V12 Vantage Register

[Mako V12V]

Jon39 said:

Did every Vantage Special Edition model, use an S chassis number prefix (e.g. N430 and GT12)?

I can confirm the GT12 chassis end S62xxx. I have 12 vins between 2229 and 2491 suggesting they’ve used the same last four digit series for all the V12 Vantages, original, S, roadsters, zagatos, etc

[Mako V12V]

vpr said:

Mine is 1114. I thought I’d given you my details but can’t see it anywhere in this thread?

Edited by vpr on Saturday 25th August 10:43

Hi Leo, I think you contacted me via email as I have your details on the Register. Since then I’ve expanded the Register to include steering wheel type so if you could confirm if it’s lesther or alcantara please?
I also keep a photo library but don’t have any pics of 1114. Could you please send me some or post up?
Btw yours is the 346th from 388 UK cars and the 1098th out of 1200 built!

[Jon39]

Mako V12V said:

Jon39 said:

Did every Vantage Special Edition model, use an S chassis number prefix (e.g. N430 and GT12)?

I can confirm the GT12 chassis end S62xxx. I have 12 vins between 2229 and 2491 suggesting they’ve used the same last four digit series for all the V12 Vantages, original, S, roadsters, zagatos, etc

You are Mr V12V, Phil, so I would like you to make the choice.

Should the V12V to be regarded as a Special Edition and therefore included with all the others, on my Vantage Limited Edition and Special Edition table?

[vpr]

Mako V12V said:

vpr said:

Mine is 1114. I thought I’d given you my details but can’t see it anywhere in this thread?

Edited by vpr on Saturday 25th August 10:43

Hi Leo, I think you contacted me via email as I have your details on the Register. Since then I’ve expanded the Register to include steering wheel type so if you could confirm if it’s lesther or alcantara please?
I also keep a photo library but don’t have any pics of 1114. Could you please send me some or post up?
Btw yours is the 346th from 388 UK cars and the 1098th out of 1200 built!

Thanks, very helpful indeed. I have a nice late car then.

Is the register of cars available to view?

My car has an Alcantara wheel.

Pics here as was std and as now with I believe later wheels.

[Mako V12V]

Cheers Leo, much appreciated. The first pic looks great standard, but then with the black alloys just makes the car look a damn mean n nasty beast!!

[Mako V12V]

Jon39 said:

You are Mr V12V, Phil, so I would like you to make the choice.

Should the V12V to be regarded as a Special Edition and therefore included with all the others, on my Vantage Limited Edition and Special Edition table?

Haha, thanks Jon!
And that’s not an easy decision to be made, especially as it’s always nice to have a limited edition car. However, upon reflection, the decision is easy, and here’s why (in my opinion of course)......
The standard V12V manual 6sp cars were marketed to be limited to 1,000 cars with no US cars planned at that time. During production it was decided to supply to the US (the first official US car is S00483 btw). There were 200 US/Canadian cars built, so 1,200 in total.
But these 1,200 cars in themselves aren’t a Special Edition. This falls to the cars that were marketed within the V12V range of 1,200 cars as “Special”. So the Carbon Black Edition cars and the later US* run of 40 cars are Special Edition, but within a limited run of cars.
The latter S cars with 6sp autos were not marketed as limited and in reality do not number many more cars than the 6sp manuals!
So, to recap, it all depends Jon how you are to name your table of cars. I think you need to define/split out what’s a limited run of cars and what are Special Editions.
Certainly within the whole SX0001 to SX3xxx (X denotes a changing digit), I’d define as follows:-
LIMITED
6sp manual coupe (no number plaque)
6sp manual roadster
Zagato
GT8
GT12

SPECIAL EDITION
Carbon Black Edition (no number plaque)
*US 40 Edition (only 30 went to US, the other 10 to Japan/Australia)
Centenary Edition (3 cars)
Red Bull Racing?
AMR
V600
Any other run out model Editions....

Not to be included
V12VS coupe/roadster
7sp manual

There you go....easy!

[Jon39]

Thank you for your comprehensive explanation.

Each model within my table is named either as Limited Edition or Special Edition.

The individual LEs and SEs that you have mentioned are already included, but what I now realise has been ommitted, is the standard V12V manual (Coupe).

I will add V12 Vantage Coupe (manual) as a Limited Edition (1,200) but with a Notes comment, 'Marketed to be limited to 1,000 with no North American cars planned at that time, but during production it was decided to supply 200 to the US and Canada'.

I already have the V12 Vantage Roadster, Limited Edition (101).

You mentioned Special Editions as being within the 1,200. This might need a comment within the Notes, otherwise the numbers will be out.

Is it only the two Carbon Editions that are within the total of 1,200?
What about the Zagato 63 built, and the Centenary 3 built?
It presumably cannot include for example, GT12, AMR, or V600, because they were produced much later.

For the Carbons, at present I am showing;

2012 - V12 Vantage Carbon Black Edition - Special Edition - 82 built.
2012 - V12 Vantage Carbon Black Edition - Limited Edition - Sill Plaque Example 019 of 40 - 40 built - Notes: 'Most to USA. 9 RHD. 31 LHD.'

Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 26th August 08:53

[CSK1]

Mako V12V said:

The latter S cars with 6sp autos were not marketed as limited and in reality do not number many more cars than the 6sp manuals!

The V12 Vantage S was launched with a 7 speed automated manual gearbox not a 6 speed auto Phil! Just saying.
Great work you're doing, BTW.
I'd be interested to have the final V12VS production numbers, be they SportshiftIII or stickshift manual, coupé or roadster.
Keep up the good work!
Edited to say Kroymans Aston Martin where I bought mine mentioned 1,196 manual V12 Vantage produced.
Do you think the correct number is 1,200?

Edited by CSK1 on Sunday 26th August 08:45

[cayman-black]

vpr said:

Thanks, very helpful indeed. I have a nice late car then.

Is the register of cars available to view?

My car has an Alcantara wheel.

Pics here as was std and as now with I believe later wheels.

Looks great and so do the Michelins.

[starlight225]

CSK1 said:

The V12 Vantage S was launched with a 7 speed automated manual gearbox not a 6 speed auto Phil! Just saying.
Great work you're doing, BTW.
I'd be interested to have the final V12VS production numbers, be they SportshiftIII or stickshift manual, coupé or roadster.
Keep up the good work!
Edited to say Kroymans Aston Martin where I bought mine mentioned 1,196 manual V12 Vantage produced.
Do you think the correct number is 1,200?

Edited by CSK1 on Sunday 26th August 08:45

The total number of V12 Vantage S coupe and roadsters (not including AMRs) is 1651

[Mako V12V]

starlight225 said:

CSK1 said:

The V12 Vantage S was launched with a 7 speed automated manual gearbox not a 6 speed auto Phil! Just saying.
Great work you're doing, BTW.
I'd be interested to have the final V12VS production numbers, be they SportshiftIII or stickshift manual, coupé or roadster.
Keep up the good work!
Edited to say Kroymans Aston Martin where I bought mine mentioned 1,196 manual V12 Vantage produced.
Do you think the correct number is 1,200?

Edited by CSK1 on Sunday 26th August 08:45

The total number of V12 Vantage S coupe and roadsters (not including AMRs) is 1651

Thanks Olivier, yes of course the S is 7sp, was just a typo at 02.30 in the morning
I made a decision quite early on for the Register to be only the 1000, then ended up 1200, 6sp manuals as they were limited in numbers and when the S came out there was no limit to numbers.
Now that I know there’s 1651 (cheers Starlight, always wondered that), I’m glad I never started!
I’ve been compiling the Register for nearly 8 years now and I’ve found 841 of the 1200, so have just completed 70%!!
Regarding the 1196v1200 debate, I can categorically say that it’s 1200 as the numbers have been fully reconciled up to the last 6sp Manual vin 1376 and confirmed by a contact at the factory. This reconciliation only happened this year and was a thorn in my side until then as I had certain vins I didn’t know if they were coupes, roadsters or Zagato.
The only mystery is with S00007 as no one will confirm or deny its existence!! I was told by some that this vin was missed out leaving 1199 cars, but my theory is that a confidentiality clause has been put in place on this one and it belongs to James Bond himself.

[starlight225]

There is no V12 Vantage with chassis number S00007. It may be on another limited run model...

[vpr]

cayman-black said:

vpr said:

Thanks, very helpful indeed. I have a nice late car then.

Is the register of cars available to view?

My car has an Alcantara wheel.

Pics here as was std and as now with I believe later wheels.

Looks great and so do the Michelins.

Thanks

Never end a fan of the original wheels though I’m keeping them.

The Michelins have absolutely transformed the drive

[Mako V12V]

starlight225 said:

There is no V12 Vantage with chassis number S00007. It may be on another limited run model...

Yes but vins are 17 digits so technically you can have the last 6 digits the same. The official line is there is no 007 but as I say, it’s a secret!

[CSK1]

starlight225 said:

CSK1 said:

The V12 Vantage S was launched with a 7 speed automated manual gearbox not a 6 speed auto Phil! Just saying.
Great work you're doing, BTW.
I'd be interested to have the final V12VS production numbers, be they SportshiftIII or stickshift manual, coupé or roadster.
Keep up the good work!
Edited to say Kroymans Aston Martin where I bought mine mentioned 1,196 manual V12 Vantage produced.
Do you think the correct number is 1,200?

Edited by CSK1 on Sunday 26th August 08:45

The total number of V12 Vantage S coupe and roadsters (not including AMRs) is 1651

Thanks Phil for the info.
You must be well informed.
Do you have the Coupé/Roadster split?

[CSK1]

Mako V12V said:

Thanks Olivier, yes of course the S is 7sp, was just a typo at 02.30 in the morning
I made a decision quite early on for the Register to be only the 1000, then ended up 1200, 6sp manuals as they were limited in numbers and when the S came out there was no limit to numbers.
Now that I know there’s 1651 (cheers Starlight, always wondered that), I’m glad I never started!
I’ve been compiling the Register for nearly 8 years now and I’ve found 841 of the 1200, so have just completed 70%!!
Regarding the 1196v1200 debate, I can categorically say that it’s 1200 as the numbers have been fully reconciled up to the last 6sp Manual vin 1376 and confirmed by a contact at the factory. This reconciliation only happened this year and was a thorn in my side until then as I had certain vins I didn’t know if they were coupes, roadsters or Zagato.
The only mystery is with S00007 as no one will confirm or deny its existence!! I was told by some that this vin was missed out leaving 1199 cars, but my theory is that a confidentiality clause has been put in place on this one and it belongs to James Bond himself.

Thanks my Mako Blue friend, great info!

[Mako V12V]

Jon39 said:

Thank you for your comprehensive explanation.

You mentioned Special Editions as being within the 1,200. This might need a comment within the Notes, otherwise the numbers will be out.

Is it only the two Carbon Editions that are within the total of 1,200?
What about the Zagato 63 built, and the Centenary 3 built?
It presumably cannot include for example, GT12, AMR, or V600, because they were produced much later.

For the Carbons, at present I am showing;

2012 - V12 Vantage Carbon Black Edition - Special Edition - 82 built.
2012 - V12 Vantage Carbon Black Edition - Limited Edition - Sill Plaque Example 019 of 40 - 40 built - Notes: 'Most to USA. 9 RHD. 31 LHD.'

Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 26th August 08:53

Hi Jon, so to blow your mind further and answer the above.......
1. The 1,200 V12V coupes are excluding Zagato as these are a different model.
2. The 100 Centenary cars in 2013 were built across the whole AM range. 3 of these were V12V 6sp manuals vins 1370, 1371 and 1372, with Centenary plaques stating 98 of 100 to 100 of 100 respectively.
3. And yes the GT12, AMR etc are different cars to the original V12V and outside the 1,200.
4. The split of the 40 limited edition CBEs is US 27, Canada 2, Chile 1, Japan 4, Australia 6.
Not all 40 CBEs above are black! For eg, there’s Hammerhead silver, MF white, Red Lion and Flugplatz Blue in there too!
5. The 82 CBE cars you mention is correct. These are Carbon Black II (two) Edition cars vins ranging from 866 to 1342 with plaques stating Carbon Black Edition.
6. There are Carbon Black I (one) cars also. The first CB car was S00404. There are 192 AML Carbon Black cars between S00404 and S00865. I’m unsure if these have similar plaques.
7. There are also a handful of Carbon Edition cars (S00646 in Mako Blue for eg), and the plaque on the sill just states simply “Carbon”.

I’ll leave you to digest that lot

[Jon39]

Mako V12V said:

Hi Jon, so to blow your mind further and answer the above.......
1. The 1,200 V12V coupes are excluding Zagato as these are a different model.
2. The 100 Centenary cars in 2013 were built across the whole AM range. 3 of these were V12V 6sp manuals vins 1370, 1371 and 1372, with Centenary plaques stating 98 of 100 to 100 of 100 respectively.
3. And yes the GT12, AMR etc are different cars to the original V12V and outside the 1,200.
4. The split of the 40 limited edition CBEs is US 27, Canada 2, Chile 1, Japan 4, Australia 6.
Not all 40 CBEs above are black! For eg, there’s Hammerhead silver, MF white, Red Lion and Flugplatz Blue in there too!
5. The 82 CBE cars you mention is correct. These are Carbon Black II (two) Edition cars vins ranging from 866 to 1342 with plaques stating Carbon Black Edition.
6. There are Carbon Black I (one) cars also. The first CB car was S00404. There are 192 AML Carbon Black cars between S00404 and S00865. I’m unsure if these have similar plaques.
7. There are also a handful of Carbon Edition cars (S00646 in Mako Blue for eg), and the plaque on the sill just states simply “Carbon”.

I’ll leave you to digest that lot

Thank you again Phil.

Finally (I think), is therefore my understanding correct, that the total (1,200) number of V12V cars does include;

Dec. 2009 - Carbon Black (first) - Special Edition 192 cars,
2012 - Carbon Black (second) - Special Edition 82 cars,
2012 - Carbon Black - Limited Edition 40 cars (with numbered sill plaques) (Most to USA. 9 RHD. 31 LHD)
and
2013 - Centenary - Limited Edition 3 cars (with numbered sill plaques),

and therefore
all of the other V12V Limited and Special Edition models, are NOT included in the 1,200 total?

The V12V Coupe (manual) is a Limited Edition. Is my understanding correct, that they do NOT have numbered sill plaques?

[RS6bird]

starlight225 said:

There is no V12 Vantage with chassis number S00007. It may be on another limited run model...

I have S00077...pretty close :-D

[Mako V12V]

RS6bird said:

I have S00077...pretty close :-D

Haha, closer than my S00307, although I’m only one digit out too!