Discussion
robgt said:
...So far my best quote for two tyres is £575.40 inc VAT fitted.
Here’s a tyre pricing thread that leads to another, but its a few months old.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
BingoBob said:
I am a huge fan of the Michelin PSS. I am disappointed with the grip of the OE Bridgestones and can't wait to wear them out (that's 3mm, by the way 
) so I can put some on the Aston.
Try the PSS and if you don't like them I'll have them off you.
Without wishing to sound antagonistic...what circumstances do you find the Bridgestones aren't up to snuff? ) so I can put some on the Aston. Try the PSS and if you don't like them I'll have them off you.
I think I drive mine pretty hard and find it virtually impossible to un-stick the car with traction control on, and have to go about it deliberately even with TC off (not something I generally do).
I'm not saying that other tyres might not offer more grip. But unless you're routinely having the rear end swing round on you (etc) then I wonder what a change in tyre will do.
The car does have a habit of skipping around a bit on uneven roads, but that's not the tyre causing the issue, more the damping and weight of the car.
It'd be interesting to know what other cars people have experience of as I suspect that influences the more subjective side of things. Bambi on ice has more grip than my Griff at times (and a change in tyre may well be something I consider on that as a result), so maybe my arse is just tuned in a bit differently
Went for a run out with my mate in his Griff yesterday....
And where he was feathering the throttle off roundabouts, I was just flooring it
The b
d had me up to 1.3 mph though..... Then the Aston got into 6th and pulled away...
The cars are pretty evenly matched, until it comes to going around corners and braking
And where he was feathering the throttle off roundabouts, I was just flooring it
The b
d had me up to 1.3 mph though..... Then the Aston got into 6th and pulled away...The cars are pretty evenly matched, until it comes to going around corners and braking
Lunablack said:
Went for a run out with my mate in his Griff yesterday....
And where he was feathering the throttle off roundabouts, I was just flooring it
The bd had me up to 1.3 mph though..... Then the Aston got into 6th and pulled away...
The cars are pretty evenly matched, until it comes to going around corners and braking
That was with all electronic nannies off in the Aston? ;-)And where he was feathering the throttle off roundabouts, I was just flooring it
The b
d had me up to 1.3 mph though..... Then the Aston got into 6th and pulled away...The cars are pretty evenly matched, until it comes to going around corners and braking
Vee12V said:
That was with all electronic nannies off in the Aston? ;-)
It wouldn't matter either way When they were new, TVRs were oft talked about as bargains compared to "pedigree" cars (Porsches, Ferraris etc). But to be honest, now I've owned one they are nowhere near these marques in terms of polish, finesse and ultimately outright ability (if one excludes straight line performance).
Does that make them bad cars? Not at all.
When you're in the mood, you can make very quick progress in a Griff, and keep up with many cars that are technically "better". You'll almost certainly have a quicker heart rate and be a bit sweatier afterwards, but personally that's sometimes what you want/need
And to keep it on topic, I reckon an Aston with 1.6mm of tread will feel far more planted than many a Griff with new (but scrubbed) tyres
I know I stand to be accused of taking things too easy but nobody I know thinks that I am a slow driver, indeed quite the opposite. A good mix of spirited cotswold driving and motorway (50/50) probably helps rather than just fun weekend driving as some of you will obviously do. However I have now reached 14,500 miles on my V12V, owned from new, on the first set of tyres and neither the front, nor rear are ready to be replaced. I am still waiting to invest in a set of the new intermediates to offer better all year round performance (anyone bought any yet ?). My wifes illness has meant that I have put fewer miles on during the past 18 months (9500 completed in the first year)but now that she has recovered I expect to get more use again and my first change of rubber.
Murph7355 said:
what circumstances do you find the Bridgestones aren't up to snuff?
I find that the back end comes out surprisingly easily. I never turn TC off so it pulls it back in pretty quick, but I expected more. I've never been a fan of the Bridgestones on other cars, so maybe that doesn't help my objectivity. I will definitely try some PSS on there when I get a chance and report on the differences, if any. And I'll give you first refusal on my 3mm tread Bridgies
Edited by BingoBob on Sunday 10th June 18:33
Edited by BingoBob on Sunday 10th June 18:34
BingoBob said:
I find that the back end comes out surprisingly easily. I never turn TC off so it pulls it back in pretty quick, but I expected more. I've never been a fan of the Bridgestones on other cars, so maybe that doesn't help my objectivity. I will definitely try some PSS on there when I get a chance and report on the differences, if any.
And I'll give you first refusal on my 3mm tread Bridgies
You must have a lot more power than me then...... In dry conditions I can absolutely floor the throttle, in 1st 2nd and 3rd and the car will not break traction...in fact it takes real abuse to brake traction in the wet..And I'll give you first refusal on my 3mm tread Bridgies
If I tried that in my Griff I'd have been in bother
...Yesterday, my mate was having to lift, to avoid running into the back of me..... Obviously this was on the straights, chuck a few bends in and it was a different scenario
I wonder how much of this bravado is due to geometry settings, not just mechanical grip? And also one person's 'limit' is very different to another's...
People driving the same car, intimating they are all driving gods, yet some have the ar*e end all over the place, others cant break traction even when trying...
More to it than tread depth I'd say.
FWIW, my DB9 would muller my Marcos on 95% of the drives I do. But for that one in twenty I do on a smooth, well-known road in the dry, or indeed on a smallish track like Llandow, the sheer power to weight of the Marcos would have me disappearing off in it.
People driving the same car, intimating they are all driving gods, yet some have the ar*e end all over the place, others cant break traction even when trying...
More to it than tread depth I'd say.
FWIW, my DB9 would muller my Marcos on 95% of the drives I do. But for that one in twenty I do on a smooth, well-known road in the dry, or indeed on a smallish track like Llandow, the sheer power to weight of the Marcos would have me disappearing off in it.
WantanewV12V said:
I know I stand to be accused of taking things too easy but nobody I know thinks that I am a slow driver, indeed quite the opposite. A good mix of spirited cotswold driving and motorway (50/50) probably helps rather than just fun weekend driving as some of you will obviously do. However I have now reached 14,500 miles on my V12V, owned from new, on the first set of tyres and neither the front, nor rear are ready to be replaced. I am still waiting to invest in a set of the new intermediates to offer better all year round performance (anyone bought any yet ?). My wifes illness has meant that I have put fewer miles on during the past 18 months (9500 completed in the first year)but now that she has recovered I expect to get more use again and my first change of rubber.
Had the Intermediate tyres fitted before a 1500 mile trip around Scotland a few weeks ago. Had all seasons in one trip including torrential rain and temps of 5c. The tyres and car were faultless. The car always felt planted and can thoroughly recommend them. Lunablack, I don't know what car you have but I'm assuming it's a 4.3 Vantage. I assume also that you are talking about straight line acceleration. While I find it baffling that you can't break traction in 1st, I will take it at face value.
However, I don't give a stuff about straight line acceleration. What I am interested in is staying out of the ditch and that is what I like my tyres to help me achieve.
Now if you tell me that you can't lose traction in a corner then I will start to worry!
However, I don't give a stuff about straight line acceleration. What I am interested in is staying out of the ditch and that is what I like my tyres to help me achieve.
Now if you tell me that you can't lose traction in a corner then I will start to worry!
yeti said:
I wonder how much of this bravado is due to geometry settings, not just mechanical grip? And also one person's 'limit' is very different to another's...
People driving the same car, intimating they are all driving gods, yet some have the ar*e end all over the place, others cant break traction even when trying...
More to it than tread depth I'd say.
FWIW, my DB9 would muller my Marcos on 95% of the drives I do. But for that one in twenty I do on a smooth, well-known road in the dry, or indeed on a smallish track like Llandow, the sheer power to weight of the Marcos would have me disappearing off in it.
FWIW... I just think that with the size of tyres, the weight, and the power delivery of the V8... In dry conditions It's almost impossible to break traction without mullering the clutch...People driving the same car, intimating they are all driving gods, yet some have the ar*e end all over the place, others cant break traction even when trying...
More to it than tread depth I'd say.
FWIW, my DB9 would muller my Marcos on 95% of the drives I do. But for that one in twenty I do on a smooth, well-known road in the dry, or indeed on a smallish track like Llandow, the sheer power to weight of the Marcos would have me disappearing off in it.
I know for a fact, that if I drove my griff like that it'd end in tears...
The handling and brakes on the Vantage are in a different league from what I've been used to.... But there's no getting away from the fact that it doesn't frighten me like the tvr used to.... Would I go back?? Not a chance but I must admit I was a bit frustrated that my mate in his 16 year old bog standard car, built in Blackpool... Was giving me so much trouble
silverspeed said:
Had the Intermediate tyres fitted before a 1500 mile trip around Scotland a few weeks ago. Had all seasons in one trip including torrential rain and temps of 5c. The tyres and car were faultless. The car always felt planted and can thoroughly recommend them.
What car are you running SS ?BingoBob said:
Lunablack, I don't know what car you have but I'm assuming it's a 4.3 Vantage. I assume also that you are talking about straight line acceleration. While I find it baffling that you can't break traction in 1st, I will take it at face value.
However, I don't give a stuff about straight line acceleration. What I am interested in is staying out of the ditch and that is what I like my tyres to help me achieve.
Now if you tell me that you can't lose traction in a corner then I will start to worry!
What I'm saying is, that coming off roundabouts, mostly in 2nd, and absolutely flooring it as early as I dare, my car wouldn't even get out of shape, let alone break traction...However, I don't give a stuff about straight line acceleration. What I am interested in is staying out of the ditch and that is what I like my tyres to help me achieve.
Now if you tell me that you can't lose traction in a corner then I will start to worry!
My mate on the other hand, daren't floor his Griif at least until his wheels were pointing in the right direction, for fear of losing it......
Once he was happy to gun it, he rapidly realled me in, so much so he was having to lift..... It was only when we really got going, that the AM started to inch away, and by that time we were ready for braking for the next roundabout, where again I had the advantage.....
This is on the Shrewsbury bypass where there are loads of roundabouts, about 2 miles apart...
So despite TC, ABS 100 bhp more and all the other goodies on the AM, a good old fashioned TVR Hassled me the whole way
Tony V12V said:
silverspeed said:
Had the Intermediate tyres fitted before a 1500 mile trip around Scotland a few weeks ago. Had all seasons in one trip including torrential rain and temps of 5c. The tyres and car were faultless. The car always felt planted and can thoroughly recommend them.
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