Driver Awareness Course...

Driver Awareness Course...

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tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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George H said:
tonyhall38 said:
get thrown out.....i did....
Did you get points then instead?
nope....i was making a constructive addition to the lecture , but was asked to leave at the interval , because i was making the course last too long , and if i persisited in having a comment on every aspect of the lecture , like the camera 's being cash cows etc....i did ask if i had failed...he replied....no you passed with flying colours now fk off....

MattV12V

68 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Mine was like something out of a little britain sketch - I spent most of the session going various shades of purple and pinching myself trying to stop laughing - especially when he just couldn't understand the guy next to me who had a slight polish accent!

(36 mph in a quiet northants village - 'ooligan that I am)

yeti

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10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I now see why it's called a 'Driver Awareness Course' and also see who it's aimed at...

Of the 30 students in the class I was the ONLY one who could draw a STOP sign and a GIVE WAY sign. The only one to know the speed limits of vehicles on the roads, the only one to understand the NSL and the 30mph limit where street lights exist. Many people there would not even accept these facts as the truth when explained and got sulky.

They were not a class of idiots particularly, just utterly ignorant in the use of the roads and how to drive on them. They are your middle-lane-morons, your driver doing 40mph in a 60 limit and 40 past a school. Basically the lowest form of autopilot drivers. It is astonishing to me that they just all don't crash and die every time they get in a car. The driving test needs to be made much, much harder frown

I have spent too long driving with the Astonauts and Maserati/De Tomaso groups where everyone 'gets' driving. It's astounding how poor standards are if this cross section was anything to go by.

DB9 Ian P

2,749 posts

155 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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yeti said:
I now see why it's called a 'Driver Awareness Course' and also see who it's aimed at...

Of the 30 students in the class I was the ONLY one who could draw a STOP sign and a GIVE WAY sign. The only one to know the speed limits of vehicles on the roads, the only one to understand the NSL and the 30mph limit where street lights exist. Many people there would not even accept these facts as the truth when explained and got sulky.

They were not a class of idiots particularly, just utterly ignorant in the use of the roads and how to drive on them. They are your middle-lane-morons, your driver doing 40mph in a 60 limit and 40 past a school. Basically the lowest form of autopilot drivers. It is astonishing to me that they just all don't crash and die every time they get in a car. The driving test needs to be made much, much harder frown

I have spent too long driving with the Astonauts and Maserati/De Tomaso groups where everyone 'gets' driving. It's astounding how poor standards are if this cross section was anything to go by.
So, in summary - you had a good time then?

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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yeti said:
I now see why it's called a 'Driver Awareness Course' and also see who it's aimed at...

Of the 30 students in the class I was the ONLY one who could draw a STOP sign and a GIVE WAY sign. The only one to know the speed limits of vehicles on the roads, the only one to understand the NSL and the 30mph limit where street lights exist. Many people there would not even accept these facts as the truth when explained and got sulky.

They were not a class of idiots particularly, just utterly ignorant in the use of the roads and how to drive on them. They are your middle-lane-morons, your driver doing 40mph in a 60 limit and 40 past a school. Basically the lowest form of autopilot drivers. It is astonishing to me that they just all don't crash and die every time they get in a car. The driving test needs to be made much, much harder frown

I have spent too long driving with the Astonauts and Maserati/De Tomaso groups where everyone 'gets' driving. It's astounding how poor standards are if this cross section was anything to go by.
Try jury service and weep.
Given the bone questions being asked by fellow jurors after a 90 second powerpoint presentation left me wondering how anyone would deal with an actual case. And these people are allowed to breed as well.

yeti

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10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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DB9 Ian P said:
So, in summary - you had a good time then?
Nowhere I'd rather have been... Oh wait, I just remembered, all my mates from work went on wine-tasting day out today rolleyes

Oh well. I still have a clean driving licence, at least for now smile

Murph7355

37,733 posts

256 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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yeti said:
Nowhere I'd rather have been... Oh wait, I just remembered, all my mates from work went on wine-tasting day out today rolleyes

Oh well. I still have a clean driving licence, at least for now smile
Exactly yeti - you could always have taken the points instead, but that would have been less wise than your classmates.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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yeti said:
I now see why it's called a 'Driver Awareness Course' and also see who it's aimed at...

Of the 30 students in the class I was the ONLY one who could draw a STOP sign and a GIVE WAY sign. The only one to know the speed limits of vehicles on the roads, the only one to understand the NSL and the 30mph limit where street lights exist. Many people there would not even accept these facts as the truth when explained and got sulky.

They were not a class of idiots particularly, just utterly ignorant in the use of the roads and how to drive on them. They are your middle-lane-morons, your driver doing 40mph in a 60 limit and 40 past a school. Basically the lowest form of autopilot drivers. It is astonishing to me that they just all don't crash and die every time they get in a car. The driving test needs to be made much, much harder frown

I have spent too long driving with the Astonauts and Maserati/De Tomaso groups where everyone 'gets' driving. It's astounding how poor standards are if this cross section was anything to go by.
I was banned twice within 12 months around the age of 21, both times for totting up, a large number of fairly minor offences. My then boss insisted (and paid for) a course with BSM for my advanced test, I think it was called IAM - they teach similar things to the driving course you went on from the sound of it - it's about awareness and thinking things through but of course on a much deeper basis than the course you've just been on as it was about a dozen one to one lessons from memory

20 yrs later and I haven't had a single penalty or even been pulled over (well excluding France of course :-) ! ). I still speed, but I understand where to do it, e.g. not in built up areas. I also was trained to look much further ahead to anticipate potential problems, slow down or change lane much earlier, not tailgate, etc

Much as I mock it, my understanding of the course you've been on is that a fair number of people come away from it much more aware and as a result, safer drivers. Despite your comments on the participants, out of interest do you think some might now be safer drivers after this course ?

yeti

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10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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jonby said:
Despite your comments on the participants, out of interest do you think some might now be safer drivers after this course ?
Without a doubt! I think a lot of these folks benefitted - some of the common sense ideas that are rudimentary to anyone with a decent command of driving, like observation, anticipation and so on were totally new concepts to them. Maybe a little bit sunk in. It was well taught by two decent folks and not too patronising considering how it could have been.

No-one there would have benefitted from points, many of them seemed to have been tugged for speeding because they didn't understand the limits.

Personally the highlight for me was the free biscuits. Shortbread.

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

178 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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DB9 Ian P said:
So, in summary - you had a good time then?
I think Yeti was trying to say....





... it was EPIC!


yeti

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Neil1300R said:
DB9 Ian P said:
So, in summary - you had a good time then?
I think Yeti was trying to say....





... it was EPIC!
I was expecting to be quite angry at a relentless 'speed kills, think of the children' BRAKE-type message but it wasn't at all. Calm reasoning and good statistics, no nonsense. I didn't challenge anything (Tony-style) as I wanted to leave on time smile

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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free biscuits....i didn't get any of that and had to pay a fiver for a coffee....think i'll get caught on the 303...sounds like a much better service...

yeti

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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tonyhall38 said:
free biscuits....i didn't get any of that and had to pay a fiver for a coffee....think i'll get caught on the 303...sounds like a much better service...
Coffee was free too and they guy liked hearing about Goodwood Revival in the break. 303 the place to speed evidently...

Actually I say 'coffee was free', I'm eighty five notes down frown

Little Donkey

1,544 posts

141 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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yeti said:
Actually I say 'coffee was free', I'm eighty five notes down frown
Why, did you go to the pub for lunch?

yeti

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10,523 posts

275 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Little Donkey said:
yeti said:
Actually I say 'coffee was free', I'm eighty five notes down frown
Why, did you go to the pub for lunch?
I wish - that's what the course cost!! As I understand it, scamera money goes to central government, but this dosh goes to the local scamming partnership to fund their initiatives and pay their wages...

Little Donkey

1,544 posts

141 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Course sounds great......can see that I'm going to have to try much harder to get myself invited. Love Tony's tactic of boring his way off the course, brilliant!

Ice27

802 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Worth doing the course if only to realise the real standard of other road users!!
We tend to blindly assume all the Other drivers are of a similar standard to ourselves and know what they're doing...!!

AMDBSNick

6,997 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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yeti said:
The driving test needs to be made much, much harder frown
Totally agree matey. However they would still pass and then go on to bumble around at 40 with no perception of what was going on around them rolleyes

George H

14,707 posts

164 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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jonby said:
I was banned twice within 12 months around the age of 21, both times for totting up, a large number of fairly minor offences. My then boss insisted (and paid for) a course with BSM for my advanced test, I think it was called IAM - they teach similar things to the driving course you went on from the sound of it - it's about awareness and thinking things through but of course on a much deeper basis than the course you've just been on as it was about a dozen one to one lessons from memory

20 yrs later and I haven't had a single penalty or even been pulled over (well excluding France of course :-) ! ). I still speed, but I understand where to do it, e.g. not in built up areas. I also was trained to look much further ahead to anticipate potential problems, slow down or change lane much earlier, not tailgate, etc

Much as I mock it, my understanding of the course you've been on is that a fair number of people come away from it much more aware and as a result, safer drivers. Despite your comments on the participants, out of interest do you think some might now be safer drivers after this course ?
I did the IAM course after my Fiesta ended up like this:



So I could get cheaper insurance mainly. (Crash wasn't entirely speed related btw since the majority of people jump to that conclusion).

For a while, I stuck to speed limits and drove to a pretty good standard. I then started to speed more and more, I did pick up some good stuff - looking a lot further ahead and anticipating what's going to happen being the main one. Overall, it probably was worth it as I still use some of the stuff I learned on it today.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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michael gould said:
I know of 3 people who have been on the course (including my darling wife) and all have said it was a good experience ....stau open minded Lewis smile
My wife said the same.