Any V8V 4.3 owners?

Any V8V 4.3 owners?

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NickXX

1,563 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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AstonExige said:
I loved my 4.3. Other big plus point is chances are they're pretty depreciation proof. Just buy it, not a lot you can lose but loads to his . Of you don't get on just sell it
I did this, a year on and 4,000 miles later, I think I could sell it within a week for the price I paid.

TKP

127 posts

92 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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blade runner said:
Sorry, my fault for not explaining better... I was referring to the later style sill covers, front & rear bumpers abd wheels, which IMHO detract from the, near perfect, original design. Of course the early 4.7's are pretty much identical to the 4.3's which I guess is why they are so sought after.
Ok, no worries, just wanted to know where my knowledge gaps are (and didn't have the bible with me). And I have no clue if the early 4.7's are sought after, I'm in LHD country, so the choice is little. When I bought mine, there were two on the market (mandatory specs: Roadster, LHD, 4.7, manual) and I'm still monitoring the market and in the last 6 months none appeared at all.

shunt

971 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I've recently swapped my old 4.3 V8V for a V8 F Type. Much berated on here but I haven't looked back, I get the whole Aston thing but I've done more miles in 2 months than I did in 2 years in the Aston Martin.

It's such a better car than an early Vantage. Sorry chaps but if you haven't driven a V8 F Type then you can't really comment.

TKP

127 posts

92 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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shunt said:
It's such a better car than an early Vantage. Sorry chaps but if you haven't driven a V8 F Type then you can't really comment.
Don't be so defensive just because you will be "proven" wrong at least 20 times in the next 24h wink

My F31 is for sure a better car than my V8VR and your Jag adds a comparable performance, so the package is pretty complete (which my F31 doesn't have, it's a 320i). And still I'm not sure I would trade my Aston against the V8F but I have to admit I like NA engines so much more even if they suck objectively (with the Jags I would be tempted because superchargers are great, turbos... rolleyes )

Olivera

7,195 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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telum01 said:
The 4.3L V8V isn't fast or nimble from the factory. It needs more power, and it's heavy given its size. It looks and sounds far, far better than it performs (but for many, that's enough).
I concur. A standard 4.3L does not feel fast, has a poor power to weight ratio, feels heavy and doesn't like to rev.

Yes it looks pretty, but for PHers who actually like driving that just isn't enough.

shunt

971 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Olivera said:
I concur. A standard 4.3L does not feel fast, has a poor power to weight ratio, feels heavy and doesn't like to rev.

Yes it looks pretty, but for PHers who actually like driving that just isn't enough.
Àgreed 100%, looks nice though.

NeinFondue

860 posts

157 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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shunt said:
I've recently swapped my old 4.3 V8V for a V8 F Type. Much berated on here but I haven't looked back, I get the whole Aston thing but I've done more miles in 2 months than I did in 2 years in the Aston Martin.

It's such a better car than an early Vantage. Sorry chaps but if you haven't driven a V8 F Type then you can't really comment.
rolleyes

TBH, if any of us were keen or interested in an F-Type, we'd already have bought one, and if for whatever reason we hadn't, I'm sure we could find a Jaguar dealership with a salesman to tell us how much better a car it is.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

162 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Olivera said:
I concur. A standard 4.3L does not feel fast, has a poor power to weight ratio, feels heavy and doesn't like to rev.

Yes it looks pretty, but for PHers who actually like driving that just isn't enough.
Rubbish...

You talk about PHers 'who actually like driving..' The 4.3 is a great GT car, If we're talking about cars that don't 'feel fast' then the 4.7 is also slow.... and the V12 is good, but not mind blowing..

I'd suggest that the vast majority of 'PHers who actually like driving' probably don't have the kind of money available to them to buy an Aston that is properly fast...

As a PHer who actually likes driving I think the 4.3 V8V is a great car to drive... if you want something that does rev, doesn't feel heavy, and has a 'not poor' power to weight ratio then you need to look elsewhere.. unless you have ALOT of money to blow on a very expensive AM..

I have a highly modified 5 litre Chimaera, I track it, and I've taken it up the strip at Santa Pod.. It has a 0-60 of around 3.8 seconds, and a top end (theoretical) of a tad under 180.... Sorry, but saying that the performance of the V8V 'for PHers who actually like driving just isn't enough' is rubbish...

Chilli


divetheworld

2,565 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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If you "get" what an Aston does better than any other car, then you stop comparing specs and figures etc.
If you don't, then you go off and scratch a different itch.
Exotic cars are an emotional choice. We don't compare boot space, sat-navs and 0-60.

If I'm thirsty then I can drink water, so why do I buy rare plonk?
Why would your face ache if you tried to explain why your missus is better than mine?
Figure that out and you find that no one cares what's 'better' or worse. We just enjoy what makes us smile and respect the other guy who went a different way.
No knob comparison required. wink

TKP

127 posts

92 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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divetheworld said:
We don't compare sat-navs
Would for sure not be the smartest move to compare our sat-navs with anything else out there in the automotive market laugh

HBradley

1,037 posts

182 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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I'm with Brent (& others) on this; the choice of any 'exotic/aspirational' car is predominantly emotional, the numbers are by & large irrelevant. I've had a few cars that fall into that category(TVR, Audi, BMW, E-Type etc), but for me, Aston Martin were & continue to be the pinnacle of what I want in terms of style, performance & handling (oh & what I can afford!). Whilst I aspire to move up in the model range, I need look no further as regards marque. My perspective only, of course.

divetheworld

2,565 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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TKP said:
Would for sure not be the smartest move to compare our sat-navs with anything else out there in the automotive market laugh
I had a Saab once. It had satnav. If you've never had the pleasure of owning a Saab with the option of the factory satnav, allow me to regale the abject misery of an owner.
We/people complain about the Volvo based nav, and it may not be great in features. But it does get you from A to B. The interface could be slicker, but you can still program it with ease. The graphics may be a bit ZX81, but they are still easy to read.
In essence, it does what it says on the tin. Should be better in such an exotic car.
The Saab. I shudder at the prospect of putting a postcode or address into the thing. Let's say you want to go to a local train station in Sheffield. You go to set destination, select points of interest and then choose train stations. So far so good. Then it hangs while it compiles a list of every effing station in the UK. You are prompted to enter the stations name. You put in an 'S'. It then hangs again as it compiles a list of all stations starting with an 'S'. This goes on for every letter, getting quicker as the list reduces.
I sh.it you not, I could drive to effing Sheffield faster than entering a destination.
I bought a Tom-Tom. Not in protest, but through absolute necessity.
So when we slag off the old Volvo nav, I think of it with a touch more forgiveness than some.


Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

242 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Olivera said:
telum01 said:
The 4.3L V8V isn't fast or nimble from the factory. It needs more power, and it's heavy given its size. It looks and sounds far, far better than it performs (but for many, that's enough).
I concur. A standard 4.3L does not feel fast, has a poor power to weight ratio, feels heavy and doesn't like to rev.

Yes it looks pretty, but for PHers who actually like driving that just isn't enough.
It doesn't need more power, it just needs the right roads to actually exploit the car.

It's easy to get caught up, thinking it's too heavy/underpowered in daily use, but, like the venerable E30 M3, it needs to be taken by the scruff of the neck to get the best out of it and that will very rarely happen on UK roads. When it does, the whole car shines.

The F Type is often used as a comparison. That actually suffers the same fate. As it's a much newer and more assisted car, it feels faster than it actually is - particularly when compared to the 'nuts and bolts' feel of the Vantage.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

180 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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divetheworld said:
If you "get" what an Aston does better than any other car, then you stop comparing specs and figures etc.
If you don't, then you go off and scratch a different itch.
Exotic cars are an emotional choice. We don't compare boot space, sat-navs and 0-60.

If I'm thirsty then I can drink water, so why do I buy rare plonk?
Why would your face ache if you tried to explain why your missus is better than mine?
Figure that out and you find that no one cares what's 'better' or worse. We just enjoy what makes us smile and respect the other guy who went a different way.
No knob comparison required. wink
Nicely put Brent, as ever. Aston Martin occupy a very specific space in the luxury car market, one that has less to do with outright performance and more to do with the making the most beautiful sports cars in the world. That's a very subjective statement, but that is where they are at. Performance figures, whilst a useful gauge as to where they sit for those that base purchase decisions on such data, are routinely ignored by the customer (certainly in my case) as there are, quite simply, better dynamic vehicles to be had for a fraction of the cost. So, individuals, for whatever reason, make specific choices and defend them vehemently. We are only human after all. That is all.

L0TT0

2,465 posts

153 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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divetheworld said:
If you "get" what an Aston does better than any other car, then you stop comparing specs and figures etc.
If you don't, then you go off and scratch a different itch.
Exotic cars are an emotional choice. We don't compare boot space, sat-navs and 0-60.

If I'm thirsty then I can drink water, so why do I buy rare plonk?
Why would your face ache if you tried to explain why your missus is better than mine?
Figure that out and you find that no one cares what's 'better' or worse. We just enjoy what makes us smile and respect the other guy who went a different way.
No knob comparison required. wink
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ end of.....

V8Andrew

387 posts

163 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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TKP said:
I fully agree with you, but the early 4.7 look 99% the same as the 4.3. No big diffusors, no side skirts. I looked at a 2009 and a 2011 or 2012 4.7 and the looks of the 2009 did suit me better.
The only major difference in styling is I believe the side skirts and the front grill. I agree not too much addenda, but personally I prefer without the fussy side skirts. The newer grill is actually ok. I wonder in 30 years time how the design will be considered. My feeling is that like E type jags and lambo countach, you want an early one as the design is pure.

I agree with all that has been said here about there being faster cars, or objectively better cars. Before buying mine I'd driven an R8, Gallardo, 911 (997 2S), DB9, GTR. Most if not all were quicker, some significantly. We owned a 997 2S for some time and they are very good cars by every objective measure. We sold it largely because it got driven less frequently than the Aston as it had less sense of occasion.

I've fixed my sat Nav so I can use my phone specifically google maps see link
https://youtu.be/XdKd-FZGafo

JohnG1

3,472 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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shunt said:
I've recently swapped my old 4.3 V8V for a V8 F Type. Much berated on here but I haven't looked back, I get the whole Aston thing but I've done more miles in 2 months than I did in 2 years in the Aston Martin.

It's such a better car than an early Vantage. Sorry chaps but if you haven't driven a V8 F Type then you can't really comment.
Why on earth should the fact or otherwise of my driving an F-type mean I "can't really comment"?

I've never eaten buffalo testicle but I am confident I don't want to. I managed to comment on that alright and I think I can comment that I wouldn't want an F-type.

"better car than an early Vantage" - well, it's newer and has more gadgets. If that's what you like then great, good for you, but don't let's try and restrict uninformed comment on here, that's a good 50% of the fun.

Oh, that and someone called Tony who predictable grumbles about a certain independent garage. I think it's unrequited love that's the problem...

L0TT0

2,465 posts

153 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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JohnG1 said:
...............
Oh, that and someone called Tony who predictable grumbles about a certain independent garage. I think it's unrequited love that's the problem...
roflroflrofl

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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dont grumble....i merely point out....

JohnG1

3,472 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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tonyhall38 said:
dont grumble....i merely point out....
Let's go for pantomime...

OH YES YOU DO