4.0 litre tamora whats that all about?

4.0 litre tamora whats that all about?

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nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Friday 19th April 2002
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I wouln't think the suspensin, nor the brakes, need upgrading. I'm not sur if 30-40 bhp would be worth £2-3000, either. the thing is faster than just about any car on the road anyway - there aren't many skylines, 911 turbos and F40's in darkest S. Yorks. So why bother? (But I might enquire at the factory, just for devilment!!)

bad boy

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821 posts

265 months

Friday 19th April 2002
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so the tamoras seem 2 be quite reliable so far then

flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Friday 19th April 2002
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Yeah, on the whole so far they seem to be fine. My oil pressure sensor has malfunctioned and the new dash software is causing trouble for everyone. But no-one seems to have mechanical trouble which is a very,very good sign........

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Friday 19th April 2002
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Yep. Went for a quick blast this afternoon, just to get the 18" wheels bedded in again (any excuse!), and got re-acqainted with the time warp speed of the thing!! Just fabulous!!

bad boy

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821 posts

265 months

Saturday 20th April 2002
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any other car ever kept up with u in it?

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Saturday 20th April 2002
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Sur - Flasher and gb in their Tamoras!. I was overtaken by an Impreza in the IOM, but I had strict orders from my girlfriend not to race, and I was on hoilday anyway. I've no doubt I would have made him eat dust if I'd bothered to try.

Actually, I've not really bothered to race people, only bikes. At least bikers appreciate the fun - car drivers take it all too much as an affront to their manhood....

flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Saturday 20th April 2002
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Had some geezer in a Lotus Elise trying to keep up today.......and he couldn't but kept catching up everytime I slowed for traffic apart from that Benno's 996 kept up, but his 456 GT couldn't cope with the corners like that although on a straight piece of road the Ferrari is boss...it does 193mph normal road conditions with bends, nothing is going to be quicker really......

hatchn

352 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Flasher when discussing engine number you said:

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Nick (hatchn) yours is 30 mine is 02, where do you get bloody 300 from?



My engine number ends with 2630, yours ends with 2402. This proves that the 24 part can't stand for 24 valves unless mine has 26 valves So if the last four digits are a sequential numbering system then the difference between 2630 and 2402 is 228 like I said





flasher

9,238 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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OK Nick!!! Mine being 02 would be logical, but since when were TVR ever logical about their numbering system?? If the latter was true then I would bet that they are all 4.0 litre engines..... They had 64 4.0 litre engines left in october when mine was built....make of that what you will.....

hatchn

352 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I think we can both agree on the fact that TVR just seem to chuck a random amount of letters and numbers towards an engine / chassis and see which ones stick.

tvradict

3,829 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I think it is safe to say that TVR aren't going to give a Yay or a Nay over the 4.0 litre engines! But there has to be a simple way of working out the capacity!! Working out the amount of air in piston one at BDC, something along those lines!!!

How can they be getting rid of the 4.0 litre six's if they are still putting them in the Cerb, and what about the Tuscan S?!?!

I'd be very dubious as to some of the cars being 4.0 and the rest being 3.6!!

I think the engine number could be more related to the number of six's built rather that number of a particular capacity built. that to me, would make more sense!

richb

51,645 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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...there has to be a simple way of working out the capacity!! Working out the amount of air in piston one at BDC, something along those lines!!!

Yep, like I said oil from a measuring jug will do the trick! R...
...Just take a plug out, turn the piston down to b.d.c and fill the bore with oil from a measuring jug. If you get 600cc of oil in it's a 3.6 ltr if you manage to squeeze in an extra 66cc then it's a 4.0...

kevinday

11,641 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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...there has to be a simple way of working out the capacity!! Working out the amount of air in piston one at BDC, something along those lines!!!

Yep, like I said oil from a measuring jug will do the trick! R...
...Just take a plug out, turn the piston down to b.d.c and fill the bore with oil from a measuring jug. If you get 600cc of oil in it's a 3.6 ltr if you manage to squeeze in an extra 66cc then it's a 4.0...



Erm, not quite right if my very basic engine knowledge is correct. The capacity is the swept volume and does not include the space the mixture is compressed into, therefore a 3.6 with a compression ratio of 10:1 will have a measuring jug capacity of 660cc per cylinder. I know you said fill the bore but how do you know when to stop putting oil in????

MikeyT

16,577 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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therefore a 3.6 with a compression ratio of 10:1 will have a measuring jug capacity of 660cc per cylinder.



Don't know if this is true or not, but if it is, you've just saved every owner who tries this coming on here and claiming 4 litres ...

richb

51,645 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Erm, not quite right if my very basic engine knowledge is correct.
Of course you are right, but then I wasn't being entirely serious 'cos in addition the hole for the spark plug might not be at the top of the combustion chamber, but I'm sure if I was determined I could work out a way to do it. R...

richb

51,645 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Right how about this then...
Set the piston at tdc. and fill with thin oil from a graduated pipette until the oil starts to overflow the spark plug hole. Measure this amount of oil. Now move the piston down to bdc. and fill with more oil from the pipette, calculate the volume of "additional" oil in the cylinder and this gives the swept volume of the cylinder, multiply by 6 and bingo... Do I get 10/10 for that, please teacher? Rich...?

MikeE

1,834 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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is it the bore or the stroke (or both) tha't less on the 3.6?

if it's the stroke it would be easy to measure this with a depth gause at tdc and bdc surely?

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Are we getting a bit carried away here?

I know I did earlier on this thread and I got a right roasting for it!

Be careful...

richb

51,645 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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No I don't think so, it's purely a hypothetical mathematical discussion now about the intricacies of measuring cylinder capacity without removing the head. Rich…

MikeyT

16,577 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Right, who with a Tamora has the balls to ring the factory and say their insurance has been on (after reading PHeads of course) and they think there may be an additional premium payable if the capacity is indeed 4 litres – can the factory please clarify the capacity of the engine ... they have the engine nos so they know the size of the engines right?