Bamford Rose engine wins AM Global challenge
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Mike and the boys at Bamford Rose - you should be justifiably proud of yourselves; unless i am much mistaken Bamford Rose engines have now powered the Euro GT4 winners, the UK GT4 sprint winners in 2010/2011 and now their 4.7 V8 engine has powered the winner of the Aston martin Global Challenge. Nothing proves reliability like racing and it looks like no-one can touch your V8s and their special sauce 
Link to Mike's area above with the full results and some pictures of the WINNING car
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Link to Mike's area above with the full results and some pictures of the WINNING car
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
George29 said:
stevewushu said:
Yeah but V8s are for kids right Yeti....
that's why the DBR9 had a V12. The V8 racing cars, just like the road cars, are an entry level Like it or not, the Vantage GTE now represents our hopes at Le Mans. A well deserved podium last year was great and could easily have been a win, but that's Le Mans for you
George29 said:
robgt said:
Hmmm,, I could be wrong, or I am just being defensive?
I'm just going off the specs but I think the DBR9 would be faster. DBR9:
600bhp
700nm
1100kg
Can't find power/torque for the V8 GTE but it says it is 95kg heavier. Doubt it is as powerful either.
V8 GTE:
1,000,000bhp
2,000,000nm
400kg
Vantagefan said:
Don't worry George I have it...
V8 GTE:
1,000,000bhp
2,000,000nm
400kg
Good one V8 GTE:
1,000,000bhp
2,000,000nm
400kg
Weight is irrelevant as there are minimum weight requirements for the classes so they're all stuffed full of lumps of lead to increase ther weight to the minimum standard.
Power... Probably also boadly similar as they all breathe through air restrictors so that no car should have a power advantage.
Torque and reliability due to being unstressed on the other hand...
In an attempt to revoke the rolly eyes I did try and dig out actual specs but could only find that weight is around 1330kg.
However, despite being underpowered and underperforming aginast the GT4 brother I could find the N24 spec. It weighedf the same as the GT4 car and as they raced against each other in the one make series without there being a gargantuan difference I'd happily assume the GT4 power was similar to this with the difference in the two cars being mostly acceleration and power mapping in throttle delivery:
Power output of 410bhp (305KW) at 7500rpm
However, despite being underpowered and underperforming aginast the GT4 brother I could find the N24 spec. It weighedf the same as the GT4 car and as they raced against each other in the one make series without there being a gargantuan difference I'd happily assume the GT4 power was similar to this with the difference in the two cars being mostly acceleration and power mapping in throttle delivery:
Power output of 410bhp (305KW) at 7500rpm
Vantagefan said:
In an attempt to revoke the rolly eyes I did try and dig out actual specs but could only find that weight is around 1330kg.
However, despite being underpowered and underperforming aginast the GT4 brother I could find the N24 spec. It weighedf the same as the GT4 car and as they raced against each other in the one make series without there being a gargantuan difference I'd happily assume the GT4 power was similar to this with the difference in the two cars being mostly acceleration and power mapping in throttle delivery:
Power output of 410bhp (305KW) at 7500rpm
So what it'll be is that all cars in the class have a maxiumum power of 410bhp (controlled with the use of air restrictors) and a minimum weight of 1330kg. That's how it works However, despite being underpowered and underperforming aginast the GT4 brother I could find the N24 spec. It weighedf the same as the GT4 car and as they raced against each other in the one make series without there being a gargantuan difference I'd happily assume the GT4 power was similar to this with the difference in the two cars being mostly acceleration and power mapping in throttle delivery:
Power output of 410bhp (305KW) at 7500rpm
The original 4.3 N24/GT4 cars were 420bhp because they were lovingly handbuilt at the factory by basically, the guys that became Bamford Rose
So those race engines were 40bhp up on stock factory engines. When the 4.7 came along, they simply used the factory floor production engine as a race engine at only 430bhp, up 10bhp from standard due to powerflow air filters.
The reason the BR handbuilt 4.7 engines (such as in Pommehogsters car) produce so much more power than factory is due to the return to their handbuilt attention to detail. The extra horsepower is pretty apparent from the starting line... the Bamford Rose engines cars versus the factory racing cars were affectionatley known as 'scalded cats' such was their nature to fly off the line
Edited by yeti on Monday 10th December 16:48
When I first went to BR they had not dabbled into road car modification so I brought in to what they had achieved with the likes of Mathol racing and Rhesus racing. I could tell straight away they new their stuff. It pays a massive compliment to the guys who can out perform Astons own top engineers and produce the most reliable,strongest and best performance engines currently running in Any Astons racing.
For us its very comforting knowing that the work carried out at BR on our Pride and joy has been tried and tested at the highest level.
Well done to Mike, Adrian and of course Bruce as well. You guys deserve a big thank you from us as you have made them the cars they should have always been.
On to another point through many chats with Mike who will testify that the V8 Vantage is quicker around the norscliff and many other tracks than the V12 So sorry boys the extra power doesn't beat the extra weight !
For us its very comforting knowing that the work carried out at BR on our Pride and joy has been tried and tested at the highest level.
Well done to Mike, Adrian and of course Bruce as well. You guys deserve a big thank you from us as you have made them the cars they should have always been.
On to another point through many chats with Mike who will testify that the V8 Vantage is quicker around the norscliff and many other tracks than the V12 So sorry boys the extra power doesn't beat the extra weight !
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