RSC - Blown V8 Vantage - Order yours Now
Discussion
jellison said:
Brakes are one thing I doubt the V8V will need, for a new /modern car that are some of the biggest I've seen and in std form don't have much to do / have an easy job, so plenty of room there (maybe maximum of a tad harder pad).
I disagree I've managed to fade mine driving round the alps 
mikey k said:
jellison said:
Brakes are one thing I doubt the V8V will need, for a new /modern car that are some of the biggest I've seen and in std form don't have much to do / have an easy job, so plenty of room there (maybe maximum of a tad harder pad).
I disagree I've managed to fade mine driving round the alps on the brakes front I think the Vantage is pretty sorted too, most racers you see have done nothing more than swap pads to Pagid RS15 or similar
I agree with Mikey on this too; I ran a supercharged Honda K20A in the back of my old Elise, the conversion company were/are at the premium end of their market price wise, but a no quibble, whole drivetrain, 12 months warranty was provided for piece of mind (inc trackday use) ...now thats condfidence in your product
Id certainly want my engine given a "health check" by the installer and at least a 12 month warranty on the lot (bar wear items like clutch)
...still it dosent make financial sense to me unless it comes in less than £15K fitted though ...I really cant see many UK owners spending £20-20K on even a £40K 5 year old car and not having an engine warranty
maybe theres a market for it in the US, but it will be rare over here (unless the exchange rate goes back to 2:1 soon)
....personally Id sooner have a dedicated track toy for £25K rather than a bolt on blower on my road going sportscar
I agree with Mikey on this too; I ran a supercharged Honda K20A in the back of my old Elise, the conversion company were/are at the premium end of their market price wise, but a no quibble, whole drivetrain, 12 months warranty was provided for piece of mind (inc trackday use) ...now thats condfidence in your product
Id certainly want my engine given a "health check" by the installer and at least a 12 month warranty on the lot (bar wear items like clutch)
...still it dosent make financial sense to me unless it comes in less than £15K fitted though ...I really cant see many UK owners spending £20-20K on even a £40K 5 year old car and not having an engine warranty
maybe theres a market for it in the US, but it will be rare over here (unless the exchange rate goes back to 2:1 soon)
....personally Id sooner have a dedicated track toy for £25K rather than a bolt on blower on my road going sportscar
bogie said:
on the brakes front I think the Vantage is pretty sorted too, most racers you see have done nothing more than swap pads to Pagid RS15 or similar
I agree with Mikey on this too; I ran a supercharged Honda K20A in the back of my old Elise, the conversion company were/are at the premium end of their market price wise, but a no quibble, whole drivetrain, 12 months warranty was provided for piece of mind (inc trackday use) ...now thats condfidence in your product
Id certainly want my engine given a "health check" by the installer and at least a 12 month warranty on the lot (bar wear items like clutch)
...still it dosent make financial sense to me unless it comes in less than £15K fitted though ...I really cant see many UK owners spending £20-20K on even a £40K 5 year old car and not having an engine warranty
maybe theres a market for it in the US, but it will be rare over here (unless the exchange rate goes back to 2:1 soon)
....personally Id sooner have a dedicated track toy for £25K rather than a bolt on blower on my road going sportscar
I'd think this would have to come with a drivetrain warranty or it would be a non-starter. I'm sure we will here. What i sthe big deal of spending 20k on a 40k SH car to get well over 100k performance.I agree with Mikey on this too; I ran a supercharged Honda K20A in the back of my old Elise, the conversion company were/are at the premium end of their market price wise, but a no quibble, whole drivetrain, 12 months warranty was provided for piece of mind (inc trackday use) ...now thats condfidence in your product
Id certainly want my engine given a "health check" by the installer and at least a 12 month warranty on the lot (bar wear items like clutch)
...still it dosent make financial sense to me unless it comes in less than £15K fitted though ...I really cant see many UK owners spending £20-20K on even a £40K 5 year old car and not having an engine warranty
maybe theres a market for it in the US, but it will be rare over here (unless the exchange rate goes back to 2:1 soon)
....personally Id sooner have a dedicated track toy for £25K rather than a bolt on blower on my road going sportscar
My earlier point about them being slow - let me clarify.
Not so much slow, more that I expected more (and I bet alot of owners did when they first got em), Awesome noise and lot sof Revs, but you never seem to really get a Kick or Punch that you'd expect (if you exclude the noise), they just don't go as fast as they should. Maybe the 4.7 helps.
jellison said:
Brakes are one thing I doubt the V8V will need, for a new /modern car that are some of the biggest I've seen and in std form don't have much to do / have an easy job, so plenty of room there (maybe maximum of a tad harder pad).
That's not the point. In comparing relative value against a V12V you have to compare apples with apples. If your (mate's) RSC equipped, equivalent age/mileage V8 cost say 4k less, but is lacking 20k of brakes that come as std on the V12, it's relative value is somewhat eroded. Let alone all the other shortfalls.
At the end of the day, for use on public roads the V8V is not really lacking in power either if we follow your rationale on brakes. I would bet if you set off in your TVR and I in my V8 for a long cross country journey, there would likely be nothing in arrival times. I'd equally bet I'd get out the other end feeling significantly fresher.
As Bogie notes, 10k-15k with a proper warranty to give confidence they've tested properly might see people seriously considering it. Anything less and I honestly think their Market will be very, very limited.
Murph7355 said:
At the end of the day, for use on public roads the V8V is not really lacking in power either if we follow your rationale on brakes. I would bet if you set off in your TVR and I in my V8 for a long cross country journey, there would likely be nothing in arrival times. I'd equally bet I'd get out the other end feeling significantly fresher.
I'd take this a stage further.The V8V is fine for A&B road blasts in the real world.
When you want to
One factor missed here is you don't always want a blast when you own an Aston.
I never understood this until I got mine.
A lot of the time I just enjoy the experience and reactions of those around you @ "normal" speeds
It doesn't have to be a break neck blast to be an event.
jellison said:
'd think this would have to come with a drivetrain warranty or it would be a non-starter. I'm sure we will here. What i sthe big deal of spending 20k on a 40k SH car to get well over 100k performance.
You can get that sort of performance (well better) from a Nissan GTR £50k done deal for a year old one and it has the remainder of it's 2 year warranty, you would have 10K to spend on tuning and your looking at around 700-800Bhp so bang for bucks it's not looking so good is it!jellison said:
'd think this would have to come with a drivetrain warranty or it would be a non-starter. I'm sure we will here. What i sthe big deal of spending 20k on a 40k SH car to get well over 100k performance.
jellyhead - You are just not comparing like with like here! A 40K V8 will be around 5yrs old. For the £100k you state for a V12V you will get a 2010 model most likely. Source yourself a 2010 V8V (same age) and you will find it will cost around £70k-£80k and then add the RSC blower kit and you end up with a £100k car again to compare to a £100k V12V. Now suddenly you see the RSC blower isnt the same great value and for my money I would stick with a factory V12V! Imagine if there were 5yr old V12V's out there too - once again the RSC conversion would suddenly look poor value for money!You cannot compare a tarted up 5yr old car with a 1yr old car offering "the same performance" out of the factory. I accept that the RSC is a viable option for somebody who wants V12V straight line performance but can't afford one and is prepared to run around in an old tarted up car. For anybody who can afford the V12V the buying a V8V and adding the RSC option isnt at all interesting.
So I am afraid that your statement of getting "£100k performance" or the RSC conversion being "better than a V12V" is just meaningless pub banter.
Aside from all that as pointed out by other posters, there is far far more to the V12V than just the power of the engine - and by your comments on the V12V's handling that it is clear to see that you havnt driven one!
mikey k said:
One factor missed here is you don't always want a blast when you own an Aston.
I never understood this until I got mine.
A lot of the time I just enjoy the experience and reactions of those around you @ "normal" speeds
It doesn't have to be a break neck blast to be an event.
Well said Mr K.I never understood this until I got mine.
A lot of the time I just enjoy the experience and reactions of those around you @ "normal" speeds
It doesn't have to be a break neck blast to be an event.
On a normal motorway I drive normally, at about 90mph. Very enjoyable. Very satisfying.
I then hit the M6 Toll and floor it to 158mph. Very enjoyable. Very satisfying
You get this warm feeling permeating your slippers
IM NUTS2 said:
You can get that sort of performance (well better) from a Nissan GTR £50k done deal for a year old one and it has the remainder of it's 2 year warranty, you would have 10K to spend on tuning and your looking at around 700-800Bhp so bang for bucks it's not looking so good is it!
True, but then you end up with a Nissan. Might be a very fast one, but it's still a Nissan and it would put me right off.
Adam2S said:
jellison said:
'd think this would have to come with a drivetrain warranty or it would be a non-starter. I'm sure we will here. What i sthe big deal of spending 20k on a 40k SH car to get well over 100k performance.
jellyhead - You are just not comparing like with like here! A 40K V8 will be around 5yrs old. For the £100k you state for a V12V you will get a 2010 model most likely. Source yourself a 2010 V8V (same age) and you will find it will cost around £70k-£80k and then add the RSC blower kit and you end up with a £100k car again to compare to a £100k V12V. Now suddenly you see the RSC blower isnt the same great value and for my money I would stick with a factory V12V! Imagine if there were 5yr old V12V's out there too - once again the RSC conversion would suddenly look poor value for money!You cannot compare a tarted up 5yr old car with a 1yr old car offering "the same performance" out of the factory. I accept that the RSC is a viable option for somebody who wants V12V straight line performance but can't afford one and is prepared to run around in an old tarted up car. For anybody who can afford the V12V the buying a V8V and adding the RSC option isnt at all interesting.
So I am afraid that your statement of getting "£100k performance" or the RSC conversion being "better than a V12V" is just meaningless pub banter.
Aside from all that as pointed out by other posters, there is far far more to the V12V than just the power of the engine - and by your comments on the V12V's handling that it is clear to see that you havnt driven one!
I'm sure they are nice - No I have ZERO interest in modern cars.
But 1700kg - laughable.
George H said:
jellison said:
plitting hairs!!
I'm sure they are nice - No I have ZERO interest in modern cars.
But 1680kg - laughable.
This ruined V8V that you have on offer for us is only 30kg lighter. But you seem to keep forgetting that.I'm sure they are nice - No I have ZERO interest in modern cars.
But 1680kg - laughable.
Anyway - this coming from someone that has an Aston with the Roof cut of hardly helps (i.e. Cruising(!) rather than Driving!).
jellison said:
hat are you on about? That number is for the Fat boy V12 - the V8 is 1570 according to Ultimatecarpage.
Anyway - this coming from someone that has an Aston with the Roof cut of hardly helps (i.e. Cruising(!) rather than Driving!).
Try doing your research before coming on here quoting incorrect facts and figures.Anyway - this coming from someone that has an Aston with the Roof cut of hardly helps (i.e. Cruising(!) rather than Driving!).
From Aston Martin's website:
V8V
http://astonmartin.com/cars/v8-vantage-coupe/specs
V12V
http://astonmartin.com/cars/v12-vantage/specs
You also drive a convertible, I guess you aren't interested in driving either.
Pugsey said:
jellison said:
And way less weight hanging ou front (understeer)!
Ok I gave you a chance! But REALLY - you haven't driven a V12V have you. I mean DRIVEN not 'been in a mates'!I'll leave you to it. As for Quinny, go f
k yourself.- I'll leave anymore to RSC if they care to comment (but I can't see the UK being much of an Area worth bothing with for this Conversion).
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