Vantage AMR

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alscar

4,137 posts

213 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Perhaps someone slighly vertically challenged can also respond and that way we've covered all the height bases to help answer although Upper's reply is obviously the best one.

Jon39

12,830 posts

143 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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The original centre console obviously means an unusual higher elbow stance (for the manual gearchange), but I quickly became used to that.

My car came without the elbow pad in the 'drinks holder', but coincidentally, I often place a camera case there, which happens to be a perfect fit.

I have not seen the newer low-line centre console, but perhaps a gain in left (or overseas right) arm comfort, is offset by a less practical storage box. All a balance of preference maybe.








steveway

894 posts

84 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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the high centre console does get some getting use to, but with the torque of the V12 you don't need to change gear that often, unless some spirited driving is the order of the day

alscar

4,137 posts

213 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Shameless pic of low console.

CheckSix

89 posts

110 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Since we are getting technical with our terminology perhaps I should qualify that I am 172cm (nonlanky git variety) and will order light weight seats which will presumably sit lower?

There's no cars with that option around me to test...


Upperworks

1,242 posts

152 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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CheckSix said:
Since we are getting technical with our terminology perhaps I should qualify that I am 172cm (nonlanky git variety) and will order light weight seats which will presumably sit lower?

There's no cars with that option around me to test...
I think we're all referencing with lightweight seats.

As you'll have the seat further forward than me, you wont get the main issue I find with the low line. Like I said, as in the pic above I rest the tip of my elbow about 2cm behind the front edge and it's a bit annoying.

AdamV12V

5,028 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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CheckSix said:
Anyhow, who's ordering the low console? And
Is it really better for the manual?

Where do you put your phone for the Apple car play ? As it has to be physically connected and non of the plus versions fit!
Lowline has a huge open storage area where the USB ports are located, so definitely large enough for any iPhone Plus model. To be honest, I think Apple car play is hugely over rated, but I'm sure Apple fans will disagree with me on that.

I think the highline looks a bit nicer (and I have the lowline now on my V12VSM) and its nice to have the storage box with a lid to keep things out of sight but the lowline does have benefits, one of which is being £595 cheaper!

Trimmed up with matching stitching as Alscar has done, the lowline is almost certainly the best choice. Just wish I had thought to ask Q for that myself!


Edited by AdamV12V on Wednesday 9th August 12:14

Flugplatz

1,952 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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AdamV12V said:
Trimmed up with matching stitching as Alscar has done, the lowline is almost certainly the best choice. Just wish I had thought to ask Q for that myself!
Im sure any trimmer could replicate that for about 20% of Q cost.

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

126 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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alscar said:
Perhaps someone slighly vertically challenged can also respond and that way we've covered all the height bases to help answer although Upper's reply is obviously the best one.
It's obviously all very individual but I am 5 foot 7 inches (170cm), have the high console in my manual SP10 and have Lightweight seats as low as they will go (of course) and it's absolutely fine. So long since I drove a low console car that I can't really offer a direct comparison of which I find more comfortable but if I were speccing a new car I would go high console because I have no issues with it AND it is more practical as previously stated.

NeinFondue

860 posts

156 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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I’m 6 foot tall, and have experienced both consoles in cars with lightweight seats and can confirm that I personally prefer the high line console. When testing a car with the low line, my arm felt like it was just hanging (no support).. So my car has been ordered with the high line.

AdamV8V

1,380 posts

156 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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RobDown said:
May make it easy to organise a register smile
Should we start an initial one here? Just to see which PHers have an AMR on-order and what spec they've gone for?

I don't think we need to go too deep into options / Q etc, so suggest a simple format of:

PH Handle: Engine // Body style // Transmission // Exterior Scheme

Feel free to put TBC for exterior if you have something secret or exciting planned!

I'll kick us off below

Like with event sign-ups etc, people can just 'quote' the list and repost by adding themselves at the bottom.

I'd surprised if we get more than 10... biggrin

AdamV8V

1,380 posts

156 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic
Jonby: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Q - TBC

I think there will be more than 10 Adam :-)

Jon39

12,830 posts

143 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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AdamV12V said:
I think the highline looks a bit nicer (and I have the lowline now on my V12VSM) and its nice to have the storage box with a lid to keep things out of sight but the lowline does have benefits, one of which is being £595 cheaper!

£595 cheaper!

Is the central console, yet another item that is now a cost option, Adam, whereas it used to just be part of the car?
If so, what happens if no option is selected. Do you just get an empty space? Plenty of elbow room then.







mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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AdamV8V said:
AdamV8V: V12 // Roadster // Manual // Scintilla & Ceramic
Question is are you calling this VAJ V2? wink

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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Jon39 said:
AdamV12V said:
I think the highline looks a bit nicer (and I have the lowline now on my V12VSM) and its nice to have the storage box with a lid to keep things out of sight but the lowline does have benefits, one of which is being £595 cheaper!

£595 cheaper!

Is the central console, yet another item that is now a cost option, Adam, whereas it used to just be part of the car?
If so, what happens if no option is selected. Do you just get an empty space? Plenty of elbow room then.
it's 695 not 595 and you need to buy the armrest pad on top so it's actually over £800........... but yes you are right mikey

tracker is an 'option' now too (£700)

so is a metal fuel cap

so basically not far off £2k just to reinstate previously standard items........

matrignano

4,376 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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I really don't mean to be confrontational on this, and I'm sure future AMR owners have made a great choice,
BUT
what does the AMR package offer on top of a standard V8S or V12S, other than access to exclusive interior and exterior halo schemes, and some carbons bits?
Looks like all the performance upgrades are optional items, and can be specified to "standard" Vantages anyway, so I really fail to see the exclusivity.
Are they limited in supply?
Or a cynical ploy to get rid of the last few build slots before the new Vantage comes in?


jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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matrignano said:
I really don't mean to be confrontational on this, and I'm sure future AMR owners have made a great choice,
BUT
what does the AMR package offer on top of a standard V8S or V12S, other than access to exclusive interior and exterior halo schemes, and some carbons bits?
Looks like all the performance upgrades are optional items, and can be specified to "standard" Vantages anyway, so I really fail to see the exclusivity.
Are they limited in supply?
Or a cynical ploy to get rid of the last few build slots before the new Vantage comes in?
In my eyes (and I'm a buyer), it's primarily a final edition Vantage with a different name. Final edition Astons are ALWAYS incredibly popular and hold their value very well indeed.

The cars are very well specced trimwise, for a relatively modest premium

In the instance of the V12, it's the only chance there has or will be to buy a 595bhp vantage with a manual box, which should carry an awful lot of prestige (and arguably future value) over and above a V12VS with a performance power pack

And yes, limited to 100 V12s and 200 V8s

The AMR connection, for me personally, is not actually a big deal at all however, assuming AMR takes off as a sub brand, then as the first production series AMR car that will hold it in good stead

AdamV12V

5,028 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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jonby said:
Jon39 said:
AdamV12V said:
I think the highline looks a bit nicer (and I have the lowline now on my V12VSM) and its nice to have the storage box with a lid to keep things out of sight but the lowline does have benefits, one of which is being £595 cheaper!

£595 cheaper!

Is the central console, yet another item that is now a cost option, Adam, whereas it used to just be part of the car?
If so, what happens if no option is selected. Do you just get an empty space? Plenty of elbow room then.
it's 695 not 595 and you need to buy the armrest pad on top so it's actually over £800........... but yes you are right mikey

tracker is an 'option' now too (£700)

so is a metal fuel cap

so basically not far off £2k just to reinstate previously standard items........
Opps, sorry £695.

This has been discussed many times before - the basic price of the car has not materially changed for many years, so AM like many other manufacturers have just chosen to buy into Shrinkflation to protect their margins.

Shrinkflation is the new way of the world, same price but less product than last year - BBC News: More than 2,500 products subject to shrinkflation, says ONS



jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th August 2017
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AdamV12V said:
This has been discussed many times before - the basic price of the car has not materially changed for many years, so AM like many other manufacturers have just chosen to buy into Shrinkflation to protect their margins.
lots of merit in that argument Adam, although harder to swallow when there are now fewer discounts now so real world price has not stayed as static as it might first look, plus there are other areas too (cheaper leather, rear environment carpet, wing badges off the engine, etc) all of which together simply make the car feel/look cheaper. I think to time all of that with the fact it's getting towards the end of life of the car is poor. Tracker is surely essential, which makes it a hidden cost/tax rather than a true option. The better leather is close to essential.