Where do dealers get their SAG numbers from ?

Where do dealers get their SAG numbers from ?

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SIXSIXES

42 posts

36 months

Sunday 23rd May 2021
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silentbrown said:
SIXSIXES said:
F40: 1,311
Sagaris: 212
Rarity isn't everything...

Rover 75 V8 Tourer : 12
Agreed on some cases. But 12 for a reason wink

astonman

791 posts

211 months

Sunday 23rd May 2021
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2005/6 T350Ts, only 8 to 10 cars made.
These are actually the rarest late model TVRs, by some margin.
Followed,by the wavy dash Tuscan Convertibles, 24 ?

Edited by astonman on Sunday 23 May 21:25

crimbo

1,308 posts

229 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Does the 212 include the ones finished after the factory closed

glow worm

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5,876 posts

228 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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astonman said:
2005/6 T350Ts, only 8 to 10 cars made.
These are actually the rarest late model TVRs, by some margin.
Followed,by the wavy dash Tuscan Convertibles, 24 ?

Edited by astonman on Sunday 23 May 21:25
All Tuscan Convertibles have wavey dashboards. The think you mean Tuscan 2 Targas post jan'06.
T350s were made from 2002 and production stopped in 2005 (except 1 special for Nikolai in 2006), so I'm suprised about T350T , you're correct there weren't many but I don't know the number but with 460 T350s in total I would have thought more.

astonman

791 posts

211 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Ben Lang has 460 T350s.
But,I can only find evidence of a maximum of 84 registered/ sorned T350Ts .Some would be exported from new?So, on top of the 84?
Ben Lang says 46, 2005/6 T350s.Assuming similar percentage Targas, only 9 or 10 cars.
Even if all were Targa's which seems very unlikely,a 2005/6 Targa is much rarer than a Sagaris.

glow worm

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5,876 posts

228 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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astonman said:
Ben Lang has 460 T350s.
But,I can only find evidence of a maximum of 84 registered/ sorned T350Ts .Some would be exported from new?So, on top of the 84?
Ben Lang says 46, 2005/6 T350s.Assuming similar percentage Targas, only 9 or 10 cars.
Even if all were Targa's which seems very unlikely,a 2005/6 Targa is much rarer than a Sagaris.
I don't think you can just be selective on a particular year ... A 2003 Chim would be even rarer biglaugh

s3dave

199 posts

159 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Taken from DVLA website today - Licensed cars at the end of each quarter.




Stever

1,526 posts

250 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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The sad thing is it's very rare to see any TVR on the road these days.

The numbers in the adverts are a little misleading maybe but I expect like most of you I bought one because I loved the wacky styling from the moment I first saw one and because it's a marque that gets under your skin like no other. The fact that it's rare, British and a huge event just to own let alone drive just adds to the experiencesmile

s3dave

199 posts

159 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Also from DVLA SORN data.






Surprisingly the sum of Registered + SORN equals 169 Sag's in the UK. More than I expected


We really should try to get as many together as possible in one place. TVRCC failed 2 years ago and got 5 and a cuckoo at Castle Combe!


glow worm

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5,876 posts

228 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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s3dave said:
Also from DVLA SORN data.

Surprisingly the sum of Registered + SORN equals 169 Sag's in the UK. More than I expected
Probably plus a few more from the 1981 (1210+771) cars in the "Model Missing" category smile ... Government sites are nearly as bad as TVR at numbers biglaugh
I like the reference to the Cuckoo that joined the nest smile

Edited by glow worm on Monday 24th May 17:24

astonman

791 posts

211 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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So,there are approximately 70 T350Ts, registered and/ or sorned , against 169 Sagaris?

Stever

1,526 posts

250 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I don't know if anyone remembers Chatsworth 2009


Precision parking organisation spot on

glow worm

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5,876 posts

228 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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astonman said:
So,there are approximately 70 T350Ts, registered and/ or sorned , against 169 Sagaris?
But is a T350T a different model than a T350C ? If it is, then is a Tuscan Convertible S , a different model than a Tuscan Convertible non S ? of course a Tuscan Convertible is a Tuscan Convertible and is definitely not a Tuscan MK2 Targa (either Wavey or Baboons Bum Dash) and where does a Chimaera MK3 sit in the numbers game ... plus "The white elephant" and Tina and T440s and Typhons and etc. etc.
and Yes I was at Chatsworth ... STR8SIX supercharged Sag was there too IIRC

And the Sagaris wasn't TVRs last model , the Tuscan Convertible was !!! and as described by James May with Jackie Stewart ...TVRs Swan Song .

Edited by glow worm on Monday 24th May 17:43

silentbrown

8,863 posts

117 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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glow worm said:
Probably plus a few more from the 1981 (1210+771) cars in the "Model Missing" category smile ... Government sites are nearly as bad as TVR at numbers biglaugh
Look at the "missing" cars by year of manufacture. There's around a dozen in 2002/2003, but the rest are all 1993 or earlier.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_missing#...


astonman

791 posts

211 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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The T350C and T350T are listed as separate models,eg above.The Tuscans are all grouped together?
The Tuscan Convertibles are certainly different,whether an S is a separate model, im not a Tuscan boffin.
But Sagaris are very much Not the rarest late model TVRs, 2005/6.

glow worm

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5,876 posts

228 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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silentbrown said:
Look at the "missing" cars by year of manufacture. There's around a dozen in 2002/2003, but the rest are all 1993 or earlier.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_missing#...
But if you look at 1st registered Sags https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/tvr_sagaris#...
The total comes to 214 .... which is close to Bens figure , because he included those that had build numbers allocated and not necessarily completed .
And that doesn't include any cars exported ... if any smile
But my original point , we all must agree there are far more than 98 Sags in existence biglaugh

Edited by glow worm on Monday 24th May 18:00

non_linear

278 posts

84 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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..and far more than 40 T350T's quote "ever made". All these marque specialists know the real numbers, they haven't changed significantly over several years.

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

226 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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biggrin That's my Sag right at the front biggrin




Stever said:
I don't know if anyone remembers Chatsworth 2009


Precision parking organisation spot on

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

226 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Stever said:
The sad thing is it's very rare to see any TVR on the road these days.

Was thinking the same thing about Lotus on Saturday. I live 5 mins from the Lotus factory and was waiting for my daughter to finish her Gymnastics class at Long Stratton. Sitting watching the world go by (well the A140 anyway) for and hour with my coffee on a Saturday lunchtime and not one Lotus passed me, or a TVR for that matter. In fact the only thing of remote interest was a Ferrari FF