New Vantage V12 For Sale!!!

New Vantage V12 For Sale!!!

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Nijius Maximus

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586 posts

112 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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kbooker said:
thanks for the tips gentlemen, chips/cracks aside is there anything to look for on the ceramic brakes, if you ask, Ferrari will give a % wear measurement, can Aston do the same?
Yep they do the same, for example on mine they were 10% worn. Good luck!

J12KJR

2,860 posts

244 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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My understanding was that AM only work on weighing the disks at every 3rd pad change, did the dealer take them off and weigh them for you to get the wear rate?

Nijius Maximus

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586 posts

112 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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J12KJR said:
My understanding was that AM only work on weighing the disks at every 3rd pad change, did the dealer take them off and weigh them for you to get the wear rate?
They actually took the wheels off anyway to send them away to be refurbished. I asked for various conditions of things and the workshop got back to the sales guy a day later so they must've taken the discs off...

Mako V12V

3,135 posts

215 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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C997 said:
Mako, do you have 542 on the register?
Hi there. Yes I do. The entry is complete. But my "other info" box is pretty sparse apart from it was for sale at AM Edinburgh in June 2014 with 810m on it and the selling price!

t0s

1,555 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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kbooker said:
It is indeed Cayman-Black, hope it all checks out when I view it, is there anything I need to be especially checking on a V12?

Kevin.
Have them refurbish or replace the door sills which are easily scratched, and check the piano black fascia for scratches. Looks like you have the brake rotors covered, but feel them -they should b smooth, not rough. Will you go with Corsa's if they are on?

woodsypedia

870 posts

154 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Congrats Kevin. One thing that's worth keeping an eye out for is a squeeky clutch. It's not impactful or faulty, just a pain in the arse. Clutches are a wear and tear item and they don't always come in under warranty. If it's particularly noisy (you'll notice this when you move off in first gear briskly) then try to get it replaced as part of the deal. It's a known issue. Again though, it makes no mechanical difference and doesn't effect the operation, it's just irritating smile

Also, if it hasn't had the Bluetooth upgrade done, get it done. I'm a huge audiophile and having Spotify streaming from the phone is marvellous. Helps when you're short of tunnels in your area smile

Best wishes

Chris.

FFM

392 posts

102 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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woodsypedia said:
I'm puzzled why the dealers haven't cashed in on the limited supply story. I was expecting to see prices rising accordingly and they really haven't. Cars are still sticking around the low to mid £80's.

Chris.
That's the same question I asked myself. would be also interesting to understand how much is approx. the dealer's cut should you trade this car back, given how "liquid" this market is?

Do you have any insights guys?

t0s

1,555 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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FFM said:
That's the same question I asked myself. would be also interesting to understand how much is approx. the dealer's cut should you trade this car back, given how "liquid" this market is?

Do you have any insights guys?
FWIW, the V8V I part-ex'd my V12 is on the market for £9.5K above my part-ex price. At the time they talked about min £5-7K to prep a car for sales (which I thought was in perfect condition apart from wheels needing refurb).

Nijius Maximus

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586 posts

112 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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t0s said:
FWIW, the V8V I part-ex'd my V12 is on the market for £9.5K above my part-ex price. At the time they talked about min £5-7K to prep a car for sales (which I thought was in perfect condition apart from wheels needing refurb).
I can concur with this. When I was looking at part exchanging or selling to a buyer my R8 I was told that the official Audi dealers normally need to add £10k on top of your price for car prep, warranty and of course profit.

Obviously less for cheaper Audis. But still a significant difference. I was being offered £15k less than I think my car is worth from the Aston dealers so I've gone back to the dealer I bought it from and he's gonna sell it for me at even more than I'd be happy to sell it. Haha. biggrin

Basically unless you're desperate for the money then just sell it yourself or get an independent dealer to sell it for you and let them take a cut. I was lucky as I didn't need the money and can wait.

With regards to the V12V though as demand is so high I'm sure they're offering far better prices to sellers...

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Edited by Nijius Maximus on Monday 8th February 09:49

ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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kbooker said:
thanks for the tips gentlemen, chips/cracks aside is there anything to look for on the ceramic brakes, if you ask, Ferrari will give a % wear measurement, can Aston do the same?
I'd make sure its got a warranty on it and then take it down for an independent inspection. Mine has been serviced by a main dealer all its life and never really had any warnings on it, its been inspected by an indi and I've got quite a large repair bill coming. To say I'm annoyed is an understatement, however she's a keeper and I know she'll be incredible when I collect her this week wink - These are solid cars and my list is largely a few niggles but they add up.

Trust me, it'll be worth spending the inspection money and getting AM to fix the issues for you. PM me if you want more info.

woodsypedia

870 posts

154 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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ds2000 said:
I'd make sure its got a warranty on it and then take it down for an independent inspection. Mine has been serviced by a main dealer all its life and never really had any warnings on it, its been inspected by an indi and I've got quite a large repair bill coming. To say I'm annoyed is an understatement, however she's a keeper and I know she'll be incredible when I collect her this week wink - These are solid cars and my list is largely a few niggles but they add up.

Trust me, it'll be worth spending the inspection money and getting AM to fix the issues for you. PM me if you want more info.
This is interesting. I've just renewed my warranty so now might be the time for a check up with an indie to verify its in working order and get AM to resolve anything outstanding.

Chris.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

139 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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woodsypedia said:
ds2000 said:
I'd make sure its got a warranty on it and then take it down for an independent inspection. Mine has been serviced by a main dealer all its life and never really had any warnings on it, its been inspected by an indi and I've got quite a large repair bill coming. To say I'm annoyed is an understatement, however she's a keeper and I know she'll be incredible when I collect her this week wink - These are solid cars and my list is largely a few niggles but they add up.

Trust me, it'll be worth spending the inspection money and getting AM to fix the issues for you. PM me if you want more info.
This is interesting. I've just renewed my warranty so now might be the time for a check up with an indie to verify its in working order and get AM to resolve anything outstanding.

Chris.
Yes very much so.
I think I'll look at doing the same before my warranty runs out next December.

ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I personally think its well worth it, (1) for peace of mind and (2) it could save you a good bit of money down the line

FFM

392 posts

102 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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t0s said:
FWIW, the V8V I part-ex'd my V12 is on the market for £9.5K above my part-ex price. At the time they talked about min £5-7K to prep a car for sales (which I thought was in perfect condition apart from wheels needing refurb).
Do you mean 9.5k without a "discount" on the V12V?

t0s

1,555 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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FFM said:
Do you mean 9.5k without a "discount" on the V12V?
To be clear, I did not get any discount on the V12V vs the dealer price. Instead we discussed the V8V part-ex's price - so all / any "discount" was reflected in getting a better part ex than they inititally quoted. The V8V is currently listed for 9.5K above this final part ex price.

Ken Figenus

5,714 posts

118 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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ds2000 said:
I'd make sure its got a warranty on it and then take it down for an independent inspection.
Was this on top of the dealers 140 point inspection? I have quite mixed feelings about that myself - can you give an example of a significant omission? Thx

ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Ken Figenus said:
Was this on top of the dealers 140 point inspection? I have quite mixed feelings about that myself - can you give an example of a significant omission? Thx
If the 140 point inspection is as thorough as £1400 service (it should be more thorough) then expect a few things to go through the gaps... As I say, if your car has a warranty, have it independently inspected before you bin/renew it and make sure its in tip top shape smile

Example of omissions, rear and handbrake pads in pieces, brake caliper sliders not working correctly (not regreased, which has led to premature wear), 2x new wheel bearings needed and a new bush, no advisory for any of it. Granted some, if not all, of this could be seen as consumables, given the car has done about 2.5k in 2 years with me (400 miles since the last service) these are problems that have been about for a while and missed for a while.

If you're getting your car from a dealer you'd expect these to be rectified before delivery, if they can miss it on a service, where its easy/customer money, they may well miss it on an inspection/road test. (This is only part of my issue list but all getting sorted now)

To reiterate, I love my car and its a keeper, these are solid motors but bits that are left unaddressed can mount up to a more expensive bill.

Mako V12V

3,135 posts

215 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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woodsypedia said:
Congrats Kevin. One thing that's worth keeping an eye out for is a squeeky clutch...... If it's particularly noisy (you'll notice this when you move off in first gear briskly) then try to get it replaced as part of the deal. It's a known issue. Again though, it makes no mechanical difference and doesn't effect the operation, it's just irritating smile

Best wishes

Chris.
Hi Chris, the updated clutch on V12V's came around vin S00600-650. Mine is S00307 and had mine replaced under warranty due to this noise/rattle. I've read somewhere it is a rattle to some metal housing type thing.
But, the new clutch is mechanically better than my old one, particularly in sport mode. I was told it has different mapping/software which is better in some way.

HTH

woodsypedia

870 posts

154 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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Mako V12V said:
Hi Chris, the updated clutch on V12V's came around vin S00600-650. Mine is S00307 and had mine replaced under warranty due to this noise/rattle. I've read somewhere it is a rattle to some metal housing type thing.
But, the new clutch is mechanically better than my old one, particularly in sport mode. I was told it has different mapping/software which is better in some way.

HTH
Thanks Mako - that helps. I might try to get this done this year.

Cheers

Chris

kbooker

728 posts

140 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Little update...viewed and drove the car yesterday afternoon, fell in love with it, hopefully picking it up next week biggrin