tune up, alternator belt adjustment, and now the horn has just stopped working and I dont even know where tf it is supposed to be located. It aint gonae be a cheap month... at least the ride over there involves the Duke's which isnt bad for shock before and after tests.
Any news with these, pleased or not........It will go in for shock fittment, geo, engine mounts, tb tune up, alternator belt adjustment, and now the horn has just stopped working and I dont even know where tf it is supposed to be located. It aint gonae be a cheap month... at least the ride over there involves the Duke's which isnt bad for shock before and after tests.
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