V8V Depreciation

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Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
Might I suggest Porridge as a reliable antidote ??
Porridge now ordered!

krisdelta

4,566 posts

202 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Hi Dave,

You only realise depreciation if you sell smile ultimately there are a few factors in play:

1) if you buy at a dealer and sell private / sell to dealer - you'll lose the "spread" of retail to trade / private value without any miles going on the car.
2) The market at the moment is not a good place - if you look at all the sales in the last month (there have only been a handful looking at PH / AT) are all @ the £36-38k mark covering 2006/2007 cars with a good spec and warranty - big engined cars aren't shifting (my mint M3 took ages to shift and I had to drop my price significantly to get interest).
3) There is a shortage of credit, at a reasonable price.
4) Supply - there seem to be @ 280 V8V's for sale (incl roadsters) - I think a year ago there was around 50% less for sale.

What I mean is - why not keep the car? smile It's zero depreciation if you don't sell.

Southwestdave

Original Poster:

161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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krisdelta said:
Hi Dave,

You only realise depreciation if you sell smile ultimately there are a few factors in play:

1) if you buy at a dealer and sell private / sell to dealer - you'll lose the "spread" of retail to trade / private value without any miles going on the car.
2) The market at the moment is not a good place - if you look at all the sales in the last month (there have only been a handful looking at PH / AT) are all @ the £36-38k mark covering 2006/2007 cars with a good spec and warranty - big engined cars aren't shifting (my mint M3 took ages to shift and I had to drop my price significantly to get interest).
3) There is a shortage of credit, at a reasonable price.
4) Supply - there seem to be @ 280 V8V's for sale (incl roadsters) - I think a year ago there was around 50% less for sale.

What I mean is - why not keep the car? smile It's zero depreciation if you don't sell.
I can’t tell you how much I have gone round in my head as to which way to jump. The plan was always to keep the car a year and I went in with my eyes open, I knew I would take a hit when I sold (although it was still bigger than I anticipated).

Having said all that, would not change a thing about buying the car. I paid top money as bought from a dealer as like many people I needed a level of reassurance when buying such a car. In some ways that proved to be the right approach.

Suspect I might live to regret selling now and perhaps should have kept it for another year or two. But the deal is done so I need to start looking around for something fun, but cheaper. Lotus Elise is on the shopping list amongst other things.

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Jockman said:
...you're unlikely to meet a bigger wker than me biggrin
Agreed.



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Tyson1980

712 posts

157 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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I'm currently shopping around for one as a weekend car.

They seem to be excellent value for money....

Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Tyson1980 said:
I'm currently shopping around for one as a weekend car.

They seem to be excellent value for money....
Do you mean shopping for an Elise or Aston?

Tyson1980

712 posts

157 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
Do you mean shopping for an Elise or Aston?
Apologies,

Aston

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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michael gould said:
Not sure I would call an Aston a "super car”...
Certainly not a V8 Vantage!! But the V12V makes a compelling case as do a few oldies... The V600LM for example?

The One-77 goes without saying!

The others are GTs and there' nothing wrong with that. The V8 Vantage is just a toy car though, Aston's Boxster if you will wink

V8 Animal

5,928 posts

211 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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yeti said:
Certainly not a V8 Vantage!! But the V12V makes a compelling case as do a few oldies... The V600LM for example?

The One-77 goes without saying!

The others are GTs and there' nothing wrong with that. The V8 Vantage is just a toy car though, Aston's Boxster if you will wink
Expensive toy eek

krisdelta

4,566 posts

202 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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So you've already sold? That's good news in the current climate smile

Elise's are fun - except for the falling in / crawling out business! Cracking drive.

Southwestdave

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161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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krisdelta said:
So you've already sold? That's good news in the current climate smile

Elise's are fun - except for the falling in / crawling out business! Cracking drive.
Yes, had no problem selling it via Pistonheads, although priced it to sell really, I think you can kid yourself that you are going to get more. There are a lot of cars out there being advertised at prices they are not going to get, many way too close to main dealer prices.

The Elise is on the possible next car list (although take the point about getting in and out). I was also looking at a BMW Z4M. None are a match for the Aston in many ways, but want something fun, but cheaper to run. It will replace the Aston and our MX5 (have been running three cars, which is just daft).

shunt

971 posts

226 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
I was also looking at a BMW Z4M. None are a match for the Aston in many ways, but want something fun, but cheaper to run.
Dave,

I came from a Z4MCoupe to the V8V, great fun car with plenty of power. Unless you're opting out of a main dealer network it won't be much cheaper to run - although they should have lost all the money they can by now. Bargain to buy not so to run. At 4+ years old now I'd explore the indi servicing route.

krisdelta

4,566 posts

202 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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shunt said:
Dave,

I came from a Z4MCoupe to the V8V, great fun car with plenty of power. Unless you're opting out of a main dealer network it won't be much cheaper to run - although they should have lost all the money they can by now. Bargain to buy not so to run. At 4+ years old now I'd explore the indi servicing route.
Z4M - nice car - the engine is a peach, I found my (E46) M3 very good value to run, if you buy just after a major service smile

Well done on a quick sale Dave smile

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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V8 Animal said:
Expensive toy eek
I mean 'toy' as in something a child plays with wink

Running joke betwen DB9 and V8 owners smile Apparently our cars are for old fogeys, their cars are for children.

Southwestdave

Original Poster:

161 posts

161 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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shunt said:
Dave,

I came from a Z4MCoupe to the V8V, great fun car with plenty of power. Unless you're opting out of a main dealer network it won't be much cheaper to run - although they should have lost all the money they can by now. Bargain to buy not so to run. At 4+ years old now I'd explore the indi servicing route.
That is something I do need to watch out for, no point selling the Aston (which I love) to then be hit with bills that are similar, although as you say the depreciation must have slowed right down on the Z4M.

V8 Animal

5,928 posts

211 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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yeti said:
I mean 'toy' as in something a child plays with wink

Running joke betwen DB9 and V8 owners smile Apparently our cars are for old fogeys, their cars are for children.
Thanks for filling me in on that joke.

Im 49 so i will grow into the DB9 smile

MrOrange

2,035 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Depreciation does have the benefit of being tax-deductible. Which is nice.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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MrOrange said:
Depreciation does have the benefit of being tax-deductible. Which is nice.
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hartley

704 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Southwestdave said:
That is something I do need to watch out for, no point selling the Aston (which I love) to then be hit with bills that are similar, although as you say the depreciation must have slowed right down on the Z4M.
Go for a boxster - best driving car bar non and cheap as chipsat present

V8 Animal

5,928 posts

211 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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I sold my Z4MC to buy a AM

Z4 with the options new in 2007 £48k i sold it for £17k with 19k on the clock.

AM with the options new in 2007 £105k 1 bought mine for £50k with 13k on the clock.

I will leave it with you what has depreciated more smile