Aston up for sale

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RJJ

360 posts

199 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Zod said:
BMW would be perfect. They have the world's best engines and they've shown they understand British prestige brands through their outstanding management of Rolls Royce. They also have the problem of being unable to persuade people to pay £100k+ for a BMW sports coupe, convertible or saloon. Owning Aston Martin would solve that instantly.
Agree with that, proven track record is a bonus & would inspire confidence they can put Aston Martin in the forefront again.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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BMW need to do something to address the hammering that Audi is giving them.

Not sure if buying a small niche provider will help scratchchin

Edited by Jockman on Saturday 10th November 10:12

Jon39

12,862 posts

144 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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peter450 said:
................ and little value has been added to the brand under there few years in charge
We have two topics running on the same subject. Can they be combined?
...............

I only have a sketchy knowledge of the inside numbers, but I think praise
is due to the present managemant, for their determined push into export markets. I undrstand that 80% of production is now exported.

craigjm

17,981 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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RJJ said:
Agree with that, proven track record is a bonus & would inspire confidence they can put Aston Martin in the forefront again.
I still think they would be better of with Toyota. BMW could do what they did with RR because the brand was virtually dead and didnt really have any viable products so it was a start from scratch, Look with they did to Rover....

Cheib

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23,293 posts

176 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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craigjm said:
RJJ said:
Agree with that, proven track record is a bonus & would inspire confidence they can put Aston Martin in the forefront again.
I still think they would be better of with Toyota. BMW could do what they did with RR because the brand was virtually dead and didnt really have any viable products so it was a start from scratch, Look with they did to Rover....
The Rolls Royce brand was dead ? Beg to differ.

BMW have also done pretty well out of Mini.....which was arguably more dead than RR as it hadn't been in production for a long time.

craigjm

17,981 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Cheib said:
The Rolls Royce brand was dead ? Beg to differ.

BMW have also done pretty well out of Mini.....which was arguably more dead than RR as it hadn't been in production for a long time.
My point is both brands were very out of date whereas Aston isnt. Something which is out of date is easier to remodel than a company that already has a certain image and various models.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Jockman said:
BMW need to do something to address the hammering that Audi is giving them.

Not sure if buying a small niche provider will help scratchchin

Edited by Jockman on Saturday 10th November 10:12
What hammering is that? They're selling record numbers of cars. The fact that the knob element has moved from BMW to Audi makes Audi's much more conspicuous that's all. Audi has increased sales enormously, but from a much lower base.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Zod said:
.... The fact that the knob element has moved from BMW to Audi makes Audi's much more conspicuous that's all...
Agreed, though those 'knobs' had money as good as your's or mine (or at least their Companies did).

Nobody likes to be hammered by a bunch of knobs.


Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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That apostrophe in the plural of Audi is going to be blamed on iOS spellcheck!

Cheib

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23,293 posts

176 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Investment Dar have issued a statement that “it has a long term plan and commitment with Aston Martin and has no plans to sell Aston Martin in the short term.”

There was too much granularity in the original story for there not to be some substance to it. Could be that they have spoken to the obvious suitors and nobody wants to pay their price....

GTDB7

958 posts

169 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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A Chinese company or conglomerate would be a good bet!

I think the Chinese market is Aston's best at the moment, so who knows.. Maybe someone from the Gangnam area of Seoul, Korea might buy it :-)

steveatesh

4,900 posts

165 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Just bumped this as saw this today:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article...

Dated 15/11/12, we can all sit on the sidelines and see how this plays out.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Get the popcorn and coke out Steve......could be a few interesting developments in the near future smile

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

161 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Everything is for sale. It's just the price which has to be agreed.


However in this case I would suggest its more likely possible suitors will watch the decline of AML and the price.




Cheib

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23,293 posts

176 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Mr Aston Martin said:
However in this case I would suggest its more likely possible suitors will watch the decline of AML and the price.
Yup. My guess here is that Investment Dar approached buyers including Toyota. They looked at the books and think the asking price is too steep. The buyers have then subsequently leaked the story to the press to try and put pressure on Investment Dar.

We now have a Mexican stand off...Aston will get sold and for less than investment Dar want. If someone was going to buy it for that price it would already have happened.

Jon39

12,862 posts

144 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Cheib said:
Investment Dar have issued a statement that “it has a long term plan and commitment with Aston Martin and has no plans to sell Aston Martin in the short term.”
http://www.inv-dar.com/innerpages.aspx?id=11&Root=no

Press release 13-Nov-2012.
'A statement issued by The Investment Dar Re Bloomberg Inaccurate reporting about Aston Martin.'

mph

2,339 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Jon39 said:
http://www.inv-dar.com/innerpages.aspx?id=11&R...

Press release 13-Nov-2012.
'A statement issued by The Investment Dar Re Bloomberg Inaccurate reporting about Aston Martin.'
"Peace in our time" wink


Little Donkey

1,544 posts

142 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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mph said:
Jon39 said:
http://www.inv-dar.com/innerpages.aspx?id=11&R...

Press release 13-Nov-2012.
'A statement issued by The Investment Dar Re Bloomberg Inaccurate reporting about Aston Martin.'
"Peace in our time" wink
Dammit, I've just sold one of the kids............

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

161 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Jon39 said:
http://www.inv-dar.com/innerpages.aspx?id=11&R...

Press release 13-Nov-2012.
'A statement issued by The Investment Dar Re Bloomberg Inaccurate reporting about Aston Martin.'
Restructuring the business debt while taking a £30,000,000 dividend shines a light on the long term commitment of the majority share holder. IMHO

It looks like AML will be a can which is kicked down the road until a successful sale.

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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mph said:
Jon39 said:
http://www.inv-dar.com/innerpages.aspx?id=11&R...

Press release 13-Nov-2012.
'A statement issued by The Investment Dar Re Bloomberg Inaccurate reporting about Aston Martin.'
"Peace in our time" wink
Would be very unlikely for Bloomberg to issue a story that was totally false. An Investment Company to deny sale talks is however standard practice.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/mm-j...