Hmmm Interesting... T350T
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Could be another daft suggestion but didn't the Smart Coupe, which was on Top Gear a couple of weeks ago, have a solution that could be adopted for the T350t. The smart had removeable rigid stiffener sections running along the tops of the doors. The central section was canvas, sort of like a glorified roller-blind thingy, which retracted into a rear integral roll bar. If anyone remembers this, maybe they could describe it a bit better than I can
Obviously the design would have to be beefed up for the TVR but it could be an alternative. Mind you I suppose those brainy people at Murky Ben's have got a patent on it...
Obviously the design would have to be beefed up for the TVR but it could be an alternative. Mind you I suppose those brainy people at Murky Ben's have got a patent on it...
RichB said: Excellent, I'll wait for the T350R i.e. the "R" for "roadster" versionRich...
Um, isn't that called the Tamora?
Have to say I'm a bit confused about all the fuss over a compromise roof off model.
Seems to be an uneccesary model in the range
Surely if you want the open top car you get the Tamora and if you want the closed car you get the T350. They are after all the same car...
Or am I missing something here?
Yes...
Mark_BT52 said:
RichB said: Excellent, I'll wait for the T350R i.e. the "R" for "roadster" version
Um, isn't that called the Tamora...
In your opinion... Yes
Have to say I'm a bit confused about all the fuss over a compromise roof off model.
In your opinion... Yes - is there a problem here?...
Seems to be an uneccesary model in the range
Surely if you want the open top car you get the Tamora and if you want the closed car you get the T350. They are after all the same car...
Yes, they are, but they look a bit different and so appeal to different folks....
There, that's better
>> Edited by nubbin (moderator) on Thursday 12th June 16:04
>> Edited by nubbin (moderator) on Thursday 12th June 21:57
999 was that last post really necessary, what were you trying to achieve.
Given that you are not driving your t350T that you agressively insisted that you would be driving in May. Against some gentle advice that (TVR have done this before to customers)it will probably be late,
Lots of owners in the past have been quoted on new model availabilty, it will be may, or june, now its definetly July, August etc - Griffith shown at 1990 motorshow, available 92, Griffith spped six orders eventually turning into a completely different car -tuscan - 3 years later on the road)
please lighten up, this board is just a discussion forum for car enthusiast. Would anyone be as agressive if they were just talking face - to face down the pub,
imho, of course ;-)
(edited to get to marks question)
the point that you are probably missing is a lot of people have expressed they would like a roadster TVR, but would (in their opinion) prefer the looks of the t350c front end compared to the tamora.
Personally the looks (now revised slightly) of the tamora have grown on me, but it can be a bit colour sensitive.
Whereas the t350 front end has looked good in all the colours I've seen.
I don't know why TVR could not do it they do seem to respond to customer demand (ie. if they dont get lots of new orderd for a new car shown at the motorshow, it tends not to make it in to production (cf Speed 8 and griffith shown at the same motorshow.)
After all the chimara/griffith (especially 500 versions) were virtually identical underneath, with just different body/cockpit styling.
B
>> Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 12th June 14:08
>> Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 12th June 14:21
Given that you are not driving your t350T that you agressively insisted that you would be driving in May. Against some gentle advice that (TVR have done this before to customers)it will probably be late,
Lots of owners in the past have been quoted on new model availabilty, it will be may, or june, now its definetly July, August etc - Griffith shown at 1990 motorshow, available 92, Griffith spped six orders eventually turning into a completely different car -tuscan - 3 years later on the road)
please lighten up, this board is just a discussion forum for car enthusiast. Would anyone be as agressive if they were just talking face - to face down the pub,
imho, of course ;-)
(edited to get to marks question)
the point that you are probably missing is a lot of people have expressed they would like a roadster TVR, but would (in their opinion) prefer the looks of the t350c front end compared to the tamora.
Personally the looks (now revised slightly) of the tamora have grown on me, but it can be a bit colour sensitive.
Whereas the t350 front end has looked good in all the colours I've seen.
I don't know why TVR could not do it they do seem to respond to customer demand (ie. if they dont get lots of new orderd for a new car shown at the motorshow, it tends not to make it in to production (cf Speed 8 and griffith shown at the same motorshow.)
After all the chimara/griffith (especially 500 versions) were virtually identical underneath, with just different body/cockpit styling.
B
>> Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 12th June 14:08
>> Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 12th June 14:21
bjwoods said: 999 was that last post really necessary, what were you trying to achieve.
Given that you are not driving your t350T that you agressively insisted that you would be driving in May. Against some gentle advice that (TVR have done this before to customers)it will probably be late,
Lots of owners in the past have been quoted on new model availabilty, it will be may, or june, now its definetly July, August etc - Griffith shown at 1990 motorshow, available 92, Griffith spped six orders eventually turning into a completely different car -tuscan - 3 years later on the road)
please lighten up, this board is just a discussion forum for car enthusiast. Would anyone be as agressive if they were just talking face - to face down the pub,
imho, of course ;-)
(edited to get to marks question)
the point that you are probably missing is a lot of people have expressed they would like a roadster TVR, but would (in their opinion) prefer the looks of the t350c front end compared to the tamora.
Personally the looks (now revised slightly) of the tamora have grown on me, but it can be a bit colour sensitive.
Whereas the t350 front end has looked good in all the colours I've seen.
I don't know why TVR could not do it they do seem to respond to customer demand (ie. if they dont get lots of new orderd for a new car shown at the motorshow, it tends not to make it in to production (cf Speed 8 and griffith shown at the same motorshow.)
After all the chimara/griffith (especially 500 versions) were virtually identical underneath, with just different body/cockpit styling.
B
>> Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 12th June 14:08
>> Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 12th June 14:21
I think 999 has made a point - though blunt.... However I want to ask what was the point of Marks post?
I personally don't think it achieved anything, nor asked/mentioned anything of value. I won't stand up for someone when they're wrong, but it seems to me that your response to 999 is slightly off centre itself.
If you read his posts - along with the other earlier T posts, and indeed the first post in this thread (mine), you will see that we (the early T customers) were all given the same information i.e. May delivery. So at the time these dates were quoted on this site, the information was indeed correct - so I think we need to take these comments in the context they were originally made...
In terms of lightening up, I'm afraid you're just having a dig cos 999 seems fair game....IMO he's asked what I was going to ask without resorting to wasting words.....
Tivster
>> Edited by Tivster on Thursday 12th June 15:03
***999*** You’re reply was very OTT. A blunt, rude and aggressive reply to a post, it’s no wonder this forum has suffered recently with comments like yours !!! You could have made your point within out the stupid reply that face to face would likely have involved claret flowing !!!
To partly quote you "Glad you gave a reply...really useful..."
!!
If Mark_BT52 didn’t/doesn’t get the T350T then so what. Voicing that he thought the T350T was:
1) unnecessary model in the range
2) Surely if you want the open top car you get the Tamora
and that
3) Or am I missing something here?
Sounds like a very valid post to me, not the work of a troll etc.
>> Edited by d_drinks on Thursday 12th June 15:48
To partly quote you "Glad you gave a reply...really useful..."
!! If Mark_BT52 didn’t/doesn’t get the T350T then so what. Voicing that he thought the T350T was:
1) unnecessary model in the range
2) Surely if you want the open top car you get the Tamora
and that
3) Or am I missing something here?
Sounds like a very valid post to me, not the work of a troll etc.
>> Edited by d_drinks on Thursday 12th June 15:48
Gentlemen, I think that's really quite enough!
I cannot understand why the subject of the T350t makes everyone get so hot under the collar. It won't be long now before they are available in the flesh.
You are all making valid points, so why not give each other a bit of slack, and read each other's posts without taking it, or making it, personal.
smile, everyone, TVR are at Le Mans! It's OUR weekend!!
>> Edited by nubbin (moderator) on Thursday 12th June 15:59
I cannot understand why the subject of the T350t makes everyone get so hot under the collar. It won't be long now before they are available in the flesh.
You are all making valid points, so why not give each other a bit of slack, and read each other's posts without taking it, or making it, personal.
smile, everyone, TVR are at Le Mans! It's OUR weekend!! >> Edited by nubbin (moderator) on Thursday 12th June 15:59
me Wasn't trolling, just trying to understand because from the way people are talking, a fully convertable T350 would be a different car to the Tamora and therefore I wondered if there were things about the T350 I wasn't aware of, or maybe that people didn't realise the T350's roots.
So basically what people REALLY want is a nose and tail facelift of the Tamora to resemble the T350 isn't it?
Tell you what. Think of it the other way round. If people started saying "I wish they'd do a hardtop coupe version of the Tamora", wouldn't you think that was an odd thing to say?
>> Edited by Mark_BT52 on Thursday 12th June 16:38
So basically what people REALLY want is a nose and tail facelift of the Tamora to resemble the T350 isn't it?
Tell you what. Think of it the other way round. If people started saying "I wish they'd do a hardtop coupe version of the Tamora", wouldn't you think that was an odd thing to say?
>> Edited by Mark_BT52 on Thursday 12th June 16:38
Well as this all kicked off as a result of my "off-the-cuff" remark, all I would say is that I like the Tamora from some angles but it wouldn't ever cause me to get my cheque book out, a roadster version of the T350 might well! Take it whatever way you like.
Mark_BT52 said:Um, isn't that called the Tamora? Have to say I'm a bit confused about all the fuss over a compromise roof off model. Seems to be an uneccesary model in the range. Surely if you want the open top car you get the Tamora and if you want the closed car you get the T350. They are after all the same car... Or am I missing something here?
RichB said: Excellent, I'll wait for the T350R i.e. the "R" for "roadster" version
Rich... Personally not too keen on the idea of identical models in the same range just with different badges and light arrangments. Stretches the credibility somewhat if you could get a coupe Tamora, a convertable T350, or maybe a version of either with a removeable hardtop and a larger boot...
All seems a bit VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat to me.
All seems a bit VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat to me.
Nubbin...why edit 999's post ?
If you didn't like it bin it, but to alter it is overstepping the mark IMO.
However back to the point - the small issue I had with Mark_BT52's post was the way he referred to the T's roof as a compromise and the T overall as an unneccessary addition to the range. Surely that is an opinion that can and should be challenged....It certainly wasn't supported by any explanation or evidence to support those comments
Christof's comments and those from Rods should really be the information that is talked about, cos that's what I for one would like to see.
However when someone appears from no-where and posts an easily misconstrued comment that could (did) get a reaction from someone else that's clearly fed up with the attitude of some on these forums then IMO
overzealous moderators actually worsen and prolong the problems..... no names no pack drill
Nubbin edit this if you must, but you'll only prove my point
Tivster
If you didn't like it bin it, but to alter it is overstepping the mark IMO.
However back to the point - the small issue I had with Mark_BT52's post was the way he referred to the T's roof as a compromise and the T overall as an unneccessary addition to the range. Surely that is an opinion that can and should be challenged....It certainly wasn't supported by any explanation or evidence to support those comments
Christof's comments and those from Rods should really be the information that is talked about, cos that's what I for one would like to see.
However when someone appears from no-where and posts an easily misconstrued comment that could (did) get a reaction from someone else that's clearly fed up with the attitude of some on these forums then IMO
overzealous moderators actually worsen and prolong the problems..... no names no pack drill
Nubbin edit this if you must, but you'll only prove my point
Tivster
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