Direct or indirect TPMS?

Direct or indirect TPMS?

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crolandc

Original Poster:

290 posts

197 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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Hi, I have just got a 2014 F25 X3 and the valve stems are rubber, this is throwing me because I was under the illusion that my car has direct TPMS and that the stem would be metal, do some direct TPMS systems use rubber stems or have I got indirect TPMS? Hope some one can kindly answer this for me. Cheers Cliff.

JakeT

5,452 posts

121 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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I'd say hope it's the one that uses the ABS sensors. The sensor based system is notoriously unreliable. Not to mention tyre fitters can ruin the sensor units easily and it can be a pain to balance the wheels.

AlwynMike

509 posts

88 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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AFAIK, if you have pressure readouts for each wheel, then it's direct.

Just a "you have a puncture, please proceed to your nearest BMW Dealer and pay £300 for a new tyre" type alarm, then it's indirect, working off the ABS sensors

VerySideways

10,240 posts

273 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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crolandc said:
Hi, I have just got a 2014 F25 X3 and the valve stems are rubber, this is throwing me because I was under the illusion that my car has direct TPMS and that the stem would be metal, do some direct TPMS systems use rubber stems or have I got indirect TPMS? Hope some one can kindly answer this for me. Cheers Cliff.
If your TPMS is working and you've got rubber valves then be very happy; you've got indirect smile

crolandc

Original Poster:

290 posts

197 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Ahh if only, I put my reg down on the TPMS warehouse site and they told me I have 433 MHz sensors, it shows a picture of a Schrader ez 433 sensor and the bloody valve is rubber...oh well....thanks for the replies folks, Cliff.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

187 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Are they really that bad?

I heard the same things about the TPMS sensors on the Mondeo? Touchwood ours have been fine. But we have been very picky about which tyre fitters we go to. Only two here seem to install them fine.

They've both balanced them without a hitch as well. They've not been problem free. 2 of them have new valve stems, and two have received a service kit (keep the existing valve, but change the seals and locking device). The sensors themselves have been fine (touchwood), and they have covered 60k on the car while we have owned it (possibly 168k if they are the original sensors). IIRC they are Siemens sensors as well.

If a bloke can't jack a car up right or carefully should you really trust them to fit your tyres?

They are quite handy IMO smile.

Edited by SebringMan on Monday 20th March 23:43

arfur

3,871 posts

215 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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crolandc said:
Ahh if only, I put my reg down on the TPMS warehouse site and they told me I have 433 MHz sensors, it shows a picture of a Schrader ez 433 sensor and the bloody valve is rubber...oh well....thanks for the replies folks, Cliff.
Did you ever got to the bottom of this ? Mine a rubber and I get an alert from time to time (only shows all 4 tyres on the display, no pressures).

I need 4 new tyres anyhow (2011 F25 X3M 30d) but simply not sure if to get an indy to fit them + new 433 monitors or if it uses ABS and therefore no point in spending 160 quid on 4 new sensors and get Kwik Fit to do the tyres !

ric p

577 posts

270 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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Interestingly if I enter my reg into either Euro Car parts or a TPMS site , it states that I need a direct sensor at circa £50 a corner.

However having just changed all 4 wheels and tyres, watched my friendly tyre fitter fit on my drive, spoken to my local main dealer and the independent that has worked on all our BMWs for the last 20 years, my '13 3.0d MSport F25 definitely uses the indirect system via the ABS system.

The iDrive display shows not the pressures but 4 greens. I don't know, however, if there was a mid-life change during the life of the F25 model.

arfur

3,871 posts

215 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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ric p said:
Interestingly if I enter my reg into either Euro Car parts or a TPMS site , it states that I need a direct sensor at circa £50 a corner.

However having just changed all 4 wheels and tyres, watched my friendly tyre fitter fit on my drive, spoken to my local main dealer and the independent that has worked on all our BMWs for the last 20 years, my '13 3.0d MSport F25 definitely uses the indirect system via the ABS system.

The iDrive display shows not the pressures but 4 greens. I don't know, however, if there was a mid-life change during the life of the F25 model.
Same here ... get the same result

The tyres are due to be delivered tomorrow as ordered from Italy (cheaper than uk even once the fitting charge is added). The TPMS sensors will be delivered in next couple of days and can be refunded up to 30th Jan ... I'll get the Indy to fit them next week and if there are sensors then replace them. If no sensors then I'll be refunding ... cheers

naturalaspiration

639 posts

84 months

Wednesday 19th January 2022
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If you have runflat tyres with ABS based system, check pressures regularly, as ABS won't pick up the gradual pressure drop - leading to tyre edge wear. Ask me how I know - on mine it picked it up after 1.2Bar drop...

Edited by naturalaspiration on Wednesday 19th January 22:40