New Vredestein Vorti - Anyone Using It?

New Vredestein Vorti - Anyone Using It?

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Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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mikey k said:
The side wall of the tyre is a major part of the suspension.
This is the reason we have the AM9 designation on the RE050's
The Honda S2000 also uses a specific RE050, those guys have a whole range of alternatives from budgets to track/road tyres.
I reckon I will "look around" when I need rears.
Does the Vantage have AM9 denotation ??

Furthermore, why are the rear wheels on a V8VS wider than those on a V12 DB9 confused

v8woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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The Vantage does have AM9 on the tyres.

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Jockman said:
Why are the rear wheels on a V8VS wider than those on a V12 DB9 confused
Because AM know S owners drive them like they stole it wink

GTDB7

958 posts

169 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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I've been running Vred's on my GT for a while now.

I have a running report over on the AMOC - Bloxham forum.

Whenever I source aftermarket tyres for my GT (which is driven quite hard, probably harder than most other Aston's out there) I always go into great detail with the tyres specs.

For my car the sidewall as standard are rated at 93, my Vred's are rated 97.

I always go for a stiffer sidewall, so I get more control and feedback. Ok the ride will be a little harder etc but so what!

To date the Vred's I am using are by far the best tyres I've used on the GT, and I've had the S02, ZZ3 and now the Ultrac Sessanta's.

Excellent in the wet and also the SNOW !!!

Although the Sessanta have a very different tread pattern and are of a different design being parametric etc.. they look a little different with the opposing pattern direction, but work exceptionally well.

There are many specs for tyres you can check, and the future is going to see even more as noise ratings and rolling resistance ratings will start appearing on them in the very near future.


v8woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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I see the Vredestein Youtube video shows a few scenes with an Aston Martin on the Vortis. The website doesn't show a 275/35 19 for the Vantage, only a 20" version frown

Edited by v8woollie on Monday 28th May 16:18

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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GTDB7 said:
For my car the sidewall as standard are rated at 93, my Vred's are rated 97.
How are you getting that info?
It would be useful to know where to look for future tyre choices!

DB9VolanteDriver

Original Poster:

2,612 posts

177 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I finally was able to take the tires (and the car) for a spin. They seem to be on par, noise and ride wise, with the P-Zero (which is better than the Bridgestone) Handling didn't seem any different, but who's to say if they can reach the same limit or have the same characteristics as the P-Zero? Unless you test them side by side in a controlled environment, it is all rather subjective.

I did have a little vibration at around 70-80 mph with the P-Zeros; these seem better. But that could simply mean a better job at balancing.

One thing that isn't subjective, however, is the cost. Mounted and balanced, these were $1050 out the door, which is half the cost of the P-Zeros and about 70% of the Pilot Super Sport.

Bottom line? No regrets.

GTDB7

958 posts

169 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Mikey,

It's right there on the side of every tyre.

93Y for the normal S02's which means the weight rating (sidewall) is 93 and speed rating is Y

on my Vreds they are 97Y. 97 = 80kg more load rating over 93. (650kg Vs 730kg per tyre)

If you go lower than 93, you'd get a softer ride but a little more tyre roll on corners.

But then I would suspect for Insurance and possibly MOT, using lower spec tyres would not be the way to go.

You'll also not other things on the sidewalls.. such as treadwear, grip and sometimes rolling resistance and noise ratings.

Treadwear will be a number, 3 figures. with 100 being the reference point. so a 240 wears down 2.4 times more slowly.

Grip will be one or two letters, A being good, AA being better.



Hope this helps... just Google for tyre markings and you should find more info.

Edited by GTDB7 on Monday 4th June 02:41

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Thanks for that I knew about the wear number but not the grip and side wall numbers!

Murph7355

37,769 posts

257 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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Ask drivers of Ferrari Challenge Stradales how important it is to get the correct designation Pirelli PZeros...

GTDB7

958 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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My Vred's are still on the rear and doing VERY WELL...

I have just this last week changed from SO2's on the front to Goodyear Eagle F1's

I opted for the older F1 design where the tread patterns are very similar to the SO2's.

Newer style F1's have a different tread design.

So far they are an improvement, though I haven't had chance to push them hard yet.



mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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How many miles have you got on the Verdis now?
You will like the F1s I had 3 sets on my supercharged s2000 great tyre
The new ones are good but have a more asymmetric pattern ( hence the name wink )

AWV12

600 posts

148 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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In addition: I put 4 new Vorti's on my S5 and I am very satisfied (much better than the Dunlops on it before), and I am almost for sure will put these on the DBS also when the Contis need replacement.

Here some more detail: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vredestein/Ultra... (review from September is mine).

BTW: a set of 4 275/20 costed me Euro 1250