Any standard audio owners upgraded sound system?

Any standard audio owners upgraded sound system?

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stevewushu

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733 posts

202 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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My vantage has the standard sound system.
It's certainly good enough, but when certain songs come on through the iPod unit the speakers cannot handle the various frequencies and sound gets slightly distorted.

After having the denision iPod unit fitted a few weeks ago, I was quoted a couple of grand to get the premium sound system fitted (the 700W one).
Is there any other way (that has been tried by users here), that gives as good an output?


Jon39

12,839 posts

144 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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I wonder if you could fit a separate amplifier module, to increase the power output. Replacing your speakers with the Premium 700w type speakers, would then cope with the extra power.

I understand the Premium audio is an Alpine unit.

MaverickAM9

1,084 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Because of AM very personalised system, it's hard to change the system, unless you use thier own stuff, hence the few grand quote. It might be an idea to go to a Automotive HiFi store and ask them to test different speakers. They are the only component that can be changed without too much stress. If you got some supreme speakers it might help, the problem being is that AM's stereo system is already pretty dam good.

stevewushu

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733 posts

202 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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The chap who fitted my iPod unit said the necessary parts are £1900 alone!

SLacKer

2,622 posts

208 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Here they mention the DB9 owner upgraded and was disappointed so they binned the amp and speakers and fitted alternatives so it is possible to replace.

MaverickAM9

1,084 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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The only, "easy", way to put in a thumping stereo is to add your own. In that you put in your own system completely and run it either by your phone, new head unit or remote control. You can of course use the speakers (which you would need to change), but the rest needs to be new and independant. I don't think you can take the old one out without the rest of the info system stop working.

Whilst this may seem a bit extreme to put a second system in, it could be VERY cost effective and the sky is the limit as to what you can have. 1kw or 2 kw system would be easily attainable, although you will be short on space in the boot with the introduction of amps. But amps have come on a lot over the years and are smaller and lighter (but they may need air cooling) if you start looking at a 2kw type system.

897sma

3,364 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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SLacKer said:
Here they mention the DB9 owner upgraded and was disappointed so they binned the amp and speakers and fitted alternatives so it is possible to replace.
Just up the road from me in Sheffield, I'll be giving them a call on Monday

SLacKer

2,622 posts

208 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Just searched 6speedonline.com for Audio Upgrade and there are pages of threads. One guy changed the door speakers and improved his enjoyment for $100. Worth a read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCXxn6RJsT0

DB9 upgrade our cousins across the pond love the modding.

Edited by SLacKer on Friday 23 November 22:26

MaverickAM9

1,084 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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897sma, it would be bril if you could post how you get on. This subject keeps cropping up and it would be good to get a definative idea of what can be done.

stevewushu

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733 posts

202 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Agreed. I think there are many standard audio owners out there who could benefit from a good upgrade to their juke boxes!

MaverickAM9

1,084 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Just found this in only a minute or so;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-ORANGE-CAR-HIFI-SET-...

Looks like you can get 4Kw, yes 4000 watts, for about £1k, ok you'll need a head unit, but the £1k system can easily be customised to incorporate a stack of speakers and even 2 amps. 8Kw !!!!!! Easily attainable for LESS than AM want for an upgrade. Imagine 8Kw ? That would make the windows shake, would defo need it's own power supply

897sma

3,364 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Will do. mine has the 260W system which is ok but not particularly loud and any base causes the sub woofer to thump. The system in my Audi is fking awesome, why can't AM manage this without spending thousands. IMO they took a step backwards (and probably spent £1000's more than necessary) from the DB7 when they decided to integrate instead of a standard din fitting. I swapped the ste becker 80's throwback out of that for a top end pioneer with iPod, Bluetooth phone, memory card, for about £500 - it sounded brilliant, and more to the point I could have swapped it again easily when new tech such as DAB came out.

Edited by 897sma on Friday 23 November 22:47

stevewushu

Original Poster:

733 posts

202 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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I know!
I did the same in my former DB7.
The sound was awesome as a result!

I'm not saying the sound from my standard V8V is bad. In fact it's quite alright.
But I want better. Much better!
But of course I need to consider the mounting cost! And ultimate resale will not change much with an aftermarket hifi. If anything it could (not definitely) hinder the sale. (Which is no where near consideration yet!)

Possibility of finding a banged up vantage with the upgrade? Purchase the necessaries?

MaverickAM9

1,084 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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I have exactly the same stereo, and am thinking of an upgrade myself (hence my interest in this thread), thinking about it, it might pay me to upgrade the system and use an ipod to run it. For £2k, you seem to get 8Kw system. Umm, lets see how this threat pans out ......

897sma

3,364 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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For me a decent stereo upgrade would be higher on my list than engine/performance mods. Yes I do drive much of the time with it off so I can listen to the car but there are other times I want to listen to music or the radio, etc, and when I do I want it to be great.

MaverickAM9

1,084 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Agree 100%

peterr96

2,226 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Typing this on a non smart phone so i'll keep it brief! Check out my thread on known issue with v8v stereo and if you've got the bluetooth stereo kit make sure you eliminate that relay before splashing cash.

Stonic

169 posts

149 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Its not the Watts what count (sorry couldn't resist). 4000w will create a loud noise but I bet the one in the link posted by Slaker that uses a Audison SRx amp sounds a million times better and its only 4 x 6ow output. I have always run pretty low watt amps in car and home with a focus on audio quality and matched speakers. These days the focus is on how many db can be produced but not sure thats what the OP wants...

theno23

865 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Yeah, what Stonic said

8kw is over 11bhp, that's a significant portion of the engines power at idle, and a huge amount of heat to get rid of. Good amplifiers run at their maximum power all the time they're powered up, which suggests that any amp over about 1k would have to be a deliberately bad design, just to get round heat issues. I've got the 700w Alpine, and even that I think is a bit of fiction - there's no way the amps get hot enough for it to really be 700w, unless there's lots more scattered about than the ones behind the passenger seat? It does sound ok though, for a car system.

If it's distorting, it's far more likely to be bad speakers, physical resonance, or badly designed amps than insufficient power. Even 100w is enough to be painfully loud in a space that small, with good speakers. The power handling capability of speakers varies wildly, and good speakers cost more than good amps.

In a past life I worked on monitoring systems in recording studios, and you definitely wouldn't choose to run amps that big if you wanted it to sound ok.

If all you care about us it being loud, and you don't mind the extra weight of additional batteries and cooling systems, then I can't see why it would be a big problem. It's certainly physically possible to get that many amps in a car the size of a V8V.

theno23

865 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Oops, just realised the post was about 4kw amps, not 8kw. Still it's a load of extra power and cooling needed.