From a Griff or Chim to a Tamora
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pss1 said: This abuse is OUTRAGEOUS, this is a free forum. I believe that some of these threads would have been binned in other circumstances. PLEASE stop this chlidish, testosterone-fuelled nonsense and agree to disagree.
What is outrageous is the fact that someone comes on here and starts arguing the toss with people who actually OWN the cars we are talking about....to the point of insulting nubbin with childish comments about throwing his toys out of the pram, which is laughable considering Duncan's profession.
Fine if Jigs thinks his Griff is better than any other TVR, but we only need to be told that once, not on every bloody thread.
I disagree with your comments and I think my post was justified.
pss1 I'd agree with you if it weren't for the endless sh*te that jigs seems to have made a deliberate attempt to fill every thread in every forum with.
In all honesty I loved my Chimaera, I fully appreciate any driver's enthusiasm for his car, regardless of it's mark, we're all different and that's what makes the world go round ... but this bloke seems to be on some sort of mission. If he's getting on people's t*ts, I'm not surprised, and neither, I suspect, is he.
In all honesty I loved my Chimaera, I fully appreciate any driver's enthusiasm for his car, regardless of it's mark, we're all different and that's what makes the world go round ... but this bloke seems to be on some sort of mission. If he's getting on people's t*ts, I'm not surprised, and neither, I suspect, is he.
Flasher,
I understand your need to be defensive after your recent experiences with certain people on this board. However, jigs, although not as an owner, but as an experienced TVR owner (like yourself) posted an opinion. If we were all in the pub together having this discussion we would not, I hope, start a discussion, which quickly developed into a primary school name-calling session.
Jigs is not a tamora owner, I know that you were until recently but he has driven one. This makes his opinion carry less weight than your own but it does not give anyone the green light to rubbish his legitimate right to have his own opinions and express them as he sees fit. It is up to the initiator of this thread to sift-through the information that is posted. It is not our job to rubbish the views of others, if their views are rather less well informed or contrary to our own.
p.s. Jigs, we don't need obscure references to DIY stores on every thread... 'cos it hurts my brain.
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I understand your need to be defensive after your recent experiences with certain people on this board. However, jigs, although not as an owner, but as an experienced TVR owner (like yourself) posted an opinion. If we were all in the pub together having this discussion we would not, I hope, start a discussion, which quickly developed into a primary school name-calling session.
Jigs is not a tamora owner, I know that you were until recently but he has driven one. This makes his opinion carry less weight than your own but it does not give anyone the green light to rubbish his legitimate right to have his own opinions and express them as he sees fit. It is up to the initiator of this thread to sift-through the information that is posted. It is not our job to rubbish the views of others, if their views are rather less well informed or contrary to our own.
p.s. Jigs, we don't need obscure references to DIY stores on every thread... 'cos it hurts my brain.
Edited 'cos I can't type..
>> Edited by pss1 on Monday 2nd June 15:00
>> Edited by pss1 on Monday 2nd June 15:01
I'll venture a (hopefully) useful post...
I drove a Tamora when I owned a Griff 500. I found it slower than the Griff though the handling was better. HOWEVER, I now own a Tuscan and I have realised that the reason the Tamora didn't feel as fast was simply down to my lack of ability with the throttle (being floor hinged as it is). I realised this as the Tuscan didn't feel fast either until I realised how much further down it goes!!
So my contribution is two fold, I believe the Tamora and Tuscan are faster than the Griff and the improved handling (the Tamora out handles the Tuscan by the way) lets you use the power. Secondly when you test drive it, make sure you press the fast pedal down sufficiently (takes a bit of getting used to!)
Cheers
DC
I drove a Tamora when I owned a Griff 500. I found it slower than the Griff though the handling was better. HOWEVER, I now own a Tuscan and I have realised that the reason the Tamora didn't feel as fast was simply down to my lack of ability with the throttle (being floor hinged as it is). I realised this as the Tuscan didn't feel fast either until I realised how much further down it goes!!
So my contribution is two fold, I believe the Tamora and Tuscan are faster than the Griff and the improved handling (the Tamora out handles the Tuscan by the way) lets you use the power. Secondly when you test drive it, make sure you press the fast pedal down sufficiently (takes a bit of getting used to!)
Cheers
DC
pss1 said: Flasher,
I understand your need to be defensive after your recent experiences with certain people on this board. However, jigs, although not as an owner, but as an experienced TVR owner (like yourself) posted an opinion. If we were all in the pub together having this discussion we would not, I hope, start a discussion, which quickly developed into a primary school name-calling session.
Jigs is not a tamora owner, I know that you were until recently but he has driven one. This makes his opinion carry less weight than your own but it does not give anyone the green light to rubbish his legitimate right to have his own opinions and express them as he sees fit. It is up to the initiator of this thread to sift-through the information that is posted. It is not our job to rubbish the views of others, if their views are rather less well informed or contrary to our own.
p.s. Jigs, we don't need obscure references to DIY stores on every thread... 'cos it hurts my brain.
Edited 'cos I can't type..
>> Edited by pss1 on Monday 2nd June 15:00
>> Edited by pss1 on Monday 2nd June 15:01
Point taken mate. I was trying not to be defensive and more to the point trying to get the point over that going on a short test drive isn't enough to have an opinion that the Tamora is "marginally" better than the Griff.
I still think the Griff is the ultimate classic TVR, despite it's obvious shortfallings in the handling dept. If I had to have one TVR and stick with it for the rest of my days I would probably pick the Griff above anything else. That doesn't mean that it drives anywhere near as good as a Tamora or T350C, and I think having done 12,000 miles in my Tamora, 18,000 in my Griff, 6,000 in a Cerb and 4500 in my T350C I am qualified to comment.
Anything else is an opinion, not based on experience. There is a huge difference between posting a genuine view and deliberatley posting a comment in an attempt to cause an argument. I have done this before but not on every thread on the site and not continuosly for two weeks like Jigs. It's unneccesary and is becoming tiresome, it also inteferes with genuine threads where people are looking for genuine opinions from real owners....
Anything else is an opinion, not based on experience. There is a huge difference between posting a genuine view and deliberatley posting a comment in an attempt to cause an argument. I have done this before but not on every thread on the site and not continuosly for two weeks like Jigs. It's unneccesary and is becoming tiresome, it also inteferes with genuine threads where people are looking for genuine opinions from real owners....
Agree with Flasher here. I visit this forum every so often for insight on Speed Six engines more than anything as I have a Tuscan and I will contribute to the topics when I think I have something useful to say. However I tend to think twice about posting when certain people are involved in a thread because it tends to deteriorate and the original point is lost.
I'm not saying lets not have fun, I'm sometimes the first to take the p155 where appropriate (I say sometimes because there are some fast fingers around here), but hijacking a topic with largely irrelevant postings doesn't help anyone.
I'm off back to the Tuscan forum now before I get flamed!
DC
I went from Chimaera to Tuscan primarily because i wanted a more modern type of car (and for the mental power and looks).
In time i am certain i will have a chimaera again in my stable, so to speak, as it provides a certain something, classic muscular lines, V8 enuff said there, unique interior and loads of bangs per buck.
But i will see it in a 'classic' light, and reserve it for special occasions.
In time i am certain i will have a chimaera again in my stable, so to speak, as it provides a certain something, classic muscular lines, V8 enuff said there, unique interior and loads of bangs per buck.
But i will see it in a 'classic' light, and reserve it for special occasions.
Flasher,
I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly and I agree that due weight must be given to the actual long term users of these cars. As an aside I have driven neither a Griffith or a Tamora but I must say I'd be rather dissappointed if TVR hadn't made any progress, in terms of performance and handling, in the 10 years between the launch of the two cars
I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly and I agree that due weight must be given to the actual long term users of these cars. As an aside I have driven neither a Griffith or a Tamora but I must say I'd be rather dissappointed if TVR hadn't made any progress, in terms of performance and handling, in the 10 years between the launch of the two cars
It would help if what I actually said was commented on and not what people think I said. Reread my comments on this thread and you will see that they are valid comments representing my sincere opinion.
They were offered to the author of this thread and no-one else. I respect others' opinions as being equally valid. All I ask is that my views are given the same respect.
Jigs
PS A little humour never hurt anyone!
They were offered to the author of this thread and no-one else. I respect others' opinions as being equally valid. All I ask is that my views are given the same respect.
Jigs
PS A little humour never hurt anyone!
I've just taken a Tamora for a test drive and humbly assess that compared to my Chimaera 500, which I've driven for 2 years and over 17,000 recreational miles, well, it's in another league. It quite simply does everything better than my 500 and I've just got to get one ... soon.
The number one difference has got to be the handling but overall it was just so enjoyable to be in a 'modern' TVR. Don't get me wrong, I still believe that my 500 is awesome, but the world moves on. The Spitfire was, and still is, an amazing aeroplane but you probably wouldn't want to go head to head against an F16 in one!
The number one difference has got to be the handling but overall it was just so enjoyable to be in a 'modern' TVR. Don't get me wrong, I still believe that my 500 is awesome, but the world moves on. The Spitfire was, and still is, an amazing aeroplane but you probably wouldn't want to go head to head against an F16 in one!
I started out with a 3000M, then went to my Chim 400, I have driven Cerbie's, Tuscan's, Tamora's & test drove a T350. Now while the each car got better and better handling the current Tamora & 350 are by far in my opinion the best handling car made by TVR currently.
While I would like to go for a 350C, I am being pulled by my first love back to the 3000M.
Why well a 3000M can dance better than anyother TVR including the Tamora.
I could be mad, may be insane,
but give me an M and I will be happy, of course, it all depends in what suspenison I put in my M !!!
Colin L
Going Slightly Mad
While I would like to go for a 350C, I am being pulled by my first love back to the 3000M.
Why well a 3000M can dance better than anyother TVR including the Tamora.
I could be mad, may be insane,
but give me an M and I will be happy, of course, it all depends in what suspenison I put in my M !!! Colin L
Going Slightly Mad
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