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michael gould said:
Some people just like adding bits to their cars....Yeti is the perfect example.....he spends oodles of money on his cars and good luck to him.....but I’m with you gorgeous....I’d rather spend the money on a DBS or V12V
Horses for courses, or as they say over here in the US and A... "Diff'rent strokes for Diff'rent folks!". I think people get into modifying cars for different reasons. A pure analysis of the finances involved in upgrading from V8 to V12 isn't the only one for sure. I can definitely relate to that, I was building my Triumph Spitfire into a racecar and with the amount of time/work/money it took several people said... why don't you just buy a faster car to start with, or buy a car that's already race-prepped. For some reason that just didn't appeal to me. It wasn't about entirely about the end game, it was the getting there and enjoying the process which I was after. I just think for a lot of people it is a hobby... they enjoy fettling and upgrading and personalising their cars to their taste. It is fun to go and drive your car 'after' a modification and enjoy feeling the difference and the improvement. It's not for everyone surely, but I think it is part of the human condition to never quite be satisfied with what you've got and to look to improve upon it. For some people that means saving their pennies for a newer/better model, and for some that means enjoying finding ways to strip weight or eke more performance from what they've got.
Like they say, diff'rent strokes...
Stuart Dickinson said:
I just think for a lot of people it is a hobby... they enjoy fettling and upgrading and personalising their cars to their taste. It is fun to go and drive your car 'after' a modification and enjoy feeling the difference and the improvement. It's not for everyone surely, but I think it is part of the human condition to never quite be satisfied with what you've got and to look to improve upon it. For some people that means saving their pennies for a newer/better model, and for some that means enjoying finding ways to strip weight or eke more performance from what they've got.
Like they say, diff'rent strokes...
Perfectly said Stuart - couldn't agree more!Like they say, diff'rent strokes...
Stuart Dickinson said:
If you paid £25K you would get two and enough money back to take the missus on a nice holiday!
Just read through the whole thread. So entertaining.
Can we have Jelly back please? He was funny!
And Cockman! Oh that made me laugh for a good 5 minutes at least! And the double entendres! Oh my days!
Pheeeeeeew! Ok, SC a V8V.
Yes the 4.3 could do with more low end. Just let the expert do the business (that is Bamford Mike).
But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines.
Aston are not concerned with the everyday issues that plunder general car makes, fuel economy, CO2 emissions, BHP per ton, DIESEL, lower insurance brackets yardiiyardiyar!
BUY AN AUDI!
IMO an Aston is about the "Aston-ness" of the car. It's big front/mid mounted engine with all the power coming from natural aspiration, fantastic noise, the comfort, style and presence. It's a gentleman's car with a bit of grunt if so desired.
No one (that I know of) drives their Aston like a boy racer. Sure we all have a tinkle on the gas from time to time, but surely the whole concept of super charging is more power, faster off the line, bigger figures to boast about?
Who buys an Aston for THAT?
BUY A DATSUN GTR OR 911Turbo (both £50k used!)
Style
Luxury
Presence
My last Aston was a DB7. I booted it up the motorway a few times, really only to listen to it! But generally drove slower to appreciate it, and let others appreciate it. And I was 27!
I've had a fun spatter with an old S3 turbo, remapped and modded to blast the crap out of most super cars. Cost me less than £5k! Great fun....till I started missing my Aston, and THAT feeling it gave me.
So now I have a V8V. My older brother has a DB9. We occasionally swap our cars.
We would never super charge these cars. They are great for public roads.
Please stop trying to turn the gentleman's car into something from The Only Way is Essex... (no offence to Essex Boy Racers....)
Can we have Jelly back please? He was funny!
And Cockman! Oh that made me laugh for a good 5 minutes at least! And the double entendres! Oh my days!
Pheeeeeeew! Ok, SC a V8V.
Yes the 4.3 could do with more low end. Just let the expert do the business (that is Bamford Mike).
But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines.
Aston are not concerned with the everyday issues that plunder general car makes, fuel economy, CO2 emissions, BHP per ton, DIESEL, lower insurance brackets yardiiyardiyar!
BUY AN AUDI!
IMO an Aston is about the "Aston-ness" of the car. It's big front/mid mounted engine with all the power coming from natural aspiration, fantastic noise, the comfort, style and presence. It's a gentleman's car with a bit of grunt if so desired.
No one (that I know of) drives their Aston like a boy racer. Sure we all have a tinkle on the gas from time to time, but surely the whole concept of super charging is more power, faster off the line, bigger figures to boast about?
Who buys an Aston for THAT?
BUY A DATSUN GTR OR 911Turbo (both £50k used!)
Style
Luxury
Presence
My last Aston was a DB7. I booted it up the motorway a few times, really only to listen to it! But generally drove slower to appreciate it, and let others appreciate it. And I was 27!
I've had a fun spatter with an old S3 turbo, remapped and modded to blast the crap out of most super cars. Cost me less than £5k! Great fun....till I started missing my Aston, and THAT feeling it gave me.
So now I have a V8V. My older brother has a DB9. We occasionally swap our cars.
We would never super charge these cars. They are great for public roads.
Please stop trying to turn the gentleman's car into something from The Only Way is Essex... (no offence to Essex Boy Racers....)
stevewushu said:
Just read through the whole thread. So entertaining.
Can we have Jelly back please? He was funny!
And Cockman! Oh that made me laugh for a good 5 minutes at least! And the double entendres! Oh my days!
Pheeeeeeew! Ok, SC a V8V.
Yes the 4.3 could do with more low end. Just let the expert do the business (that is Bamford Mike).
But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines.
Aston are not concerned with the everyday issues that plunder general car makes, fuel economy, CO2 emissions, BHP per ton, DIESEL, lower insurance brackets yardiiyardiyar!
BUY AN AUDI!
IMO an Aston is about the "Aston-ness" of the car. It's big front/mid mounted engine with all the power coming from natural aspiration, fantastic noise, the comfort, style and presence. It's a gentleman's car with a bit of grunt if so desired.
No one (that I know of) drives their Aston like a boy racer. Sure we all have a tinkle on the gas from time to time, but surely the whole concept of super charging is more power, faster off the line, bigger figures to boast about?
Who buys an Aston for THAT?
BUY A DATSUN GTR OR 911Turbo (both £50k used!)
Style
Luxury
Presence
My last Aston was a DB7. I booted it up the motorway a few times, really only to listen to it! But generally drove slower to appreciate it, and let others appreciate it. And I was 27!
I've had a fun spatter with an old S3 turbo, remapped and modded to blast the crap out of most super cars. Cost me less than £5k! Great fun....till I started missing my Aston, and THAT feeling it gave me.
So now I have a V8V. My older brother has a DB9. We occasionally swap our cars.
We would never super charge these cars. They are great for public roads.
Please stop trying to turn the gentleman's car into something from The Only Way is Essex... (no offence to Essex Boy Racers....)
I respect your point of view. We all buy cars for different reasons, all get different things out of them. It's surprising that it bothers people so much what other's do to their cars... gentlemen...Essex. Sounds classist to me?Can we have Jelly back please? He was funny!
And Cockman! Oh that made me laugh for a good 5 minutes at least! And the double entendres! Oh my days!
Pheeeeeeew! Ok, SC a V8V.
Yes the 4.3 could do with more low end. Just let the expert do the business (that is Bamford Mike).
But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines.
Aston are not concerned with the everyday issues that plunder general car makes, fuel economy, CO2 emissions, BHP per ton, DIESEL, lower insurance brackets yardiiyardiyar!
BUY AN AUDI!
IMO an Aston is about the "Aston-ness" of the car. It's big front/mid mounted engine with all the power coming from natural aspiration, fantastic noise, the comfort, style and presence. It's a gentleman's car with a bit of grunt if so desired.
No one (that I know of) drives their Aston like a boy racer. Sure we all have a tinkle on the gas from time to time, but surely the whole concept of super charging is more power, faster off the line, bigger figures to boast about?
Who buys an Aston for THAT?
BUY A DATSUN GTR OR 911Turbo (both £50k used!)
Style
Luxury
Presence
My last Aston was a DB7. I booted it up the motorway a few times, really only to listen to it! But generally drove slower to appreciate it, and let others appreciate it. And I was 27!
I've had a fun spatter with an old S3 turbo, remapped and modded to blast the crap out of most super cars. Cost me less than £5k! Great fun....till I started missing my Aston, and THAT feeling it gave me.
So now I have a V8V. My older brother has a DB9. We occasionally swap our cars.
We would never super charge these cars. They are great for public roads.
Please stop trying to turn the gentleman's car into something from The Only Way is Essex... (no offence to Essex Boy Racers....)
I wonder if AM had gone straight to a V12V this thread wouldn't even exist?
For the £20k SC upgrade how "usable" in real world driving is it compared to std, BR upgrade or 4.7 V8? Or is it more a case of...
"yes your car may have 500bhp, my SUPERCHARGED V8V has MORE, so therefore it's faster and more powerful, thus meaning I am better than you in every way". (pub talk....or am I being "classist" again...?)
because, unless you plan to race it against other fast cars either tracked or illegally, that sort of power is rarely needed under normal (safe) driving conditions, the std power is ample to do any overtaking etc. or is it coz you wanna GO FASTER!? Yes? Buy a Datsun GTR.
On a completely superficial note, I prefer to roll up to my destination with my AM not covered in flies, stone chips, hot smelly engine and the Fuzz 1/2 a mile behind me....
But that's just Horses for Courses...or am I being too British? I mean "different strokes..."
C'mon Mr Jellyman have a say!
It's all in good spirit!
Think I'm gonna go drive around town slowly today so I can pose and pretend to be posh in my non SC AM!
For the £20k SC upgrade how "usable" in real world driving is it compared to std, BR upgrade or 4.7 V8? Or is it more a case of...
"yes your car may have 500bhp, my SUPERCHARGED V8V has MORE, so therefore it's faster and more powerful, thus meaning I am better than you in every way". (pub talk....or am I being "classist" again...?)
because, unless you plan to race it against other fast cars either tracked or illegally, that sort of power is rarely needed under normal (safe) driving conditions, the std power is ample to do any overtaking etc. or is it coz you wanna GO FASTER!? Yes? Buy a Datsun GTR.
On a completely superficial note, I prefer to roll up to my destination with my AM not covered in flies, stone chips, hot smelly engine and the Fuzz 1/2 a mile behind me....
But that's just Horses for Courses...or am I being too British? I mean "different strokes..."
C'mon Mr Jellyman have a say!
It's all in good spirit!
Think I'm gonna go drive around town slowly today so I can pose and pretend to be posh in my non SC AM!
There is always room for more power, hen you don't want it you just use a light right foot. It can get silly after a while when you need driver aids just to accelerate in a straight line but the standard (slightly modified 
) DB9 could do with more hence my upcoming work. As to a 4.3... I've never driven one but the car isn't much lighter than a DB9 and 100bhp down, so... >shrugs< It's horses for courses as mentioned.
Plenty of times in the last few days with warmer tarmac that I had all the grip and not quite enough without dropping into second gear for an overtake. Yes I'm talking torque as well but happily the two go hand in hand
) DB9 could do with more hence my upcoming work. As to a 4.3... I've never driven one but the car isn't much lighter than a DB9 and 100bhp down, so... >shrugs< It's horses for courses as mentioned. Plenty of times in the last few days with warmer tarmac that I had all the grip and not quite enough without dropping into second gear for an overtake. Yes I'm talking torque as well but happily the two go hand in hand
Jockman said:
Georgeous...I think this means Stuart would RATHER you went to Bamford Rose...he's just being gentle with you
I agree with Steve...probably the thread of last year.
Bring Jellyhead back, I say
He doesn't need to be gentle with me. If he wants to tell me to fI agree with Steve...probably the thread of last year.
Bring Jellyhead back, I say
k off then so be it I forgot about cockman too.... Jellison might have had a point
George H said:
He doesn't need to be gentle with me. If he wants to tell me to fk off then so be it
Don't want to tell you that at all. Honestly, I made that comment 100 percent at face value and I really meant what I said, I'm happy to see people go to whomever they want and do whatever they want to their cars and I do think BR is a great outfit! k off then so be it It is amusing how easily the blue-skinned jedi master can pull the younglings strings
I think it's great we have choices at the moment to make more power and torque without just bolting on turboes for the traffic-light dash or McDonalds car park bragging rights. N/A or SC is personal choice, both have long heritage with Aston.
My non-engineers brain screams 'no' at the thought of 500bhp on standard internals but the arguments are very convincing and the standard mechanicals are known to be very strong.
I think it's great we have choices at the moment to make more power and torque without just bolting on turboes for the traffic-light dash or McDonalds car park bragging rights. N/A or SC is personal choice, both have long heritage with Aston.
My non-engineers brain screams 'no' at the thought of 500bhp on standard internals but the arguments are very convincing and the standard mechanicals are known to be very strong.
stevewushu said:
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But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines....
You're not that up on your recent Aston history then...?But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines....
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...
stevewushu said:
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Please stop trying to turn the gentleman's car into something from The Only Way is Essex... (no offence to Essex Boy Racers....)
I've only been in the county for 6mths, but have already realised that programs like that are doing the rest of the county huge favours. It's beautiful here, and TOWIE keeps bigoted oiks off some of the best driving roads in the country Please stop trying to turn the gentleman's car into something from The Only Way is Essex... (no offence to Essex Boy Racers....)
But don't go telling anyone. Our little secret.Murph7355 said:
stevewushu said:
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But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines....
You're not that up on your recent Aston history then...?But there is something fundamentally "Aston" about having N/A engines....
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/...
I was going to mention Aston's history of supercharging. It's amazing to me that Aston once produced some of the most powerful production cars on the planet. The twin supercharged Vantage had 550 bhp and a top speed of 200 mph, in the 90s! As if that weren't enough, they then produced a 600 bhp version, again back in the 90s. Although I prefer NA engines, I can't say that I'd turn up my nose at a supercharged car from the factory. It would help Aston keep up with its competitors. While Aston doesn't need to produce the most powerful car in the market (which at this point would be ridiculous given where the top numbers are), I don't think they should fall too far back either.
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