RE: SCOOP: TVR Sagaris

RE: SCOOP: TVR Sagaris

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forrestgump

62 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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I like the look of it.
Those vents remind me of those Le Mans cars.... or will that be a Le Mans car?

goo-goo-gjoob

811 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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ok, it's not as refined looking as some of the others, but you must admit, it has to be one of the most aggressive looking cars ever made. It screams "You wanna race?". You could pull up to a stop light, and the guy in the car next to you will look at you and say "no thanks"!

docevi1

10,430 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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there are only 2 angles that thing looks good, top right and second from bottom left

It's just not right but then I would still drive one.

dans

1,137 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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This car needs an age rating...

front is superb, all the fins and vents just look like the batmobile, but (and it is a big Butt) we seem to have the second PH name of the day to be taken seriously by TVR. Saggyarse has been followed to the letter, the diffuser is just plain daft, as someone has said it is reminiscent of the carisma Cerbie, then there is the perspex thing. if you must have it there, do it in something else - like carbon fibre. Personally I don't care how well it works function can be achieved in better form than this....

Not that I am having a go - it is the best TVR they have ever made with engine, perfomance and aero upgrades so it will be an utterly brilliant car.. I'd guess there will be little to touch it on road or track. Well done for being brave and individual to TVR at least somebody does....

Trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Wow. TVR never cease to amaze me. Whether you like it or not it's certainly gobsmacking!

My understanding was that this was going to be the basis of a racing car - so all the gills and diffusers will be useful. I hope it becomes a winner on the track!

As for me buying one ... I think I prefer the cleaner lines of a T350C or T, but with the 400hp engine pleeeease.

Mind you, a black Sagaris would fit in my garage ...

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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bad boy said:

PetrolTed said:
Video of the car in motion is available on PistonHeads.TV


ted, is their a way videos can be downloaded and not just watched?


Yep, do a 'Save Target As' on the link.

FourWheelDrift

88,564 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Watching the video the front half up to the Windscreen looks good but the rest just looks out of place, too short, too small. It looks like the front end has been grafted from a bigger/longer car onto a T350C. And WTF is the roll of CF over the exhausts for???

Trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Mark_BT52 said:
For a car that is supposed to be more focused and more function over over form, why have they covered it in cosmetic rubbish of no practical use?

What possible purpose could all those slats over the front and rear wheels have?
What is the point of the rear facing roof vent, and SURELY there must be a better way of doing the rear spoiler...

Mark


Aerodynamics I guess. Let's the breeze out and keeps the car sucked onto the ground at a guess

T/. (no knowledge of aerodynamics)

griff2be

5,089 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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One can't help thinking that Ben '5 bonnets', Samuelson's bonnet budget is going to be astronomic if he races one of these in the Tuscan Challenge next year!!

HarryW

15,153 posts

270 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Like the overall look myself . Is it just me or do the two main vents in the middle of the bonnet look like they can open and close .
Superb scoop Ted .

Harry

Mark_BT52

95 posts

253 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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I guess TVR and MG must know something about aerodynamics that the rest of the world don't...

Mark

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Mark_BT52 said:
For a car that is supposed to be more focused and more function over over form, why have they covered it in cosmetic rubbish of no practical use?

What possible purpose could all those slats over the front and rear wheels have?
What is the point of the rear facing roof vent, and SURELY there must be a better way of doing the rear spoiler...

Mark


Know much about racecar aerodynamics Mark?

Slats over front/rear wheels reduce under wheelarch airpressure which can cause lift. Have a look at a Mosler or Saleen (and other GT cars) to see other examples.

Rear facing roof vent is probably a result of having to raise the roofline on the drivers side so that you can sit in the car with a helmet on.

Rear spoiler does look pants, but look at the Tuscan-S! The important thing is that it does a job.

Fact is, most spoilers are far more cosmetic than ground-force inducing. The 'chopped' read of the T350C would give good aerodynamic efficiency, but adding that lower spoiler thingy probably upsets the airflow a bit. Didn't see any sign of a diffuser? The small spoiler probably just helps settle the rear a bit.

All IMHO of course!

Beast

368 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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It has a prolapsed rectum.

TimW

Original Poster:

3,848 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Proberly not TVR just got some WACKY designer!!!

NickD

417 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Am really disappointed. It's fine I guess for racing purposes but for a road going version it really is too Max Power. As has been said before, the spoiler is stupid and the exhaust layout and rear cover is plain ridiculous. Give a 14 year old a T350C, a chain saw and a few bits of extra plastic and voila...

oh, and where is the fuel filler cap?

luca brazzi

3,975 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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WELL DONE Ted.....what a scoop. And top work on getting a video up so quickly.

Am I the only one reminded on an armadillo when seeing it in the video (and the stills probably)?

Do like it though. Damn mean, and in ya face.
LB

bad boy

821 posts

265 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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after watching the video, ihmo the rear bumper and perspex wing are just stupid, but get rid of them and a few of the slats on the bonnet and front wings and i think it might look alright.

j_s_g

6,177 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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HarryW said:
Like the overall look myself . Is it just me or do the two main vents in the middle of the bonnet look like they can open and close .


[Reaches for bat-wallet...]

I thought they looked positionable, too. Wonder if they'd stay in place with huge amounts of air-pressure on 'em, tho?

I'd rather they alter the back end to expose the exhausts normally, and if some kid doesn't pull the spoiler off, I will! But, personally, I really like it. Will just take a while to get used to the rear end. Plus, when you're driving one you'll only see the front end - everyone else'll get the rear view.

phips

48 posts

284 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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They've gone mad.

Whatever happened to the radical, but beautifully sleek, TVR? This just looks, to quote others, "Max Power" like. Stupid, utterly stupid.

--Phips

Mark_BT52

95 posts

253 months

Thursday 11th December 2003
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Stig, I know it doesn't need that many to do that job, could have been done far simpler.
I maintain they are cosmetic.