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kevindbs

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46 posts

134 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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I regularly use zymol concours wax

I have been informed at the carfestnorth show that there are better waxes now in the market eg maguires etc

what's the best polish guys?? quantum silver coloured car

bogie

16,428 posts

273 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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dunno if there is such a best as it depends a lot on your aim and what state the paint is in now. Don't confuse a polish with a wax....or sealant though as they are all different

personally, I go for the low maintenance long lasting approach and have had the car detailed and polymer sealed twice in the 6 years Ive had it ...then just use the quick detail spray a couple of times a year in between. All from gtechniq

others will have their own preferences....

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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Harly wax yes

mikey k

13,012 posts

217 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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As bogie says are you sure it is just wax you are after?
The stages for the best results are;
Wash off ALL the stuff that is on their to get back to bare paint
Clay bar it to remove surface crap (insects, sap etc)
Paint correction as required, best done by a professional for best results
A glaze/filler to get the wet look
A sealant to seal it in
A wax to add depth and protect the above

There are products out there that do the last 3 stages in one
When I CBA I use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax as I can smear a thin film all over the car even if it is still damp then polish it off
The full monty works best though
I did mine Oct 11 after I got it from the factory it still looks the same now after a quick wash
I might redo it this winter

Edited by mikey k on Saturday 10th August 06:33

V8 Animal

5,932 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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With silver your unlikely to see a difference with the products bright colours could benefit.

paddy328

2,905 posts

186 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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In my opinion, Swissvax best of show is better than concours, but as has already been said, you need to have it machine polished to get the best start. The biggest difference you can make to the look of a car is to have it machine polished, even from new. I've done far too many new cars that have needed at least 2 days polishing spent on them. I'm beginning to think the final inspection guys must have all come down with hay fever or something!

Most of what mikey said is true, but you can only apply a glaze under one of the cheaper sealant, as the proper ones (modesta bc-05, gtechniq, 22PLE) need a bare surface to adhere too.

In answer to your question, first get the car detailed, then decide if you want a long term sealant which will give a slightly different look to a wax or wait until your concours has run out and then get best of show.

If you can stretch to it, you can always try one of the higher end waxes or even have the sealant applied and then wax over the top.

I probably independently detail more Astons than any other Detailer in the uk, so I know what looks good and works best. If you want any advice, just drop me an email.

Francis

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

271 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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paddy328 said:
In my opinion, Swissvax best of show is better than concours, but as has already been said, you need to have it machine polished to get the best start. The biggest difference you can make to the look of a car is to have it machine polished, even from new. I've done far too many new cars that have needed at least 2 days polishing spent on them. I'm beginning to think the final inspection guys must have all come down with hay fever or something!

Most of what mikey said is true, but you can only apply a glaze under one of the cheaper sealant, as the proper ones (modesta bc-05, gtechniq, 22PLE) need a bare surface to adhere too.

In answer to your question, first get the car detailed, then decide if you want a long term sealant which will give a slightly different look to a wax or wait until your concours has run out and then get best of show.

If you can stretch to it, you can always try one of the higher end waxes or even have the sealant applied and then wax over the top.

I probably independently detail more Astons than any other Detailer in the uk, so I know what looks good and works best. If you want any advice, just drop me an email.

Francis
What's the difference in look between the sealant and wax you mentioned?

paddy328

2,905 posts

186 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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A wax will give more of a wet look, but a sealant will give more of a glassy look. Swissvax divine gives a sharp reflective look though.

V8LM

5,179 posts

210 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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kevindbs said:
I regularly use zymol concours wax

I have been informed at the carfestnorth show that there are better waxes now in the market eg maguires etc

what's the best polish guys?? quantum silver coloured car
I use Zymol glazes too. To me there is something not right in using products that claim to 'chemically bond' to the surface and use 'nanotechnology' n st. I know all glazes contain a mixture of stuff, but at least Zymol focus on the white carnauba, which I understand. My cars currently wear a mix of Zymol Royale and Atlantique. As said, prep is key though.

Speedraser

1,658 posts

184 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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Zymol Concours on my Onyx Black V8V -- looks fantastic!

Arjxh56

325 posts

140 months

Monday 12th August 2013
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I use Swissvax Crystal Rock and I find it works very well. I did as paddy suggested though, took it from the dealer fourcourt to be detailed the next day (Swissvax in North yorkshire).. Once they had worked magic on the substandard AM prepared paintwork the difference was awesome! I now just keep it maintained with a good washing process and the occasional top up of wax.


Jalfonse

241 posts

141 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Bought some of the mcguires nxt 2.0 and tried it tonight, bit difficult to get off unless you let it dry properly (simple solution for that though....) but am really pleased with the result :-) good at hiding few light scratches I had without even trying to. Been watching YouTube on how to 'properly' wash the car and makes me reluctant to go back to the Polish again now I appreciate how the swirl marks can be caused with poor practises etc :-/

snipez999

305 posts

131 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Have had my last 5 cars detailed with Swissvax at PDI stage before dealer is allowed to get carried away. Just a quick snow foam and a rinse to keep her looking good between fortnightly details is all that's needed. Quick detailer and m'fibre always carried in boot for bird poo or suicid bees; they wipe off very easily. Do the groundwork properly and it's a breeze after that.

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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If only someone would create a thread on car cleaning and detailing and put it in the FAQ's Wiki!

whistle

lady topaz

3,855 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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V8LM said:
I use Zymol glazes too. To me there is something not right in using products that claim to 'chemically bond' to the surface and use 'nanotechnology' n st. I know all glazes contain a mixture of stuff, but at least Zymol focus on the white carnauba, which I understand. My cars currently wear a mix of Zymol Royale and Atlantique. As said, prep is key though.
In spite of the hype 'white carnauba' does not exist. In powder form Prime yellow type 1 looks white but once melted it is pale yellow. It's main use in powder form is for polishing sweets or tablets. A huge myth has grown up around Carnauba to justify the ridiculous premium on it.

Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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lady topaz said:
In spite of the hype 'white carnauba' does not exist. In powder form Prime yellow type 1 looks white but once melted it is pale yellow. It's main use in powder form is for polishing sweets or tablets. A huge myth has grown up around Carnauba to justify the ridiculous premium on it.
And Tony would know wink

snipez999

305 posts

131 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Iain tells me he put 2 coats of G3 on the baby from the off, hence incredible water bead when I do my mid visit snow foams

V12woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Just applied some R222 to Sparkly and it looks stunning. It has had great reviews and given it is relatively cheap it looks fantastic.

V12woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Just applied some R222 to Sparkly and it looks stunning. It has had great reviews and given it is relatively cheap it looks fantastic.

woolders

873 posts

158 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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V12woollie said:
Just applied some R222 to Sparkly and it looks stunning. It has had great reviews and given it is relatively cheap it looks fantastic.
Obviously twice as sparkly as before.