AML - NEW UK SALES

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Agent57

1,661 posts

155 months

Wednesday 16th March 2022
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I see elsewhere, Bentley seem to be doing rather well.

Jon39

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12,835 posts

144 months

Wednesday 8th June 2022
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oilit said:
interesting that April 22 was (marginally) lower than April 21 (covid year).

I also wonder what the 'other' was -?

The Vantage is holding up better than the DBX YoY

1 Valkyrie delivered - wow - no wonder there has been a CEO change.

Moving forward one month.

UK New Car Registrations - Aston Martin

May 2021 = 111
May 2022 = 67

Jan to May 2021 = 478
Jan to May 2022 = 482


We will may never know which cars are in the 'Other' category.

AML development test cars are probably included, because a while back the DVLA reduced the amount of information for those vehicles.
No mention now of model name, or engine capacity. That spoilt our investigative fun!

Perhaps the Newport Pagnell re-creation models might be included.

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Would you believe that the make with greatest year on year percentage increase, is MG ?
Only about 200 cars behind Mini.

The Chinese are coming.


oilit

2,632 posts

179 months

Wednesday 8th June 2022
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Thanks Jon - that is interesting about the May drop - do you have the breakdown by model for May?

Re MG - that doesn't surprise me, there seem to be tons of the MG SUV’s around - and when you look at the detail and think about it - its an easy choice for many-

suv - check,
brand name everyone knows - check,
electric option available - check,
7 year warranty - check,
Sub £17k - check (petrol version)
In stock - check (202 new cars in stock right now)
£1000 deposit and £219 a month 3.9% apr (what do aston try to charge you these days - a friend just bought a Mclaren and he was quoted 6.x%)





Edited by oilit on Wednesday 8th June 09:23

Shrimpvende

860 posts

93 months

Wednesday 8th June 2022
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Interesting about MG - although I have to say their EV's are really good. My partner looked at the ZS EV and it was by far the fastest/longest range/best spec out there for the money.

Anyway, this is an Aston forum not MG! Somewhat disappointing results, I'm not sure how badly Gaydon are suffering with supply issues vs lack of demand for the cars?

When I was last at my local MD they said I could still get a new car within 3-4 months which I'm sure isn't far off the norm - a stark contrast to Porsche where I have a couple of deposits against cars I'm very unlikely to see until this time next year at the earliest!

Jon39

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12,835 posts

144 months

Wednesday 8th June 2022
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oilit said:
Thanks Jon - that is interesting about the May drop - do you have the breakdown by model for May?

No. The only data for that is the DVLA quarterly spreadsheet publication.
It takes so long for them to publish each update, we have lost the will !

The monthly make figures must be derived from DVLA, but is published promptly by SMMT. Since 2018, they have omitted Aston Martin, but it is available here,

https://www.am-online.com/data/manufacturer-insigh...

Always annoying that the UK is only a part of the story for us.


Jon39

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144 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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The January Great Britain new registration figure are available.

January 2023 = 106
January 2022 = 110

McLaren still have very low numbers.
January 2023 = 8
January 2022 = 12

The Chinese SUVs with MG badges, continue to increase sales.
January 2023 = 7433
January 2022 = 3560


Longy00000

1,352 posts

41 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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I was quite impressed with the AM figures when compared with other premium.brands. I'm sure the DBX has a lot to do with it, the demand for SUVs appears to be ever increasing.

Jon39

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12,835 posts

144 months

Tuesday 7th March 2023
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The February Great Britain new registration figures are available.

February 2023 = 22
February 2022 = 17

Year to date = 1 car more than last year.
February and August are always slow seller months.

March will have higher numbers.
(If you don't have your own registration mark, must wait to show off car with reg. 23 - well, at least until September !)

McLaren still puzzles me, 4 cars in February. I suppose they can claim a 100% increase from 2022.
I see that there are 6 UK McLaren dealers, so some did not sell any new McLarens for delivery in February.
Hope those 4 were not dealer demonstrators !

Other standouts;
Bentley ............ = 41 (Feb 2022 = 57)
Ferrari ............. = 18 (22)
Lamborghini .... = 33 (30)
Lotus ................= 55 (7)
Porsche ........... = 567 (377)


Jon39

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12,835 posts

144 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Monthly UK sales numbers are now available for March.

Aston Martin
March 2023 = 178 ...... (Mar 22 = 214) -17%
Year to date = 306 ...... (YTD 22 = 341) -10%

2022 Annual Report, the Executive Chairman said, "We have strong demand across the portfolio with around 80%
of our production of current sports cars sold out for 2023 and a stronger DBX order book running into Q3 2023."

Presumably the export markets must be going well, but we always have to wait for AML to announce those figures.

Jon39

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Sunday 7th May 2023
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3rd May 2023.
Lawrence Stroll, Executive Chairman, Aston Martin Lagonda.

“Since the start of the year, we have continued to see strong demand across our product range, with our
current range of sports cars essentially sold out for the year. The DBX707, the first car developed under
my leadership, continues to receive broad media acclaim and, with a growing number incredibly satisfied
customers, is strengthening the DBX orderbook in our all major markets, as well as our overall financial
performance.”

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UK new Aston Martin registrations.

April 2023 = 55 ( Apr 2022 = 74 ) ........... Average between 2 and 3 per dealer.

2023 YTD = 361 ( 2022 YTD = 415 )

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confused

What is the difference between 'sold out' and 'essentially sold out' ?


SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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One is a lie, and one is a lie with wriggle-room.

ZT260SE

114 posts

23 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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SpeckledJim said:
One is a lie, and one is a lie with wriggle-room.
Very good! All the dealers I spoke to in looking for my used Vantage had stock in for immediate delivery they’d have done deals on in a heartbeat. Maybe that puts them in the latter category?

LTP

2,077 posts

113 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Jon39 said:

3rd May 2023.
Lawrence Stroll, Executive Chairman, Aston Martin Lagonda.
<snip>
The DBX707, the first car developed under my leadership......
FFS. If that's a car developed under his leadership then when I repaint the bathroom door what I'm actually doing is designing and building a luxury gated community

Calinours

1,124 posts

51 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Maybe the slick old fox is used to dealing with a customer base where it is perhaps easier to operate under the principles of “you can fool some of the people all of the time….”

Simpo Two

85,490 posts

266 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Calinours said:
Maybe the slick old fox is used to dealing with a customer base where it is perhaps easier to operate under the principles of “you can fool some of the people all of the time….”
And if they're rich enough, that's all you need.


'Essentially sold out' = not sold out. You're either sold out or you aren't. And why do you want to sell out anyway? Being sold out means you could have sold more and made more money!

Jon39

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12,835 posts

144 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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AML is not in the Bottom Five.

Perhaps McLaren are selling lots of export cars, but if not, they must be worried.





A clear illustration of why the motor trade wanted year registration marks to change twice each year.
So many buyers wanting to display the latest registration date mark, certainly sells cars.

Much cheaper to spend a couple of thousand on a dateless registration mark for life.
No need to keep buying new March and September cars then. Think how much one would save.


M1AGM

2,356 posts

33 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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For me the the Stroll ultra luxury thing is completely at odds with his business background. The brands he (or his Dad) marketed have become mass market crap, the opposite of ultra luxury.

As with a lot of people, being good at one trick doesn’t automatically qualify them to be good at anything else, despite personal beliefs.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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M1AGM said:
For me the the Stroll ultra luxury thing is completely at odds with his business background. The brands he (or his Dad) marketed have become mass market crap, the opposite of ultra luxury.

As with a lot of people, being good at one trick doesn’t automatically qualify them to be good at anything else, despite personal beliefs.
In fairness that’s how you make money out of a prestigious brand.

Up the volume, cut the price. Sell the mass-produced new stuff on the strength of the old low-volume brand.

VW are making half a billion a year from Bentley that way. But they’ve done it so well that they’re putting the prices back up again, without losing the big new volumes.


AstonZagato

12,712 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Lawrence Stroll said:

The DBX707, the first car developed under my leadership, continues to receive broad media acclaim and, with a growing number incredibly satisfied customers, is strengthening the DBX orderbook in our all major markets, as well as our overall financial performance.
I was idly thinking about changing the Rangie recently. I wondered about a used Defender V8 as an amusing change. It seems like £105k is about the mark for a 21 plate with 10k miles.
That got me curious, so I went over to the AML site and looked at DBX: £115k for 21 plate with 10k miles.
Now, I know the point of that is that the Defender is stupidly the wrong price - but i think Land Rover are doing a better job.
I'm not sure the DBX will do the off road stuff I need or has enough boot space for my two golden retrievers so it's all a bit moot.

Jon39

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12,835 posts

144 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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Aston Martin sales figures for May.
UK New Registrations.

May 2023 ................... = 64 (May 2022 = 67)

Jan to May 2023 ....... = 425 (Jan to May 2022 = 482)

Therefore last month, an average of just under 1 new car per week, for each UK dealer.