A place few have ever been ...

A place few have ever been ...

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Vantagefan

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643 posts

170 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Sadly not some ideal holiday location but the Cygnet section of the Aston Martin classifieds.

What has amazed me is how many are POA. Judging by the fact that some are demo miles and already at £24k + I'm guessing that an offer is on the cards.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=1139

The worrying thing is that it's almost becoming appealing at these prices! Or am I alone in that thought...

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Every Virage on the preowned site is also POA, and always has been.

Is this a new strategy ?? smile

George H

14,707 posts

164 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Jockman said:
Every Virage on the preowned site is also POA, and always has been.
And on PH classifieds - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?p=1&...

Virage only section at last woohoo Saves having to search through every other model trying to find them!

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Jockman said:
Every Virage on the preowned site is also POA, and always has been.

Is this a new strategy ?? smile
I think so no one is willing to pay what they really want for them laugh
That way you will at least contact them and they can try to haggle!

clorenzen

3,675 posts

235 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Whilst i like the Virage i don't get the position of it within the AML lineup - which probably is also the reason why they are difficult price. It is too expensive on the outset and obviously not shifting as anticipated so you end up with a lot of them on the dealer forecourt - a bit what happened to the Rapide. The few price indications for ex demo cars is very close to a low mileage DBS Volante so obviously too expensive. The DB9 Volante has gone up massively in price which in order to keep the distance to the Virage means that this has to be even higher. A Virage Volante is more 100k than 150k in my book and maybe that is just about where you can make a deal.

George H

14,707 posts

164 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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clorenzen said:
A Virage Volante is more 100k than 150k in my book and maybe that is just about where you can make a deal.
The CCM brakes alone are about £10k aren't they? I reckon at £120k it's fairly priced imo (although I would like them to be substantially lower!).

Vantagefan

Original Poster:

643 posts

170 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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George H said:
The CCM brakes alone are about £10k aren't they? I reckon at £120k it's fairly priced imo (although I would like them to be substantially lower!).
That's almost the problem with the Virage. At launch it was set aside from the DB9 with CCM brakes, Garmin sat nav and welt leather features rolleyes but now that all models can come with Garmin it's only the CCM brakes that set it aside from the DB9 and a £10k retrofit to the DB9 would still make it cheaper than a Virage! You could probably remap a DB9 to make up the additional 20 bhp for under the price of a Virage too. Maybe you could change the headlights in the difference...

George H

14,707 posts

164 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Vantagefan said:
That's almost the problem with the Virage. At launch it was set aside from the DB9 with CCM brakes, Garmin sat nav and welt leather features rolleyes but now that all models can come with Garmin it's only the CCM brakes that set it aside from the DB9 and a £10k retrofit to the DB9 would still make it cheaper than a Virage! You could probably remap a DB9 to make up the additional 20 bhp for under the price of a Virage too. Maybe you could change the headlights in the difference...
Can't retrofit CCM brakes, or Works Service said they never will. Not sure where the extra 20bhp comes from in the Virage. Perhaps it's like the Vantage vs N400 with a different airbox?

F1 NDW

1,116 posts

146 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Vantagefan said:
Sadly not some ideal holiday location but the Cygnet section of the Aston Martin classifieds.

What has amazed me is how many are POA. Judging by the fact that some are demo miles and already at £24k + I'm guessing that an offer is on the cards.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=1139

The worrying thing is that it's almost becoming appealing at these prices! Or am I alone in that thought...
YOU ARE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!

Vantagefan

Original Poster:

643 posts

170 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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That's a shame, a Rapide would be great with them. I wonder whether it's just a worry of tinkering with braking systems rather than an incompatibility.

DB9Mark

1,557 posts

171 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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£30k!!! you could buy a CAR for that!

MichaelV8V

650 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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They are ugly little buggers aren't they. They look like someone punched them

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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I hear that they sold 89 Cygnets last year, as well as approx 360 V8Vs - surely these must just be UK figures ?? smile

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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Saw me first one in the wild yesterday, the 2 blokes looked a bit sheepish

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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Swanning about, were they?

MichaelV8V

650 posts

261 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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Jockman said:
I hear that they sold 89 Cygnets last year, as well as approx 360 V8Vs - surely these must just be UK figures ?? smile
Didn't they give away one for every buyer of a One77? That accounts for 77 of the 89. Sounds about right, it all just looks like an expensive and potentially damaging blunder

yeti

10,523 posts

275 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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George H said:
Can't retrofit CCM brakes, or Works Service said they never will. Not sure where the extra 20bhp comes from in the Virage. Perhaps it's like the Vantage vs N400 with a different airbox?
It's work done to the heads again, so a proper increase. However, sports cats on a DB9 would give you more, but obviously Aston can't go that route smile

The Virage doesn't 'sit above' the DB9, it replaces it. Then we get a new DBS in a few months, et voila, our new line up.

I'm sure you can do a CCMs retro-fit, but I asked WS and they refused, same as you! Not worth the money IMHO unless they come with the car, uprated steel ones are just as good for anything that isn't racing 24hrs at Le Mans. The unsprung weight saving is very useful, but even bigger steel brakes can save a little weight over OEM as are aluminium belled rather than the boggo DB9 all-steel set-up.

I don't lust after the Virage, happy in my manual DB9 thanks smile

Yes, the Cygnets were all giveaways. A genuinely, properly stupid idea, the brainchild of one man, that cost Aston £16MM of money that could have been spent on engine work. Disastrous.

brakedwell

1,229 posts

199 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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mikey k said:
Saw me first one in the wild yesterday, the 2 blokes looked a bit sheepish
Were they holding hands?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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A lot of people will be taking a well deserved bath on these smile

yeti

10,523 posts

275 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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brakedwell said:
mikey k said:
Saw me first one in the wild yesterday, the 2 blokes looked a bit sheepish
Were they holding hands?
>snigger<

Saw one whilst out driving, we were speechless... A little bit absurd although I do 'sort of' see the rationale frown

I wouldn't want to drive round London every day in my DB9, it's too big and with the roof up, vision is poor. But a little town car... a Fiat 500 Abarth, hot Mini or VW's small GTi-de-jour makes so much more sense. Aston should have made the Cygnet better, not just prettier. Power, noise, handling, something to differentiate it!