V8V Depreciation

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Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Currently 2007 V8Vs seem to be losing approx £6k to £7k per year, at least they have in the last year. What is the view of this over the next one to two years, do people see that same level of depreciation continuing?

Mako V12V

3,135 posts

215 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Anyone got a crystal ball? tongue out

bogie

16,406 posts

273 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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who knows ...but with fewer new car sales and lack of cheap finance for anyone on minimum wage I think it will settle down..simple market dynamics, less available cars and lots of people that would like one

5 year old cars are £30K trade (ish) ...until people start putting 80-100K miles on em, I think it will steady out for a while

V8 Animal

5,928 posts

211 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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On that basis in less than 10 years they will be free.biggrin

But i do take your point they will bottom out in the next 2 years i would of thought.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
Currently 2007 V8Vs seem to be losing approx £6k to £7k per year, at least they have in the last year. What is the view of this over the next one to two years, do people see that same level of depreciation continuing?
Dave, your posting is a wee bit muddled in that it is superimposing a straight line methodology over what is essentially a reducing balance depreciation. You would be better thinking in %s each year otherwise you will arrive at a value of zero which is unrealistic.

Even then a higher % is noticeable in the first few years (theoretically), levelling out to say 10% after a certain period of time, say 5 years or so.

Thus, I would suggest your scenario is about to hit a level depreciation and so no, £6k to £7k may not be constant but the % on the reduced balance may well be.

Off for me fry up now smile

Calculator

746 posts

216 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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At £35-40k for an early car, these look like a steal. I would have thought that as a 3yr ownership proposition, they will be one of the most cost efective ways of owning a 'supercar'.

Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
Dave, your posting is a wee bit muddled in that it is superimposing a straight line methodology over what is essentially a reducing balance depreciation. You would be better thinking in %s each year otherwise you will arrive at a value of zero which is unrealistic.

Even then a higher % is noticeable in the first few years (theoretically), levelling out to say 10% after a certain period of time, say 5 years or so.

Thus, I would suggest your scenario is about to hit a level depreciation and so no, £6k to £7k may not be constant but the % on the reduced balance may well be.

Off for me fry up now smile
Your right Jockman, I should have put things in the form of a percentage depreciation number. Just wondering if I had kept my car for another year or two what hit I would have taken. All will be revealed in the fullness of time I guess.


Boy could I eat a fry up right now, had to make do with some cornflakes frown

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
Boy could I eat a fry up right now, had to make do with some cornflakes frown
My diet means I shall 'depreciate' more quickly than you Dave smile

alxce

417 posts

222 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Every time I see one of these depreciation threads it reminds me of my time on the Porsche forum where people seem to be infatuated with it - along with their engines going pop that is. One thing is for sure, you buy an AMV8 it will depreciate at a level you have no control over. If that isn't palatable, use the money to buy a good 996 GT3 or 993 Turbo and minimise your future losses.
Only downside is that you still won't be driving an Aston Martin smile

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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alxce said:
Every time I see one of these depreciation threads it reminds me of my time on the Porsche forum where people seem to be infatuated with it - along with their engines going pop that is. One thing is for sure, you buy an AMV8 it will depreciate at a level you have no control over. If that isn't palatable, use the money to buy a good 996 GT3 or 993 Turbo and minimise your future losses.
Only downside is that you still won't be driving an Aston Martin smile
Agreed. Best not to get besotted with it. If you are depreciation-averse then opt for the V12V out of the current fleet.

There are far too many variables out of your control, especially in the macro-environment. Government road building / speed / Co2 policies, potential product recalls, limited editions, expanding product portfolios etc can all impinge upon the value of your car.

Best just to enjoy it I say smile

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
Agreed. Best not to get besotted with it. If you are depreciation-averse then opt for the V12V out of the current fleet.
Or get a classic smile

Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
Best just to enjoy it I say smile
or bottle it like me and sell banghead

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
or bottle it like me and sell banghead
Think of it this way Dave.

You could now buy your car back CHEAPER than your original payment for it.

And so depreciation has worked in your favour biggrin

Job's a good 'un. My work here is done.

Bacon and black pudding toastie for brunch methinks smile

Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
Think of it this way Dave.

You could now buy your car back CHEAPER than your original payment for it.

And so depreciation has worked in your favour biggrin

Job's a good 'un. My work here is done.

Bacon and black pudding toastie for brunch methinks smile
Good way of looking at it, could buy back the car I just sold for £2.50 and a ballon on a stick if I wait long enough smile

Although less sure about the black pudding

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
Although less sure about the black pudding
It's making a comeback Dave (outside the southwest), especially with a little scallop perched on top.

I fear the cornflakes have eroded your tastebuds.

I heard many years ago that the Quakers created cornflakes as a cure for masturbation, and that currently there is more nutritional value in the cardboard box than in the edible contents. Could be old wives' tales ?

Be better if you could fry them smile

Calculator

746 posts

216 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
alxce said:
Every time I see one of these depreciation threads it reminds me of my time on the Porsche forum where people seem to be infatuated with it - along with their engines going pop that is. One thing is for sure, you buy an AMV8 it will depreciate at a level you have no control over. If that isn't palatable, use the money to buy a good 996 GT3 or 993 Turbo and minimise your future losses.
Only downside is that you still won't be driving an Aston Martin smile
Agreed. Best not to get besotted with it. If you are depreciation-averse then opt for the V12V out of the current fleet.

There are far too many variables out of your control, especially in the macro-environment. Government road building / speed / Co2 policies, potential product recalls, limited editions, expanding product portfolios etc can all impinge upon the value of your car.

Best just to enjoy it I say smile
There are variables outside of our control with any purchase decision, though I certainly agree with the 'just enjoy it' sentiment. For the vast majority of owners, depreciation is something which does need consideration and discussion on an informed forum like this is a good medium for that, if only to make us comfortable with whatever we decide.

Any other approach could be considered reckless.

Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
I heard many years ago that the Quakers created cornflakes as a cure for masturbation, and that currently there is more nutritional value in the cardboard box than in the edible contents. Could be old wives' tales ?

Be better if you could fry them smile
That could explain a few things, there was me thinking it was the ageing process, when it was the cornflakes all along wink

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Calculator said:
Any other approach could be considered reckless.
Not too sure about the 'reckless' bit, but not many people buy these cars from a tangible investment stance. It's the non-tangibles that seem to take precedence. At the purchase point your heart and your head are not in tandem so to speak.

Most people would view the depreciation as an allowable and affordable cost to owning a gorgeous car.

BTW we need to agree to disagree on the 'supercar' label smile


michael gould

5,691 posts

242 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Calculator said:
At £35-40k for an early car, these look like a steal. I would have thought that as a 3yr ownership proposition, they will be one of the most cost efective ways of owning a 'supercar'.
Not sure I would call an Aston a "super car”.....with regard to depreciation, buy a 4 or 5 year old one it will then depreciate at about the same level as a new 25k VW but because its older you’re more likely to have higher maintenance bills.....this subject has been done to death.....lets talk about Jockmans black pudding breakfast...far more interesting

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
That could explain a few things, there was me thinking it was the ageing process, when it was the cornflakes all along wink
Might I suggest Porridge as a reliable antidote ??

Let's face it Dave, you're unlikely to meet a bigger wker than me biggrin