Vantage AMR

[IanV12VR]

PJDV8 said:

Spotted this from Aston Martin Works on Facebook this morning.

Some interesting additional lime accents that they've applied to a V12VAMR in Halo with full aero.

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What do you think of the way the rear spoiler is fitted. Whereas the GT8 is flat and looks purposeful the AMR rear wing appears to be bowed upwards at the edges? Is that what it is like in real life or just a trick of the lighting in the picture. First noticed it in the picture of the V8 AMR for sale but this looks the same. Looks strange to me.

[Jon39]

PJDV8 said:

Some interesting additional lime accents that they've applied to a V12VAMR in Halo with full aero.

Perhaps I am old fashioned, but do you think this can be overdone?

Where do you stop?
Maybe every other wheel spoke, highlighted in lime accents would be worth trying.

[PJDV8]

Jon39 said:

Perhaps I am old fashioned, but do you think this can be overdone?

Where do you stop?
Maybe every other wheel spoke, highlighted in lime accents would be worth trying.

It's all about personal taste as we often repeat on here, but for me I like the lipstick and side strakes but would probably have left the skirts, diffuser and wing mirrors alone. I'm undecided on the end plates of the wing but think I'm quite liking them.

[Imtiazsyed69]

Just be told that my orange aston calipers will be replaced with Brembo next week

[Crf7]

I quite like the lime accents on that car, was thinking of having some done myself. Maybe mirrors and grill surround. And the spoiler edges if I go for the performance pack at a later date.
Had a call yesterday to say mine is ready to leave the factory so delivery imminent :-)

I like the white/orange convertible - nice colour choice!

[jonby]

Jon39 said:

PJDV8 said:

Some interesting additional lime accents that they've applied to a V12VAMR in Halo with full aero.

Perhaps I am old fashioned, but do you think this can be overdone?

Where do you stop?
Maybe every other wheel spoke, highlighted in lime accents would be worth trying.

Interesting question and interesting car

Obviously it's personal taste and as I have added some lime, but less than the car featured above, of course I think this car has gone slightly beyond what I would deem perfect but it is so personal, that's really all it is. Others can judge what they think of mine when it's complete ! I also am not a big fan of leaving the CF sills completely unpainted - with one or two exceptions (Adam's kermit comes to mind), I much prefer them to be painted and just leave the narrow section in exposed CF

There are actually more options than you might first think for adding colour. For example on the front grille, there is lipstick (which this car does not have - lipstick is the bit on the main body of the car immediately surrounding the grille), there are the uprights within the grille which this car has not had painted, but the factory (non-Q) option is to paint just the inner section of the CF including the uprights but not the front/leading edge (like the stratus car on the previous page of this thread), whereas this car has the outer & inner CF painted including the leading edge, but not the uprights

This car is interesting for other reasons too. It's been featured over the last few weeks on the owner's instagram feed. https://www.instagram.com/andrewbaileyaktiv/

He refers to it as the prototype car in his feed. I assume that means it's the demo car that was presented to the public at Le Mans and used for some Aston photo shoots. If so, it's easily identifiable as it has a copper tan handbrake cover rather than the standard black. That car was sporting a 1 of 100 plaque - I wonder if it still does and if so, I wonder if it is indeed part of the 100 - I had assumed it was in addition to the production run, though never asked

It is still sporting the factory owned V12AML plate in the latest photo - that further ties in with my suggestion it might be the original demonstrator as that was sporting this plate, although I assume the factory haven't sold that plate with the car.

The additional lime paint has been done in house by Works, not Q/the factory (I appreciate Works is effectively the factory).
https://www.instagram.com/astonmartinworks/

They state they have added lime essence in the text accompanying the photo, but I assume they have actually added AMR lime which I understand is marginally different, lime essence being the colour they launched with new vantage

I do realise btw I'm a pedant and a complete anorak ! Not proud.....

[jonby]

Imtiazsyed69 said:

Just be told that my orange aston calipers will be replaced with Brembo next week

good news !

[Gettoff]

Jon39 said:

Perhaps I am old fashioned, but do you think this can be overdone?

Where do you stop?
Maybe every other wheel spoke, highlighted in lime accents would be worth trying.

It's strange really, in the other thread about the new Vantage almost to a person everyone is extolling the virtues of the 'old' Vantage . Not a bad angle in site, understated beauty, elegant design, classic grille etc. etc. all been mentioned...

Yet this looks plain tacky and has taken a massive beating with the Halfords stick. Odd.

[jonby]

Gettoff said:

It's strange really, in the other thread about the new Vantage almost to a person everyone is extolling the virtues of the 'old' Vantage . Not a bad angle in site, understated beauty, elegant design, classic grille etc. etc. all been mentioned...

Yet this looks plain tacky and has taken a massive beating with the Halfords stick. Odd.

I had really mixed feeling selling my relatively conservative V12VR (ceramic, lords red, some Q) for my incoming halo AMR. I love the look of my new scheme, but I also love the more conservative look of my outgoing car. IMO, the outgoing shape lends itself incredibly well to both types of scheme - I'd have loved to be able to afford both. I can very much understand those who will say they preferred the look of my outgoing car, as I'm sure will be the case with some of my friends who will not like the shouty side of Halo. All I can say is that for AMR cars, I think it makes sense to not be conservative, as otherwise how is it an AMR car ? On the other vantages, it's back down to personal preference

[Gettoff]

jonby said:

All I can say is that for AMR cars, I think it makes sense to not be conservative, as otherwise how is it an AMR car ? On the other vantages, it's back down to personal preference

Fair enough, but this leads into a slightly different topic of why AMR even exists as a brand/thing for road cars. Same as the recent specials that have been alluded to in other current threads, but it's new territory really for AM, clearly making a grab for a slice of the 'overs' market that's been around for the last few years. I don't blame them either, they should try and earn as much as possible from what they have available to them, but the execution in this instance leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

[jonby]

Gettoff said:

jonby said:

All I can say is that for AMR cars, I think it makes sense to not be conservative, as otherwise how is it an AMR car ? On the other vantages, it's back down to personal preference

Fair enough, but this leads into a slightly different topic of why AMR even exists as a brand/thing for road cars. Same as the recent specials that have been alluded to in other current threads, but it's new territory really for AM, clearly making a grab for a slice of the 'overs' market that's been around for the last few years. I don't blame them either, they should try and earn as much as possible from what they have available to them, but the execution in this instance leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

Not sure that's entirely fair. AMR exists because more than any other manufacturer, Aston have an incredibly strong visible link between their road cars/engines & their WEC entries. To have an AMR sub brand makes a lot of sense. To have badged GT8 & GT12 as AMR would have been perfect, if AMR had existed then. AMR makes a huge amount of sense for the track only variant of Valkyrie and Vantage Pro

I agree that in this instance, it's not perfect, but that's mainly because the performance is not boosted over the donor car, so it's too watered down, rather than too OTT. IMHO. The latest specific car in the thread is a little different of course with the bodykit and dealer enhanced graphics

[Gettoff]

jonby said:

Not sure that's entirely fair. AMR exists because more than any other manufacturer, Aston have an incredibly strong visible link between their road cars/engines & their WEC entries. To have an AMR sub brand makes a lot of sense. To have badged GT8 & GT12 as AMR would have been perfect, if AMR had existed then. AMR makes a huge amount of sense for the track only variant of Valkyrie and Vantage Pro

I agree that in this instance, it's not perfect, but that's mainly because the performance is not boosted over the donor car, so it's too watered down, rather than too OTT. IMHO. The latest specific car in the thread is a little different of course with the bodykit and dealer enhanced graphics

Agree with regard to the track stuff like Valkyrie etc. but for the latest V8 and V12 Vantage it's just carbon trinkets and go-faster stripes for no discernible benefit. Anything mechanical like power kit or exhaust is available to fit to any car as far as I can see, but without the need to have your car looking like it was coloured in by a 7 year old

[LordBretSinclair]

Gettoff said:

Yet this looks plain tacky and has taken a massive beating with the Halfords stick. Odd.

I agree Jeff. Personally I think a big rear wing on any road going Aston looks naff, including IMHO the GT8 and GT12 - too reminiscent of old Lambos

[IanV12VR]

Gettoff said:

Agree with regard to the track stuff like Valkyrie etc. but for the latest V8 and V12 Vantage it's just carbon trinkets and go-faster stripes for no discernible benefit. Anything mechanical like power kit or exhaust is available to fit to any car as far as I can see, but without the need to have your car looking like it was coloured in by a 7 year old

What Geoff, you mean something like this




That wings gives great downforce sorry, picture taken on an iPad and can’t change.

[Jon39]

jonby said:

I can very much understand those who will say they preferred the look of my outgoing car, as I'm sure will be the case with some of my friends who will not like the shouty side of Halo.

All I can say is that for AMR cars, I think it makes sense to not be conservative, as otherwise how is it an AMR car ?

I agree with you Jonby.

Your last point was certainly confirmed to me recently, when I was looking at what I identified as, a white V8VSR.
However, I did wonder why someone would choose to have an orange stripe on their Roadster.

Only when I studied the dealer description card, did I realised that the car is an AMR V8 Roadster.
The AMR Coupes with wings can be easily identified at a glance (particularly when in the ARM racing colours), but I don't know whether a rear wing would look good on a Roadster.

[AdamV8V]

Imtiazsyed69 said:

Hi Imtiaz - can I assume the flash was on for this photo?!

I have the same interior colour scheme and in the pics I was sent the blue is somewhat less 'electric'!

[IanV12VR]

Will you get it this year Adam? Looks well on its way

[silverspeed]

IanV12VR said:

What do you think of the way the rear spoiler is fitted. Whereas the GT8 is flat and looks purposeful the AMR rear wing appears to be bowed upwards at the edges? Is that what it is like in real life or just a trick of the lighting in the picture. First noticed it in the picture of the V8 AMR for sale but this looks the same. Looks strange to me.

I like what they have done with the graphics pack on the car but to me the rear wing sits too high and I agree the bowed design is ‘ interesting ‘ . Perhaps Aston are concerned about upsetting GT12/8 customers by putting that wing on ( although it might be too wide for the narrow bodied cars) ) .

With regards to the Wings badges it was posted that DB9 had green insert Wings badges . DB9 GT BE had black inserts which would tally with black insert badges being allocated to ‘Performance’ versions of standard Cars ?

Edited by silverspeed on Wednesday 20th December 20:33

[AdamV12V]

silverspeed said:

IanV12VR said:

What do you think of the way the rear spoiler is fitted. Whereas the GT8 is flat and looks purposeful the AMR rear wing appears to be bowed upwards at the edges? Is that what it is like in real life or just a trick of the lighting in the picture. First noticed it in the picture of the V8 AMR for sale but this looks the same. Looks strange to me.

I like what they have done with the graphics pack on the car but to me the rear wing sits too high and I agree the bowed design is ‘ interesting ‘ . Perhaps Aston are concerned about updetying GT12/8 customers by putting that wing on ( although it might be too wide for the narrow bodied cars) ) .

The wing is slightly curved but in real life it is barely noticeable. It is a bit like the new big grille on the new Vantage, which looks nowhere near as big (or bowed) in real life and looks just right.

I don't think the AMR wing size has anything to do with not upsetting GT8/12 customers - the AMR Aerokit IS THE existing GT4 race car Aero - not similar, its identical (just finished to a retail standard), so it was never meant to be either a GT8 or a GT12 wing, it IS a GT4 wing.

I am also 99% sure it is the same wing as they used on the V12 Vantage Zagato, albeit the V12 Zag had different struts mounting the wing because of the completely different angle of the tailgate.

[magarnett]

Adam

your analysis is spot on as i understand it also.

Cheers

M