Which model would you put your 80k on?

[Lunablack]

AMDBSNick said:

From my other thread

FWIW Chris was completely overwhelmed by the quality of the engineering.

Was Chris an engineer??

[AMDBSNick]

Lunablack said:

Was Chris an engineer??

Being honest no I don't think he was. I think he was just comparing it to how some other exotica are thrown together

[V8LM]

DB9 Ian P said:

Interesting question comparing buying a Vanquish with a DBS or a V12V (if you could get them for that money). I think a more interesting question would be comparing the running costs combined with depreciation loss. Don't know the answer but it could well be that the running costs on the Vanquish outweighs potential depreciation on the newer models. Either way buying an Aston will never prove a sensible investment in financial terms - we do it for the love of the cars.

This. What depreciation giveth with one hand, running costs taketh away.

[F1 NDW]

DB9 Ian P said:

Either way buying an Aston will never prove a sensible investment in financial terms - we do it for the love of the cars.

topic!

And thats the truth of it!

[Mako V12V]

DavidV12V said:

X7LDA said:

They came out at Geneva and said they are already at c1300 and building more. Majority of the extra demand has gone to the US with only a little of the 'extra' going to the UK market.

Last time I checked it was up to 968 on the dealer computer a couple of weeks ago (with most of the recent cars going to the US) - but who knows?

David, that sounds spot on as I heard the builds were into the 970's.

[MichaelV8V]

Neil1300R said:

Last of the hand built Astons. Before the move to a robotised production line at Gaydon.
Nothing wrong with either, just some people see 'real' Astons as being hand built by blokes in sheds. Having said that the
Vanquish is a very different production technique to the real hand built cars. Sort of a step between the old and the new.
Later cars, especially the S are more sorted. Will Probably depreciate less than the any of the Gaydon cars but will cost more to service and maintain.

Still not getting the appeal. If the S is better built, and newer, then its much closer to the current models, so doesn't that make the older, unreliable ones more 'real'. Still struggling to understand why anyone would get a Vanq rather than something like a manual DBS

[Armen]

Vanquish S !

The last hand-built Aston at Newport-Pagnell... only 1000 were built between 2005 and July 2007.

The Vanquish S is more reliable than the Vanquish. It is a truly wonderful car, just the looks, the atmosphere, the charisma... and the sound ! Much more impressive than on DB9/DBS/Virage...

And still the fastest Aston Martin ever, except the One-77. With a top speed of 200 MPH, I can assure you that the performance is really impressive.

For sure, value will increase. I would really suggest you a Vanquish S. It does have appeal that others Aston don't have, to my opinion.

Except the fact that the battery needs to be maintaing by the loader, there is nothing wrong about reliability. Only the clutch sensor of the gearbox might be replaced.

To keep the clutch in good health, don't forget to put it into Neutral. By the way, the gearbox is pretty fast. A bit jerky, but that's part of the essence of the car, nice feeling through the gears changing.

Being in the Vanquish S, in a tunnel, brings you smile to your face instantly. I can not say more, just try, you'll be addicted for ever... that car is unbelievably STUNNING. Period...

Cheers from Paris.

[George H]

Armen said:

And still the fastest Aston Martin ever, except the One-77. With a top speed of 200 MPH, I can assure you that the performance is really impressive.

Technically 3rd fastest - V8 V600 does 202mph (according to official stats, don't know how true it really is)

[Armen]

George H said:

Technically 3rd fastest - V8 V600 does 202mph (according to official stats, don't know how true it really is)

I'm pretty septic on that, especially because of aerodynamic of the V600...

On the AMOC.org, one Vanquish S owner went 200,6 MPH (real GPS speed, not on the speedometer)... and there was still a bit more power to keep on.

That really shows how impressive the performance of the Vanquish S is.

[Armen]

322,8 km/h... 200,6 MPH

[Lunablack]

Yep 200 mph.... It's top of my list when looking for a new car

[Armen]

Lunablack said:

Yep 200 mph.... It's top of my list when looking for a new car

I admit it is a bit silly to talk about that... but part of the car.

[JaseB]

If it was my money I'd probably chicken away from the flappy paddle option, just because it's the one thing folks seem to have the issues with, this one maybe:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3462250.htm

Having said that I've never driven one with either box so it's pure lottery list for me!

[yeti]

What a car that's be, effectively the Achilles heel removed from it...

Still 6 monthly services, still hard to keep in tip-top condition on the road, but that or a DBS manual is a tough one.

I'd still want a Volante though and can now confirm that Volantes drive as well as coupes with a few easy changes

[Armen]

There is no problem/issue at all with the flappy paddle gearbox on the Vanquish S... as I previsouly said, only the clutch sensor might be defective.
But no problem of reliability at all, everything works perfectly.

Sure, a manual Vanquish S would be great ! But I really enjoy paddle, response is pretty quick.

[yeti]

Armen said:

There is no problem/issue at all with the flappy paddle gearbox on the Vanquish S... as I previsouly said, only the clutch sensor might be defective.
But no problem of reliability at all, everything works perfectly.

I think what you mean is there is no problem with >your< flappy paddle gearbox.

Numerous others report differently sadly...

I'd love to try one, scared I'll fall in love though

[F1 NDW]

yeti said:

I think what you mean is there is no problem with >your< flappy paddle gearbox.

Numerous others report differently sadly...

I'd love to try one, scared I'll fall in love though

Nothing wrong with the one I've got either. Everything works perfectly. There is the occasional operator error but that's another story.

[V8LM]

The Vanquish S was only 'technically' the fastest AM produced as the V600 wasn't a production car, only a MaxPower boys upgrade. But equally 'technically' the Vanquish wasn't hand built in the sense the proper last of the proper Astons was - the panels were hydroformed initially and only finished off by hand, and the engine is not 'technically' the work of one man.

[LukeyLikey]

franki68 said:

DB9VolanteDriver said:

To me, it is quite obvious that 80K on a DBS will lose less money than 80K on a V12V than 80K on a DB9 than 80K on a V8V. The DBS will by definition be the oldest of all the others at 80K, hence farther down the depreciation curve.

Not quite sure if it works like that ,especially with a dbs replacement looming.

I think it might do. Ferrari launched the 458 at a higher price and 430's have been stable (in fact, currently look great value). The F12 at £250-£300k will likely do the same for the 599. When AM replace the DBS it is likely to be more powerful, more aggressive and a lot more expensive.

With rising inflation and increased pressure on world resources, plus fewer people prepared to drop £250k on a supercar, manufacturers cannot develop, engineer and produce new premium supercars for anything like the current models - the numbers just don't stack up like they used to.

Early DBS, in manual, at around £80-90k is very good value indeed. Over the very long term, body shell and not just engine variant has much to do with values. (Vanquish v DB7 V12?). Therefore, I think DBS will be a better bet than V12V.

Perhaps I'm a little biased but I put my own money into a DBS over a V12V.

Mine has been reliable and a great car to own (though I will probably extend the warranty when it is up - do Aston offer that, does anyone know?)

Beauty and appearance drive long term values too. I know my view is not universally held but the V12V or the Vanquish is not as 'perfectly' proportioned and beautiful as the DBS IMO. A replacement DBS may make mine look older but it will never look less beautiful.

[yeti]

F1 NDW said:

Nothing wrong with the one I've got either. Everything works perfectly. There is the occasional operator error but that's another story.

Good news then that the so-called and oft-reported problematic gearbox isn't. Curious all the people who reported problems did so wrongly. Takes all sorts I suppose.