Discussion
AdamV12V said:
Interesting - how much is Project 8 going to be?
Re your spec - as above feedback really that the rear enviro leather is well worth having at £395
I can perhaps help with 3 of the 4 items you are waiting for prices on:
Project 8 starting price £150k + so will be nudging £200k once a few options are chosen,Re your spec - as above feedback really that the rear enviro leather is well worth having at £395
I can perhaps help with 3 of the 4 items you are waiting for prices on:
- Carbon roof panel - £5995 (on GT8/GT12)
- Carbon Tail gate panel - £1995 (on GT8/GT12) (includes the infills - so a relative bargain really!)
- GT12 Door cards
- Roll cage - AMR accessory price is £3,995 +VAT + fitting.
Thanks for the price information, I think these would look great cosmetic additions but with list price heading towards £215k might be stretching things a little to far?
AdamV12V said:
What are you defining as the "fastest"? The V12VS has been stated as the fastest production road car AM make, and does 0-60 in 3.7 sec with 205mph top speed but then along came the GT12 which does 0-60 in 3.5 secs due to 100kg less weight and more power. The GT12 however only does 185mph top speed due to the aero drag, so which is the "fastest" V12VS or GT12?
AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.
Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.
So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.
Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.
Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.
Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, so I take it the GT12 wasn't available with a manual gearbox?AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.
Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.
So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.
Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.
Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.
Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.
Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 14:40
AdamV12V said:
What are you defining as the "fastest"? The V12VS has been stated as the fastest production road car AM make, and does 0-60 in 3.7 sec with 205mph top speed but then along came the GT12 which does 0-60 in 3.5 secs due to 100kg less weight and more power. The GT12 however only does 185mph top speed due to the aero drag, so which is the "fastest" V12VS or GT12?
AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.
Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.
So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.
Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.
Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.
Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.
Thanks for the comprehensive reply,so I take it that the GT12 wasn't available as a manual?AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.
Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.
So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.
Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.
Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.
Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.
Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 14:40
AdamV12V said:
It was made pretty clear to me that there was no Q customisation possible with the Halo spec, so I'm not sure you could have the carbon roof at all with Halo, as that would most certainly be Q.
Sorry I meant to add this to my earlier comments.
What is the reason for no Q additions with the Halo spec?Sorry I meant to add this to my earlier comments.
AdamV12V said:
I'm not sure but its very clearly documented in the spec sheets Halo = no Q customisation. I think the idea is that Halo is their ultimate spec and is "perfect" as it is, so you can not tinker with it.
I guess there is nothing stopping you from starting from one of the other spec's however then effectively turning it back into a Halo spec car plus a CF roof via Q - but it would most likely cost you far more than the £6495 they charge for Halo, just to match the Halo, then everything else is on top via Q.
AM and Q pricing works in mysterious ways, so you just have to go with the flow and make the best of it for what you want...
Thanks for the information......My dealer has put the request in so I'll see what comes back.I guess there is nothing stopping you from starting from one of the other spec's however then effectively turning it back into a Halo spec car plus a CF roof via Q - but it would most likely cost you far more than the £6495 they charge for Halo, just to match the Halo, then everything else is on top via Q.
AM and Q pricing works in mysterious ways, so you just have to go with the flow and make the best of it for what you want...
Derek007 said:
AdamV12V said:
I'm not sure but its very clearly documented in the spec sheets Halo = no Q customisation. I think the idea is that Halo is their ultimate spec and is "perfect" as it is, so you can not tinker with it.
I guess there is nothing stopping you from starting from one of the other spec's however then effectively turning it back into a Halo spec car plus a CF roof via Q - but it would most likely cost you far more than the £6495 they charge for Halo, just to match the Halo, then everything else is on top via Q.
AM and Q pricing works in mysterious ways, so you just have to go with the flow and make the best of it for what you want...
Thanks for the information......My dealer has put the request in so I'll see what comes back.I guess there is nothing stopping you from starting from one of the other spec's however then effectively turning it back into a Halo spec car plus a CF roof via Q - but it would most likely cost you far more than the £6495 they charge for Halo, just to match the Halo, then everything else is on top via Q.
AM and Q pricing works in mysterious ways, so you just have to go with the flow and make the best of it for what you want...
kizzz said:
I have just locked in my spec for the AMR. Gone for the Halo with Aero + Wheels + Ti Exhaust.
What has everyone else gone for?
Gone for belowWhat has everyone else gone for?
Halo pack……………………………………… 6,495.00
Carbon mirror caps………………………. 995.00
Carbon rear light in-fills……………….. 995.00
Carbon/painted front grille…………. 695.00
Lightweight seats………………………… 2,495.00
Auto-dimming mirror………………….. 195.00
Aluminium filler cap…………………….. 195.00
Assortment pack…………………………. 1,695.00
Glass switches
Reversing Camera
Front park sensors
2nd Glass Key
AM Tracking system……………………. 695.00
Total…………………………… £ 166,645.00
Accessories…,
AMR Full body pack (Aerokit and Wheels)……………… 18,990.00
Fitting………………………………………………………………………. 1,215.00
Titanium Exhaust…………………………………………………….. 10,794.00
Fitting………………………………………………………………………. 425.00
Total……………………………. £ 31,424.00
Considering the below
Carbon roof panel..
Carbon Tail gate panel
GT12 Door cards
Roll cage
I may stick with the lightweight wheels as they show the brake calipers off much better than the AMR wheel....any thoughts?
[quote=vince1972]AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manuel // Scintilla & Ceramic
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manuel // Q - TBC
CheckSix: V12 // Coupe // Manuel // Q Red & Gold
RobD: V12 // Roadster // Manuel // halo
Vince1972: V12 // Coupe // Manuel // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special
Derek V12 // Coupe // Manuel // Q TBC Halo
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manuel // Q - TBC
CheckSix: V12 // Coupe // Manuel // Q Red & Gold
RobD: V12 // Roadster // Manuel // halo
Vince1972: V12 // Coupe // Manuel // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special
Derek V12 // Coupe // Manuel // Q TBC Halo
PJDV8 said:
mafisher]obDown said:
AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
CheckSix: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q Red & Gold
RobD: V12 // Roadster // Manual // halo
Vince1972: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special
Derek V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q TBC Halo
IanV12VR: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
NeinFondue V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC Scintilla & Ceramic
Kizzz: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Halo
Silverspeed:V12//Roadster//Manual//Q - TBC
magarnett//V12//Coupe//Manual//Halo
Stratstone2//v12//coupe/SS3//Halo
Mafisher//v12//coupe//manual//ultramarine
PJDV8//V8//Coupe//Sportshift//Halo
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
CheckSix: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q Red & Gold
RobD: V12 // Roadster // Manual // halo
Vince1972: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special
Derek V12 // Coupe // Manual // Q TBC Halo
IanV12VR: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC
NeinFondue V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC Scintilla & Ceramic
Kizzz: V12 // Coupe // Manual // Halo
Silverspeed:V12//Roadster//Manual//Q - TBC
magarnett//V12//Coupe//Manual//Halo
Stratstone2//v12//coupe/SS3//Halo
Mafisher//v12//coupe//manual//ultramarine
PJDV8//V8//Coupe//Sportshift//Halo
If so what Q options have you gone for?
Drive the car and enjoy it.I just brought GT8 £50k under list done 120 miles from a man pig sick as he thought he was going to make 50k profit! Looking forward to my V12AMR which will probably lose another £50k in 12 months especially when it’s done 5k...only difference is it won’t be for sale!
GT8 is a fantastic car not just to look at but also to drive. Not the fastest but provides a real sense of occasion, beautifully balanced and the sound of the engine is sensational. The V12 AMR might not look as dramatic but the 600BHP is a different level and provides a much faster but equally involving drive. Future values will be dictated by supply and demand. Both cars are very special and should be driven and enjoyed.
mafisher said:
kizzz said:
NeinFondue said:
IanV12VR said:
AdamV12AMR said:
Could be worth updating "The List" with build / delivery status?
As far as I'm aware...
V12 Coupe:
Stratstone2: SS3 // Halo - ?
Derek: Manual // Q TBC Halo - BUILD SLATED 01/0218
Kizzz: Manual // Halo - DELIVERED
magarnett: Manual // Halo - DELIVERED
D123: Manual // Halo - DELIVERED
Crf7: Manual // Halo - BUILT. AWAITING COLLECTION
CheckSix: Manual // Q Red & Gold - ?
Vince1972: Manual // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special - DELIVERED
Mafisher: Manual // Ultramarine ARRIVED COLLECTION NEXT WEEK
V12 Roadster:
RobD: Manual // Halo - ?
AdamV8V: Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic - DELIVERED
NeinFondue: Manual // Q - TBC Scintilla & Ceramic - BUILD SLATED 16/2/18
IanV12VR: Manual // Q - Zaffre & Kaminski Yellow - BUILD SLATED 12/2/18
Silverspeed: Manual // Q - Zaffre & Orange - BUILD SLATED 1/3/18
Jonby: Manual // Q - Halo - BUILD SLATED ?/?/18
Madcal: Manual // Ultramarine - ?
Imtiazsyed69: Manual //Stratus White & Orange - DELIVERED
Updated tooAs far as I'm aware...
V12 Coupe:
Stratstone2: SS3 // Halo - ?
Derek: Manual // Q TBC Halo - BUILD SLATED 01/0218
Kizzz: Manual // Halo - DELIVERED
magarnett: Manual // Halo - DELIVERED
D123: Manual // Halo - DELIVERED
Crf7: Manual // Halo - BUILT. AWAITING COLLECTION
CheckSix: Manual // Q Red & Gold - ?
Vince1972: Manual // Scintilla Silver Paint Q Special - DELIVERED
Mafisher: Manual // Ultramarine ARRIVED COLLECTION NEXT WEEK
V12 Roadster:
RobD: Manual // Halo - ?
AdamV8V: Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic - DELIVERED
NeinFondue: Manual // Q - TBC Scintilla & Ceramic - BUILD SLATED 16/2/18
IanV12VR: Manual // Q - Zaffre & Kaminski Yellow - BUILD SLATED 12/2/18
Silverspeed: Manual // Q - Zaffre & Orange - BUILD SLATED 1/3/18
Jonby: Manual // Q - Halo - BUILD SLATED ?/?/18
Madcal: Manual // Ultramarine - ?
Imtiazsyed69: Manual //Stratus White & Orange - DELIVERED
silverspeed said:
Brilliant - it’s a really special experience going to Gaydon to see your car in build and for last of line Vantage must be ever more so . How many days until it’s through production ? Were there many AMRs on the line - understand Vanquish is on same line too? Not long now until it arrives !
My AMR should be complete early next week. Quite a few AMRs and Vanquish on the same line and a number of new Vantages at final stage being prepared as press cars. Love the look from the side and rear but I’m still not sure about the front, looks a little to plain and lacks the drama of the rest of the car IMO. Towards the end of the production line there were four Vantage’s that were still in primer which seemed odd as all the other cars were painted.Gassing Station | Aston Martin | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff